Concordia timeline is full of, well something

[Milaandra]

He, meaning....Captain Basio or Schettino?

 

Sorry for the delay...I haven't checked this thread for a while.

 

He meaning Basio started evacuations 10 or so minutes before the abandon ship was sounded. Another officer and machinist did the same thing. I don't know if they were together or separate.

 

People are misinterpreting the reports and saying Basio sounded the alarm.

[Linda VH]

It was just in the paper this morning that the Captain told the cruise line that there was a problem. He didn't tell them what really happened. Saw survivors on the Dr. Phil show yesterday. They had nothing good to say about the captain or officers as they never saw any officers. They were physically ejected from a lifeboat because there was no abandon ship announcement. Horrible!

[baldercash]

This a very clear timeline of what transpired with graphics showing were the ship was and were it ended up.

 

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/20/graphic-the-final-moments-of-the-costa-concordia/



[GatorMomInNC]

Here's a discussion about this:

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1551817

 

Thank you!

[TheBestIsYetToCome]

Sorry for the delay...I haven't checked this thread for a while.

 

He meaning Basio started evacuations 10 or so minutes before the abandon ship was sounded. Another officer and machinist did the same thing. I don't know if they were together or separate.

 

People are misinterpreting the reports and saying Basio sounded the alarm.

 

What's the difference between "filling the lifeboats"/"starting evacuations" and "abandoning ship?".If he started the evacuations by filling the lifeboats, then they were abandoning the ship.

[tinlizzy]

What's the difference between "filling the lifeboats"/"starting evacuations" and "abandoning ship?".If he started the evacuations by filling the lifeboats, then they were abandoning the ship.

 

I believe I read that declaring abandon ship gives other agencies or authorities the right to help or in this case completely take over because of the lack of leadership from Captain Schettino.

 

From all the accounts it sounds as though filling the lifeboats and starting evacuation was mutiny so to speak by others who had more common sense, namely the off duty Captain Bosio.

[SeaDog-46]

Fury 1995 - After 15 years in command - this is my opinion.

The time line you have put together is the best we can hope for before the inquiry.

There are a few things that are not being taken into account by newspapers & others.

 

At the time of collision the ship was turning away from the shore & collected the rocks aft of the stabilizer.

The force of water entering the engine room causes the electric drive motors & generators to expire.

This causes the POWER all through the ship to go out.

There is NO - engine drive, steering, thrusters, fans / AC, lifts - NOTHING.

The emergency generator automatically starts up & supplies some lighting only.

Bridge communication equipment & PA are supplied by batteries.

The ship slows down & one officer suggests dropping the anchor which is done.

 

This hypothesis is backed up by the statement of a RC Father who was onboard & evidence from a bridge officer.

 

Other things we know -

The close pass was a planned operation.

The master - Schettino had dinner & at least one drink of wine PRIOR to the island approach with an ex Costa employee who was a passenger & or girlfriend of one of the officers.

Schettino took the steering out of auto & did the steering himself - evidence of bridge officer.

First Officer sent to inspect Engine Room - reported flooding.

The captain was on the phone & gave NO orders to prepare or abandon ship.

Passenger Roberto Bosio - Costa Master - was on bridge to assist.

Urged by some officers to start evacuation - he does so with assistance of some others.

 

What is not known is how, when & who gave the abandon ship order.

What time 1st boat left & last able to do so.

How many boats got away - there are a few still on port side.

 

What should have been done by a PROPER MASTER -

After finding ER flooding - Em. Muster sounded, Mayday signal - prepare boats.

When SHIP had stopped - commence evacuation.

 

IN THIS DAY & AGE THIS SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.

COSTA WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY IT DID.

[Aus Traveller]

What should have been done by a PROPER MASTER -

After finding ER flooding - Em. Muster sounded, Mayday signal - prepare boats.

When SHIP had stopped - commence evacuation.

 

IN THIS DAY & AGE THIS SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.

COSTA WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY IT DID.

Thank you for your post. You have summed up (as far as we know it) what happened, and WHAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED to save lives and the terrible trauma that happened to many who survived.

[Milaandra]

What's the difference between "filling the lifeboats"/"starting evacuations" and "abandoning ship?".If he started the evacuations by filling the lifeboats, then they were abandoning the ship.

 

Sounding the abandon ship signal. The official abandon ship order. People have been saying that Schettino didn't make it, it was Basio, but that's incorrect. Basio and another officer, who were at one or more muster stations (the articles weren't specific about whether the two were together) started loading passengers 8 minutes before the official abandon ship was ordered.

 

Not the same thing at all.

[Milaandra]

Passenger Roberto Bosio - Costa Master - was on bridge to assist.

Urged by some officers to start evacuation - he does so with assistance of some others.

 

What is not known is how, when & who gave the abandon ship order.

What time 1st boat left & last able to do so.

 

The first lifeboat is reported to have arrived at the dock at 11:15.

 

As Bosio was quoted in the newspapers, he was in his cabin at the time of collision, he went to the muster station, telling passengers to put on their lifejackets. Eight minutes before the abandon ship was sounded, he started loading passengers into the lifeboat. I never saw anything that said he was on the bridge.

 

If you have a link, I'd like to see it.

[Milaandra]

The first lifeboat is reported to have arrived at the dock at 11:15.

 

As Bosio was quoted in the newspapers, he was in his cabin at the time of collision, he went to the muster station, telling passengers to put on their lifejackets. Eight minutes before the abandon ship was sounded, he started loading passengers into the lifeboat. I never saw anything that said he was on the bridge.

 

If you have a link, I'd like to see it.

 

Oops! The plot thickens. While I am referencing news reports, the court documents and a report from an Italian news agency about new testimony each claim that Roberto Bosio was the second-in-command and was on the bridge.

 

In which case, who is the Greek guy and what's all this stuff about Bosio being the Serena captain and being at a muster station before the abandon ship was called?

 

Is it a common name in Italy?

 

It is really confusing, but I apologize for citing sources that seem to be questionable, if not downright wrong.

[CeleBrat]

The timeline according to the HarborMasters log:

 

(link here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9030216/Costa-Concordia-Harbour-masters-log-shows-how-the-disaster-unfolded.html )

 

22.06 Carabinieri (police) at Prato contact the Harbour Master’s office. A woman has called to say her mother is on the Concordia and the dining room ceiling has fallen on her and the crew have ordered passengers to don life jackets.

 

22.14 Harbour Master contacts the Concordia asking if it is having problems. An officer replies that it’s only a blackout which has been going on for 20 minutes and which they will fix shortly. Harbour Master asks about passengers donning life jackets, but the officer insists it’s only a power cut.

 

22.16 Guardia di Finanza (finance police) patrol boat G104 is close to the island of Giglio and asks if it should check the Concordia.

 

22.17 Harbour Master informs superiors it suspects there is more wrong with the Concordia than the ship’s officer is letting on.

 

22.26 Harbour Master contacts ship’s captain, Francesco Schettino. He says the ship is taking on water through an opening on his left side and the ship is listing. He says there are no dead or injured. Harbour Master asks if he needs help. The captain requests a tug boat.

 

22.34 Harbour Master contacts the Concordia, which sends a “distress” message. They are now evacuating the 3,208 passengers and 1,023 crew members.

22.39 Guardia di Finanza patrol boat reports the ship leaning heavily to one side.

22.44 Guardia di Finanza reports the Concordia is grounded.

22.45 Schettino denies this, saying it is floating and he will try to bring her around.

22.48 Harbour Master asks the Concordia to consider abandoning ship. Answer: 'we are considering it’.

22.58 Schettino tells Harbour Master he has given order to abandon ship.

23.23 Concordia reports it has a large tear on right side.

23.37 Captain Schettino says 300 people on board.

00.10 Local authorities say there is not enough room for all evacuees on Giglio and will begin transfer to mainland.

00.12 Guardia di Finanza report lifeboats can’t be launched on left.

00.34 Schettino says he is in a lifeboat and can see three people in the water.

00.36 Guardia di Finanza can still see 70 to 80 people on board including children and the elderly.

00.38 Rescue helicopter sees many people on board and some in the water.

00.42 Schettino and all his officers are in a lifeboat. Captain De Falco [in charge of Harbour Master’s office] orders them to get back on board to coordinate evacuation.

01.04 Helicopter lowers an air force officer on board who reports 100 people still to be evacuated.

01.45 Officer confirms rope ladder strung across the hull is safe to use.

01.46 De Falco orders Schettino back on board using rope ladder.

02.29 Three people reported hanging from the prow of the ship.

02.53 Guardia di Finanza boards ship using rope ladder and that Schettino had been seen heading towards port in a lifeboat.

03.05 'Isola Del Giglio’ ferry has taken a further 300 people on top of another 300 already evacuated and will now return to Porto Santo Stefano with five injured and three dead.

03.17 Carabinieri identify Schettino on quay without detaining him.

03.44 Air force officer on board reports 40 to 50 people left to evacuate.

04.22 The number falls to 30.

04.46 Evacuation complete.

[Iluvcruising2]

What time did the ship hit the rock?

 

Was it 2130? or closer to 2200?

[Fury1995]

There are so many varied reports and accounts however there are also some actual factual data surfacing as well. According to reports and previous posts in this thread from more knowledgeable contributors (thank you). So the timeline reported isn't perfect.. butter getting more factual.

 

According to what I have read so far the ship struck an underwater rock, passengers felt a shudder and the lights flickered, correct? This happened at 9:42 local time. 3 minutes later, at 9:45 a passenger calls his parents in Tuscany who then call the Police in Prato who then call the Harbor Master/Coast Guard in Livorno who then call the ship at 10:06 and ask if everything is ok?

 

Second Radio contact, audio only:

 

 

Harbor Masters Log:

 

22.06 Carabinieri (police) at Prato contact the Harbour Master’s office. A woman has called to say her mother is on the Concordia and the dining room ceiling has fallen on her and the crew have ordered passengers to don life jackets.

 

 

confirmed

**9:42 Concordia strikes a rock.

 

confirmed

**9:45 A passenger calls her parents from the ship's dining room within 3 minutes after they struck rock.

 

confirmed

**Power has gone completely out at some point during this time period, 9:45-10:06 leaving only emergency lighting.

 

**9:42 Sometime shortly after the power goes out, crew announcements begin

 

According to the Qastor data (link below), the ship approached the island at approximately 15 kts and just prior to striking the rock, dramatically slows to 8kts and turns hard to starboard at 9:45, then slows even more dramatically apparently adrift with no power to propellers-only rudder control.

 

 

Video of Main Dining Roof, shortly after power blackout:

 

Initial Crew Announcement link:

 

 

Again, Qastor link below:

 

http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/news.qps.nl/Grounding+Costa+Concordia.wmv

 

 

UPDATED

 

confirmed

**9:42 Concordia strikes a rock.

 

confirmed

**9:45 A passenger calls her parents from the ship's dining room within 3 minutes after they struck rock.

 

confirmed

**Power has gone completely out at some point during this time period, 9:45-10:06 leaving only emergency lighting.

 

**9:49 Initial radio contact from Livorno to Concordia, allegedly occurred. Audio has not surfaced yet

 

**10:05 Schettino calls Costa Management, has one of three conversations.

 

confirmed

**10:06 Police from Prato contact the Harbor Master's office prompted by the previous phone call by a passenger to her parents earlier.

 

**10:06 Concordia dropped anchor and is halfway into hard turn to starboard

 

http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/news.qps.nl/Grounding+Costa+Concordia.wmv

 

>>>By the way, the above link indicates the ship turned to starboard to return, not port.. which is it?<<<

 

So, 10:05 Schettino calls Costa and presumably while he is on that phone call with Costa, he gets an incoming call from Coast Guard officials from Livorno on minute later, at 10:06. Schettino is at this point holding both phones and speaking to both parties, correct? He tells the Coast Guard that Concordia is suffering from electrical issues and is in a black out and does not need assistance, no mention to the Coast Guard that the hull has been breached. What is he telling Costa officials during this same exact time that he is presumably having both conversations? Also, it's been reported by the ship's engineers that they could not reach the Captain during this time period to inform him of the amount of flooding occurring from the breach because the Schettino was on his cell phone, correct?

 

Radio communication from Livorno to Concordia at 10:12:

 

 

 

Also, during this time, 30 minutes after Concordia strikes something, Port Authorities radio Concordia. There is no confirmation of timeline, just an audio recording between Port Authorities in Livorna and Concordia indicating that a crew member called relatives and informed them that they were ordered to "put on life jackets" and "dishes were crashing on his head". Concordia responds with "we are verifying the blackout" and when asked how long they have been experiencing the blackout, replies with "about 20 minutes".

 

 

UPDATED

 

confirmed

**9:42 Concordia strikes a rock.

 

confirmed

**9:45 A passenger calls her parents from the ship's dining room within 3 minutes after they struck rock.

 

**9:45-10:05 Crew ordered to put on life jackets

 

confirmed

**Power has gone completely out at some point during this time period, 9:45-10:06 leaving only emergency lighting.

 

**10:05 Schettino calls Costa Management, has one of three conversations.

 

confirmed

**10:06 Police from Prato contact the Harbor Master's office prompted by the previous phone call by a passenger to her parents earlier.

 

**10:06 Coast Guard at Livorno calls Concordia and speaks with Schettino?

 

**10:06 Concordia dropped anchor and is halfway into hard turn to starboard

 

confirmed

**10:14 Radio conversation between Port Authorites and Concordia (unidentified crew on Concordia) takes place discusses blackout only)

 

**10:26 Coast Guard in Livorno radios Concordia not a second, a third time.

 

 

If I am understanding correctly, by 10:12, a full thirty minutes after the incident, the ship has experienced a full blackout for at least 20 minutes according to the recording between the unidentified officer and Livorno (after the initial flickering of lights), has dropped anchor, is listing at least 7 degrees from taking on water, turning hard to starboard using only maneuvering thrusters moves the ship closer to land and crew has been ordered to put on life jackets. By 10:06 Schettino had initiated contact with Costa-not the any emergency authorities and the ships crew had been contacted not once but twice by Port Authorities/Coast Guard and Schettino at this point still has not admitted to needing assistance?

 

CONTINUATION

 

confirmed

**9:42 Concordia strikes a rock.

 

confirmed

**9:45 A passenger calls her parents from the ship's dining room within 3 minutes after they struck rock.

 

**9:45-10:05 Crew ordered to put on life jackets

 

confirmed

**Power has gone completely out at some point during this time period, 9:45-10:06 leaving only emergency lighting.

 

**10:05 Schettino calls Costa Management, has one of three conversations.

 

confirmed

**10:06 Police from Prato contact the Harbor Master's office prompted by the previous phone call by a passenger to her parents earlier.

 

**10:06 Coast Guard at Livorno calls Concordia and speaks with Schettino?

 

**10:06 Concordia dropped anchor and is halfway into hard turn to starboard

 

confirmed

**10:14 Radio conversation between Port Authorites and Concordia (unidentified crew on Concordia) takes place discusses blackout only)

 

**10:26 Coast Guard in Livorno radios Concordia not a second, a third time.

 

**10:30 Crew still announcing to passengers at Muster Stations to return to cabins.

 

**10:30 Schettino orders a Mayday, Concordia is listing 20 degrees

 

**10:40 Cook reports Schettino orders dinner and waits with companion?

 

**10:30-10:50 Concordia is still moving to starboard, apparently under thruster control

 

Harbor Master's official log:

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9030216/Costa-Concordia-Harbour-masters-log-shows-how-the-disaster-unfolded.html

 

What was Schettino planning? In the 70 minutes prior to the order (which appears to be reluctant) to abandoned ship, he turns the ship hard about, moves it closer to land essentially grounding it, orders crew to put on life jackets and in retrospect describes all of those actions as life saving decisions yet never gives the impression to anyone of authority (at least outside of the cruiseline that we know of) that there is any real threat to the ship? What did he think would happen? The ship would just rest there, sitting upright and eventually he would offload the passengers and crew?

 

This is where I get even more fuzzy. Costa has made a statement that the crew was able to get almost all passengers off the ship in under 2 hours yet I still see video and read accounts of many passengers attempting to get off the ship up to 6 hours later. Coast Guard night vision video:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwmz9LN8wcE

 

CONTINUATION

 

confirmed

**9:42 Concordia strikes a rock.

 

confirmed

**9:45 A passenger calls her parents from the ship's dining room within 3 minutes after they struck rock.

 

**9:45-10:05 Crew ordered to put on life jackets

 

confirmed

**Power has gone completely out at some point during this time period, 9:45-10:06 leaving only emergency lighting.

 

**10:05 Schettino calls Costa Management, has one of three conversations.

 

confirmed

**10:06 Police from Prato contact the Harbor Master's office prompted by the previous phone call by a passenger to her parents earlier.

 

**10:06 Coast Guard at Livorno calls Concordia and speaks with Schettino?

 

**10:06 Concordia dropped anchor and is halfway into hard turn to starboard

 

confirmed

**10:14 Radio conversation between Port Authorites and Concordia (unidentified crew on Concordia) takes place discusses blackout only)

 

confirmed

**10:26 Coast Guard in Livorno radios Concordia not a second, a third time. Schettino admits Concordia is taking on water.

 

**10:30 Crew announces to passengers at Muster Stations to return to cabins.

 

**10:30 Schettino orders a Mayday, Concordia is listing 20 degrees

 

confirmed

**10:34 Harbor Master contactss Concordia which has sent a distress message, indicating Concordia is evacuating

 

**10:40 Cook reports Schettino orders dinner and waits with companion

 

**10:30-10:50 Concordia is still moving to starboard, apparently under thruster control

 

confirmed

**10:44 Patrol Boat reports to Harbor Master Concordia is "grounded"

 

**10:45 Bosio, Captain of the Serena, unofficially orders abandoned ship.

 

confirmed

**10:58 Schettino orders abandoned ship under pressure from Coast Guard

 

**11:00 Concordia finally stops moving toward land, apparently is grounded

 

**Sometime After 11:00 Deputy Mayor boards Concordia during this time, no other officers anywhere with the exception of Chief Purser, not even on the bridge.

 

**11:40 Schettino reportedly seen in a lifeboat, 2nd and 3rd officers present.

 

confirmed

**12:12AM Patrol Boat reports lifeboats cannot be lowered from Port side

 

**12:34 Schettino reports he is in a lifeboat.

 

confirmed

**12:42AM Coast Guard speaks to Schettino (confirms he is in a lifeboat) a second time via cell phone, ordered back on board Concordia.

 

**1:46AM DiFalco calls Schettino a third time via cell phone, ordered again on board to coordinate evacuation for a second time.

 

Second phone call from Harbor Master (DiFalco) to Schettino:

 

 

Third phone call from Harbor Master and Schettino:

 

 

During the time the ship made it's turn back to land and prior to abandoning ship order was given, were passengers already leaving the ship? Were there reports that stated passengers left/jumped and swam for it? The ship was grounded (reported by the Patrol Boat) at 10:44 but may have still been drifting as passengers jumped/swam away from the ship from the starboard side.

 

There is still alot of confusion surrounding the reports as to when Schettino was waiting for his meal as the cook reports he ordered dinner at 10:40, while the ship was heavily listing however he reportedly was seen eating with his companion prior to the incident.

 

Then he was reported already in a lifeboat at 11:40 however still in direct communication with the Harbor Master at 10:58 when he reluctantly ordered abandoned ship and confirms he is indeed in a lifeboat at 11:34. Where was he when he ordered abandoned ship at 10:58? Could he have been already heading to or attempting to leave the ship when he gave the order?

[Milaandra]

:

 

Then he was reported already in a lifeboat at 11:40 however still in direct communication with the Harbor Master at 10:58 when he reluctantly ordered abandoned ship and confirms he is indeed in a lifeboat at 11:34. Where was he when he ordered abandoned ship at 10:58? Could he have been already heading to or attempting to leave the ship when he gave the order?

 

The harbour masters report said 12:34

[pmfan]

Concordia timeline is full of, well something

 

cazzo

[Fury1995]

Concordia timeline is full of, well something

 

cazzo

 

You made me google this..

[tomculb]

I haven't had the time to read everything that's been posted about this (who has?), so if this has been well-covered elsewhere, my apologies, but I find I have a couple of nagging questions:

 

1. The ship was going more or less north-bound when she hit the rocks (next port was somewhere north up the Italian coast), but she came to rest on the east coast of the island, with her starboard side shoreside; in other words, heading south. At what point did she do a U-turn? Was that part of an effort to get her to shallow water as her final resting place?

 

2. Why did she roll over to starboard, when it was her port side that had the hole in it? It sounds like there must have been some effort to pump water from watertight compartments on the breached side to the other side; did they over do it and that's why the ship rolled instead of settling on its bottom?

 

And an observation: it's very fortunate that i)this occurred in the relatively warm waters of the Mediterranean instead of, say, Scandinavia or Alaska, and ii) that it rolled over in relatively shallow water instead of at a depth of several hundred feet or more.

[astrocruises]

~ 10:00 p.m. Engine room notifies bridge that the breach in the hull was beyond repair.

 

Asleep in his cabin at the back of Deck 3 when the Costa Concordia crashed, Andrea Carollo, leapt out of bed and dressed. By the time he opened his door water was already rushing down the corridor, and when he went to his post in the engine room the engines were beginning to flood.

“Within 15 minutes, the engine room told the bridge that there was nothing to be done,” he said. “The situation was beyond repair.”

He then reported to his muster point, a lifeboat for 35 crew members. “Unlike the captain, we were there until the end. We did all we could to avoid catastrophe,” he said.

Alberto Fiorito, 28, another engineer, said: “We didn’t wait for the captain to give the order to abandon ship. We saw how serious the situation was, and we did it ourselves.”

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9029866/Costa-Concordia-the-inside-story-of-the-night-of-Friday-January-13.html

[Aus Traveller]

The ship was going more or less north-bound when she hit the rocks (next port was somewhere north up the Italian coast), but she came to rest on the east coast of the island, with her starboard side shoreside; in other words, heading south. At what point did she do a U-turn? Was that part of an effort to get her to shallow water as her final resting place?

After the ship hit the rock/reef it lost power and continued nor-nor-east before making a sharp U-turn and coming to rest in shallow water. I haven't read why this manoeuvre was carried out, and why they didn't head closer to shore in the first place.

[astrocruises]

The captain wanted to go off and change into some dry socks," Paolo Fanciulli, 45, the owner of the Hotel Bahamas, told The Daily Telegraph. "He asked me if I could keep an eye on his bag. It was about 11.30am on Saturday. Italian journalists were trying to interview him. Suddenly a blonde woman, who I guessed was a lawyer from what she said, came into the lobby and said: "No interviews".

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9032430/Costa-Concordia-authorities-search-for-cruise-ship-captains-laptop.html

[astrocruises]

At about 10:30 p.m., the officers mutinied on the bridge of the capsizing Concordia. Apparently only one officer, a Greek, was still on Schettino's side. The others decided that Roberto Bosio, a captain from Liguria and who was on board as a guest, would assume command of the ship. Bosio, anxious to begin the evacuation immediately, started issuing orders.

The loudspeakers finally sounded the emergency alarm at 10:58 p.m., triggering a panic among the passengers.

 

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,810761-3,00.html

 

I think this explains a lot -- Schettino's reluctance to return to the ship once he's off, and the arrest of the Greek First Officer.