One Ship Once A Month Smokefree

[golfb4cruzing]

I think the time has come for Carnival, for that matter all cruiselines, to realize the attraction of a smokefree trip. Yes, it's been tried before. 20 years ago?? Raise the price a fair amount to compensate the Urban Myth of Bar and Casino Loss. Maybe their profit margin is so thin they can't afford to experiment. I'd be willing to go and try Carnival again. I would be in the Casino nightly, now on Carnival it's zero. I also understand they are experimenting with the smoke eaters but at what expense will it be? I also realize this is one of those touchy subjects but perhaps a civil discussion can happen. I am not in a smoke environment in my daily life so my expectations are to enjoy a smokefree vacation. In trade I would be willing to give up twice a day cleaning, chocolates on my pillow and tablecloths. But I draw the line at losing shrimp cocktail.

Edited March 27, 2016 by golfb4cruzing

[Je Souhaite]

I think the time has come for Carnival, for that matter all cruiselines, to realize the attraction of a smokefree trip. Yes, it's been tried before. 20 years ago?? Raise the price a fair amount to compensate the Urban Myth of Bar and Casino Loss. Maybe their profit margin is so thin they can't afford to experiment. I'd be willing to go and try Carnival again. I would be in the Casino nightly, now on Carnival it's zero. I also understand they are experimenting with the smoke eaters but at what expense will it be? I also realize this is one of those touchy subjects but perhaps a civil discussion can happen. I am not in a smoke environment in my daily life so my expectations are to enjoy a smokefree vacation. In trade I would be willing to give up twice a day cleaning, chocolates on my pillow and tablecloths. But I draw the line at losing shrimp cocktail.

 

Smokeless fails simply because all you need is one smoker in the group, and that cruise is then out of the question.

 

Which means plummeting fares just to sell it/them out. You recommendation of raising fares flies in the face of this concept as well.

 

Not sure how they would extinguish the biggest smoking object though; the funnel. Seems this doesn't bother you, or do you cruise in sailships?

 

The privilege of cruising is one of sharing the ship; not dictating what others can do once on board. If one cannot accept this, they should do their own charter on a yacht.

[HamSammie]

Raise the price a fair amount to compensate the Urban Myth of Bar and Casino Loss

 

I'm sure the casino is willing to sacrifice the money smoking whales bring in so you can put $10 into a penny slot.

 

As a partial owner of Carnival Corporation, this is a horrible idea. I am all for investing in the scrubbers - they have gotten good reviews so far.

[zino5]

While I know smoke free is not going to cut it. Better smoke eaters would be better. We just came off the Splendor and the smoke in the casino was not good. Every machine and table seemed to be a smoking machine and I didn't see much of a non smoking area. There were so many smokers that I think it was just too many in a small space. This was a Premier cruise for casino players so maybe that had something to do with it. But we called it the Smokeino. Trust me it didn't ruin my cruise but would have made the casino more enjoyable

[SMSACE6]

While I know smoke free is not going to cut it. Better smoke eaters would be better. We just came off the Splendor and the smoke in the casino was not good. Every machine and table seemed to be a smoking machine and I didn't see much of a non smoking area. There were so many smokers that I think it was just too many in a small space. This was a Premier cruise for casino players so maybe that had something to do with it. But we called it the Smokeino. Trust me it didn't ruin my cruise but would have made the casino more enjoyable

 

My last cruise on the Victory was like this too. I don't mind the occasional whiff of cigarette smoke, but I don't like to stew in it. And that is what it was like. It did end up cutting into my casino time very much, so and I found that I actually saved most of my gambling budget:D all that aside though, I don't really need a smoke free ship, just wish that Carnival would set aside one club for smokers to go to inside the ship, because I know outside is not always an option for them. Then non smokers could actually enjoy the casino again.

 

My next cruise is on Splendor, so I guess I wont be gambling much on that one either.

[evandbob]

My 1st two cruises were on the Paradise when it was totally smoke free. I'll offer a different explanation of why that experiment failed: no change in itinerary. After a few years of going the same two routes over and over again, non smokers were willing to change ships (and sometimes cruiselines) to cruise to different islands.

 

AS far as the smoke eaters perform, I was on the Glory Jan - Feb Journey cruises this year and the casino air that was filtered and recirculated was a pleasant change from the clouds of smoke that one normally encounters.

 

I think the air cleaners present a suitable compromise and are a positive change for a better breathing environment on the ship. I hope that program expands and becomes the new normal in the casino.

[RuthlessBoss]

I think the time has come for Carnival, for that matter all cruiselines, to realize the attraction of a smokefree trip. Yes, it's been tried before. 20 years ago?? Raise the price a fair amount to compensate the Urban Myth of Bar and Casino Loss. Maybe their profit margin is so thin they can't afford to experiment. I'd be willing to go and try Carnival again. I would be in the Casino nightly, now on Carnival it's zero. I also understand they are experimenting with the smoke eaters but at what expense will it be? I also realize this is one of those touchy subjects but perhaps a civil discussion can happen. I am not in a smoke environment in my daily life so my expectations are to enjoy a smokefree vacation. In trade I would be willing to give up twice a day cleaning, chocolates on my pillow and tablecloths. But I draw the line at losing shrimp cocktail.

 

So far they must be doing okay without your once a year cruise and you not being there:D

[tigresslea]

Not sure how they would extinguish the biggest smoking object though; the funnel. Seems this doesn't bother you, or do you cruise in sailships?

 

I don't understand why people think the two are comparable. They're not even close to the same thing and you can't even smell the ship exhaust since it's up so high and no one has to sit in an enclosed room with the funnel. If ships designed a smoking room up there with the funnel, I don't think anyone would complain. Great idea!

[Cushing985]

Hopefully Carnival's new builds will incorporate ventilation systems that will take care of the smoke. I don't gamble but when walking through the casino it can be a bit overwhelming with the smoke. Does it bother me? No, there are very few places where the smokers can enjoy their habit (most are outside in the elements with the casino the exception). Maybe the lines can set aside an under-utilized space within the ship with an industrial size ventilation system. That might give some relief in the casino.

[Hog Rider]

You already have 95% smoke free.

[flyingtocruise]

I think the time has come for Carnival, for that matter all cruiselines, to realize the attraction of a smokefree trip. Yes, it's been tried before. 20 years ago?? Raise the price a fair amount to compensate the Urban Myth of Bar and Casino Loss. Maybe their profit margin is so thin they can't afford to experiment. I'd be willing to go and try Carnival again. I would be in the Casino nightly, now on Carnival it's zero. I also understand they are experimenting with the smoke eaters but at what expense will it be? I also realize this is one of those touchy subjects but perhaps a civil discussion can happen. I am not in a smoke environment in my daily life so my expectations are to enjoy a smokefree vacation. In trade I would be willing to give up twice a day cleaning, chocolates on my pillow and tablecloths. But I draw the line at losing shrimp cocktail.

 

Don't forget no liquor on this cruise.

[crusinpsychRN]

Once a month smoke anywhere cruise.

[cruizinisthebest]

Once a month smoke anywhere cruise.

 

lol.

 

I'm not a smoker. Never have been. But I would be fine with this idea IF it stopped the non smokers who complain about smokers - from complaining about smokers. Sooo over it! Unfortunately there are some in that crowd that will not be satisfied until smoking is prohibited on every inch of every cruise ship.

[klfrodo]

Let's beat another dead horse

Edited March 27, 2016 by klfrodo

[Lunar Blue]

As someone from the UK, where smoking in all indoor public areas is completely banned, I was amazed at how the debate on smoking in the casino is so divisive and inflammatory.

 

It is so abnormal in the UK to encounter smokers indoors these days, that it is so strange to realise that this is still acceptable in the US and that the right to do so is so strongly defended.

 

We cruised in December on the Sunshine and whilst doing my pre-embarkation research I saw several threads about smoking in the casino and was surprised how much discussion there was about it. I hadn't realised how much the smokers defended their right to smoke. In the UK since it was banned, virtually every smoker has accepted the rules and complies with them. Some may try to flaunt it by staying close to the doorway when smoking outdoors, but it is pretty much unheard of for anyone to openly smoke indoors in a public place. I naively expected that there may be a few small pockets of smokers in the casino, in very well defined areas, with no chance of them contaminating anyone else.

 

That assumption was completely crushed once onboard the Sunshine and in the casino on the first night. Seeing and smelling so many people smoking, with no apparent way to escape it was quite an eye opener and a shock. It was impossible to get to cashiers without walking through the smoking area and the adjacent Sports Bar always had a smokey smell. Supposedly non smoking areas were occupied by smokers with complete disregard for the minimal prohibitive signs.

 

Since returning from our cruise I have also seen many discussions on here about it, and am still amazed that the arguments in favour of the right to smoke outweighs the right not to breath other people's secondhand smoke. Then I figured out that in the US the tobacco lobby is pretty much as powerful as the gun lobby, so no one will ever win that argument.

 

Just offering an opinion from the other side of the pond!

[tonyweir]

In the USA, smokers are used to waiting until they go outside to light up. In most states, restaurants, bars, workplaces and commercial establishments are all smoke free. Smokers get their "smoke break" to go light up. Smoking is the one vise that directly affects other people.

 

I really don't think any bar or casino revenue would be lost if the ships were all non smoking inside. Smokers would go out on deck to smoke, just like on land.

 

The last Carnival cruise we took allowed smoking in the casino which was in the middle if deck 5. You had to walk through the cloud to get to get to the other end of the ship.

 

I think it's time, for everyone's health, that all cruise lines calling on US ports have a non smoking policy like all other business in the US.

[evandbob]

Let's beat another dead horse

 

Glad you mentioned dead. I worked in substance and alcohol rehab for years.

 

It was amazing to see the miracles of those who were able to finally give up the pills, coke, dope and booze.

 

And then it was heartbreaking to watch these same people die, 10, 15, 20, 25 years after getting clean and sober from smoking.

[joeyancho]

Once a month smoke anywhere cruise.

 

What he said!

[joeyancho]

It would never work. Even if they tried it the smoking police (you know the people who fan their nose and make a sour face when they think they get a whiff of smoke), would be moaning that they still smelled smoke from the last cruise. What they do now is fine. Smoking areas just like in real life.

Edited March 27, 2016 by joeyancho

[roseaxel]

OK, then let's do a once a month cruise that bans all the obese people or one that bans kids, or one that bans old people...etc, etc

[johnlisac]

Making casinos smoke free will never happen entirely if someone leaves a casino to go outside and smoke he or she is not sitting in front of a machine losing money. As for the opinion from the UK well let's just say your from the UK not USA. We have laws and regulations also and smoking inside public areas really doesn't exist in most states except for casinos. If you don't like it don't go to the casinos or travel with a different cruise line that prohibits smoking in all indoor areas.

 

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[klfrodo]

Glad you mentioned dead. I worked in substance and alcohol rehab for years.

 

It was amazing to see the miracles of those who were able to finally give up the pills, coke, dope and booze.

 

And then it was heartbreaking to watch these same people die, 10, 15, 20, 25 years after getting clean and sober from smoking.

 

There is a guarantee that they were going to die some day.

I'm going to die some day. You'll die some day.

For me? I can only hope it's on my terms. Enjoying a smoke after my beer and bacon cheeseburger on a white sandy beach.

[cynalan]

there are some in that crowd that will not be satisfied until smoking is prohibited on every inch of every cruise ship.

 

I would count myself in that group. I will not visit the casino due to the smoke. My last Celebrity cruise was great - no smoke in the casino or having to breathe in the pollution from someone smoking on a nearby verandah.

[johnlisac]

I would count myself in that group. I will not visit the casino due to the smoke. My last Celebrity cruise was great - no smoke in the casino or having to breathe in the pollution from someone smoking on a nearby verandah.

Well see you found the solution cruise with a different cruise line. See people its not that hard to figure out.

 

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[cruiseonthebrain]

Smokeless fails simply because all you need is one smoker in the group, and that cruise is then out of the question.

 

Which means plummeting fares just to sell it/them out. You recommendation of raising fares flies in the face of this concept as well.

 

Not sure how they would extinguish the biggest smoking object though; the funnel. Seems this doesn't bother you, or do you cruise in sailships?

 

The privilege of cruising is one of sharing the ship; not dictating what others can do once on board. If one cannot accept this, they should do their own charter on a yacht.

 

"Dictating"- really don't you think that is just a tad over dramatic. OP was just tossing an idea out there. Even with his or her proposal there would still be plenty of opportunity to get your cancer stick on.