bobandsherry Posted February 18, 2012 #26 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Too bad and sorry to hear of the problem with missing documents, but lesson learned for everyone, don't wait until last minute to review your plans and documents. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits53 Posted February 18, 2012 #27 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I agree with the poster who said to try the hospital where the children were born. I'm so sorry for you to have this happen at the "last minute"! However, if they can't go on the cruise, I would remember that all things happen for a reason.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbohbbneedacruise Posted February 18, 2012 #28 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Would trip insurance even cover something like this? The only insurance that would cover it would be cancel for any reason. Anything else probably isn't going to cover something like this. I found out last year from reading our travel insurance that there is an exclusion within the policy concerning travel documents. If you do not have the proper travel documents they will not cover cancellation. OP so sorry this is happening. Their best bet is to go and try. Get to the terminal very early. I also have read that in certain instances at the terminal exceptions have been made and that the hospital has faxed the birth record. I'm not trying to give false hope but it has been done. Here is a thread from Sept 2011 where boarding was allowed using a hospital birth record. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1487879&highlight=cruise+port+hospital+birth+record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carnivaljunkie Posted February 18, 2012 Author #29 Share Posted February 18, 2012 The other eight of us are leaving at 2:00 PM EST for the airport. We hope that the other four find a solution and join us, but we know that they would not want all of us to miss the cruise. Four of us doing back to backs on the Freedom so I won't be able to tell you what happened for a couple of weeks. Thanks again for your kind thoughts and suggestions. Things have a way of working out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinfanatic Posted February 18, 2012 #30 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I found out last year from reading our travel insurance that there is an exclusion within the policy concerning travel documents.If you do not have the proper travel documents they will not cover cancellation. OP so sorry this is happening. Their best bet is to go and try. Get to the terminal very early. I also have read that in certain instances at the terminal exceptions have been made and that the hospital has faxed the birth record. I'm not trying to give false hope but it has been done. Here is a thread from Sept 2011 where boarding was allowed using a hospital birth record. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1487879&highlight=cruise+port+hospital+birth+record the hospital may have a birth record but does not have a certified BC.If it was a week day, the op could call the government agency where the BC is and get it faxed to the port. Happens all the time, but that's not going to happen if they aren't open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spleenstomper Posted February 18, 2012 #31 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Enjoy your B2B... Let us know when you got back what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waldos Posted February 18, 2012 #32 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I am so sorry for you all- what an awful discovery! And I am now going to call my two guests and ask them to confirm that they have their passports in hand for our cruise next month. They did last fall- I want to know that they have them now. I would be sick for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracyanns Posted February 18, 2012 #33 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I found out last year from reading our travel insurance that there is an exclusion within the policy concerning travel documents.If you do not have the proper travel documents they will not cover cancellation. OP so sorry this is happening. Their best bet is to go and try. Get to the terminal very early. I also have read that in certain instances at the terminal exceptions have been made and that the hospital has faxed the birth record. I'm not trying to give false hope but it has been done. Here is a thread from Sept 2011 where boarding was allowed using a hospital birth record. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1487879&highlight=cruise+port+hospital+birth+record I wonder if since this is the result of a robbery if there is a police report tha the homeowners insurance could cover it...never hurts to check! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chigirlcruzin Posted February 18, 2012 #34 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I wonder if since this is the result of a robbery if there is a police report tha the homeowners insurance could cover it...never hurts to check! I was thinking along the same lines...since it is robbery related, would trip insurance cover it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chigirlcruzin Posted February 18, 2012 #35 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Most states have a web site where you can get a certified copy of your birth certificate. The only problem is it takes a minimum of 24 hours to get it. Their best bet is to order a expidited copy from the internet and make plans to fly to the first stop. That's not an option with birth certificates. You need a passport to fly into a foreign country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaytonCruiser Posted February 18, 2012 #36 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Wasnt there a thread several months ago...a poster lost or misplaced a BC for her small child. She got John Heald involved and the hospital where the child was born and they coordinated it some how to get the entire family aboard the ship I cant remember how long the entire process took...if I can find the link I will post it. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1476086 In this post the mom said she got an Affidavit of birth from us customs. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=30469422&postcount=178 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzycick Posted February 18, 2012 #37 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I'm not saying this would work for everybody and it might have partly worked because my husband is in the military with military ID. And you would need to have previously made some kind of copy or scan of the original. On our first cruise we realized the night before that my husband didn't grab his birth certificate. We were of course freaking out with no time to return to get it. We called the port authority or somebody and they said it's not so much getting on the ship that's difficult, but getting off. We had a friend get into our house and grab his BC. She scanned a copy and emailed it to us as well as faxed a copy to the hotel. Then she express shipped it to our hotel which agreed to hold onto it for us. We found a copy place to print off a huge color copy of the BC. We didn't have a problem getting on the ship with this in Miami. We were lucky that getting off the ship the guy hardly looked at it and instead talked military with my husband. But our plan was for me to return to the hotel to pick up the real BC if the copy wasn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathansburden Posted February 18, 2012 #38 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Do they have baptismal certificates? My BIL as never issued a birth certificate (long story, he just got a legal name last month) and Carnival let him board with the Baptisim cert in place of a bc. They didn't even give him a hard time about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharmedMom Posted February 18, 2012 #39 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I believe the birth certificates need to be certified copies.. In my experience with schools and sports ,etc, you only need to provide a copy machine copy. S that probably won't work either. Maybe a quick run to Disney World instead? What a bummer-- so sorry you are having to deal with this!! Yes the BC has to have the raised seal on it to be considered an official document, and I believe I've read somewhere that the BC used cannot be the hospital certificate (which is why the raised seal is required). And without a passport, you wouldn't be able to fly to the first port (unless it was something in the United States). I start making sure I have all documents two weeks prior to my cruise. And I constantly am checking to make sure I have them all (I don't relax until I am on board). It's a shame that the OP's family was robbed, but I have to say the thing that I'm sure others are thinking ... why weren't they making sure all documents were together before now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinfanatic Posted February 18, 2012 #40 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Yes the BC has to have the raised seal on it to be considered an official document, no such rule. Many states do not offer raised seal BC's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crzycick Posted February 18, 2012 #41 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Not all official birth certificates have a raised seal, ours from Kansas do not and they are official Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachbum6264 Posted February 18, 2012 #42 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Ours have water marks, no raised seals. They just have to be state issued NOT hospital copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlt46 Posted February 18, 2012 #43 Share Posted February 18, 2012 no such rule. Many states do not offer raised seal BC's In Texas we can go get our birth certificates within minutes of applying. We had to go to Richardson from Plano and pay money. We left with them. They were stamped by the officials there and considered legal. Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxiecat3 Posted February 18, 2012 #44 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I wonder if since this is the result of a robbery if there is a police report tha the homeowners insurance could cover it...never hurts to check! I was thinking along the same lines...since it is robbery related, would trip insurance cover it? The OP stated the robbery was a couple of months ago. I wouldn't think either policy would cover as they would feel you had plenty of time to replace stolen items. Gregg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travlngrl1996 Posted February 18, 2012 #45 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Too bad and sorry to hear of the problem with missing documents, but lesson learned for everyone, don't wait until last minute to review your plans and documents. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk My husband think that I am nuts when I do this, but I make sure and check and re-check all documents that we need. I hope everything works out for the OP :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldocruiser1 Posted February 18, 2012 #46 Share Posted February 18, 2012 really stretching it now don't you think? No my grandson has a school id at 11, in the 5th grade, it has a picture, his name, school name, school address, My sons had them also in Colorado in jr and sr highschool. So I do not think it is a stretch, if you have them, it would be worth trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spleenstomper Posted February 18, 2012 #47 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Well, the kids are 5 and 3 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinJenF Posted February 18, 2012 #48 Share Posted February 18, 2012 No my grandson has a school id at 11, in the 5th grade, it has a picture, his name, school name, school address, My sons had them also in Colorado in jr and sr highschool. So I do not think it is a stretch, if you have them, it would be worth trying. Even with a drivers license or state issued ID you still need a passport or birth certificate. So no- school ID's will not cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishtaco Posted February 18, 2012 #49 Share Posted February 18, 2012 All people intending to travel over seas or to another country including children should have a passport. Then you would never have these problems with lost ID and birth certificates so close to cruise day! Den Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrenalineRush Posted February 18, 2012 #50 Share Posted February 18, 2012 All people intending to travel over seas or to another country including children should have a passport. Then you would never have these problems with lost ID and birth certificates so close to cruise day! Den Passport are great...but people can also lose those before the cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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