One Loyalty Program for all Carnival brands

[elliair]

It would be nice. Id like to try Princess when we go to Alaska but since we will be at the bottom whichever line we choose then I'll shop around more. (No, I don't want to sail carnival to Alaska)

 

You're a very astute person. We did Carnival to Alaska on the Legend and it won't ever happen again. I put the Legend right up there with the Inspiration!

Edited June 8, 2016 by elliair

[Micahs Grandad]

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You're a very astute person. We did Carnival to Alaska on the Legend and it won't ever happen again. I put the Legend right up there with the Inspiration!

 

Have not done Alaska yet but have been told that Princess does it better than anyone else.

[Karnyval]

this is the same old and tired argument that drunken bikers and spring breakers are going to overrun Princess and HAL -

 

I'd say closer to Platinum cruisers whining about FTTF

 

A lot more people cruise on Carnival than Princess or HAL, so an overrun could happen. If the drunken bikers and spring breakers want to cruise on Princess and HAL they can pay for their cruise and start out in the basement like everyone else.

 

I don't think even the casinos have a merged Frequent Loser Program.

[FLSteve11]

Its not cruising for the benefits, its if you have two options and all else being equal, it can definitely break that difference

 

I generally look at it as I factor it into my decision making process if deciding between 2-3 cruises. I won't sail just because of the benefits on a line, but they do add value and I lump it in with (and basically behind) itinerary, price, ship, and the like, when I make my decision.

[Luke Dawg]

I'd say closer to Platinum cruisers whining about FTTF

 

A lot more people cruise on Carnival than Princess or HAL, so an overrun could happen. If the drunken bikers and spring breakers want to cruise on Princess and HAL they can pay for their cruise and start out in the basement like everyone else.

 

I don't think even the casinos have a merged Frequent Loser Program.

oh yeah FTTF great example. We all go to the same lounge for boarding and disembarkation. No issues there.

[Micahs Grandad]

I'd say closer to Platinum cruisers whining about FTTF

 

A lot more people cruise on Carnival than Princess or HAL, so an overrun could happen. If the drunken bikers and spring breakers want to cruise on Princess and HAL they can pay for their cruise and start out in the basement like everyone else.

 

I don't think even the casinos have a merged Frequent Loser Program.

 

Each line wants to keep its own losers:)

[Karnyval]

Each line wants to keep its own losers:)

 

And they do a good job with discounted and/or free cruises. But that's a perk that has nothing to do with loyalty levels.

[PAPERBKWRITER]

RCCL does it already. Also MSC will match any program.

 

When I cruise Celebrity or RCCL they have separate programs and didn't honor my other cruises. Maybe if you're platinum they may but I only have 28 RCCL days and 35 Celebrity and they told me neither counts for the other line.

[Luke Dawg]

When I cruise Celebrity or RCCL they have separate programs and didn't honor my other cruises. Maybe if you're platinum they may but I only have 28 RCCL days and 35 Celebrity and they told me neither counts for the other line.

it is the same with all CCL.

[Luke Dawg]

All the Naysayers:

 

I am trying to figure out what benefits you trying to protect? Is there a secret door only the elite of the elite have access to that serves unlimited champagne. Do you have a special line at the buffet. Do you get the first row of lounge chairs at the pool. Does your key allow for express elevator service to your deck.

[CruzVinnieCruz]

oh yeah FTTF great example. We all go to the same lounge for boarding and disembarkation. No issues there.

 

This is not my understanding as FTTF does not have access to the boarding lounge. Also I believe the same is true for disembarkation that there are separate areas for VIFP and FTTF.

 

VIFP Diamond and Platinum members and guests traveling in deluxe suite accommodations are the only guests to have access to the Priority Check-In Lounge at embarkation. FTTF guests will not have this benefit so embarkation will not be impacted in the Priority Check-In Lounge.

 

Similar to airlines boarding first class and then elite frequent flyers, etc., we will start with VIFP Diamond and Platinum members, followed by guests traveling in deluxe suite accommodations and then FTTF guests.

 

Take care,

Vinnie

[Luke Dawg]

This is not my understanding as FTTF does not have access to the boarding lounge. Also I believe the same is true for disembarkation that there are separate areas for VIFP and FTTF.

 

VIFP Diamond and Platinum members and guests traveling in deluxe suite accommodations are the only guests to have access to the Priority Check-In Lounge at embarkation. FTTF guests will not have this benefit so embarkation will not be impacted in the Priority Check-In Lounge.

 

Similar to airlines boarding first class and then elite frequent flyers, etc., we will start with VIFP Diamond and Platinum members, followed by guests traveling in deluxe suite accommodations and then FTTF guests.

 

Take care,

Vinnie

I have sat next to FTTF guests in both lounges, no big deal to me. The point here is CCL is willing to bend the rules for a price, the fact a first time Carnival cruiser who pays for the upgrade gets the benefit while CCL loyalists of another brand are relegated to the line that snakes out the terminal is not right. I hope you agree..

[CruzVinnieCruz]

I have sat next to FTTF guests in both lounges, no big deal to me. The point here is CCL is willing to bend the rules for a price, the fact a first time Carnival cruiser who pays for the upgrade gets the benefit while CCL loyalists of another brand are relegated to the line that snakes out the terminal is not right. I hope you agree..

 

I agree but the CCL loyalists of another brand have the option of paying for that same upgrade on Carnival.

 

As for sitting next to FTTF guests in both lounges does not mean they were supposed to be there and it is not Carnivals policy.

 

I have sit next to passengers on occasions in first class on an airplane up to the point the flight attendant asks for their ticket tells them they are in the wrong seat. The point is some people will try to bend the rules on their own.

 

Take care,

Vinnie

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All the Naysayers:

 

I am trying to figure out what benefits you trying to protect? Is there a secret door only the elite of the elite have access to that serves unlimited champagne. Do you have a special line at the buffet. Do you get the first row of lounge chairs at the pool. Does your key allow for express elevator service to your deck.

 

 

People have paid $$$$ to reach this status. Why should those who have paid less get the same benefits? If Carnival were to do this, they would be losing money not making it - especially on the minibar set up. I can see where platinum people would go for it. Why not get rid of this "status" stuff and make everyone the same? Because we are not all the same!

 

 

 

 

 

Includes all Platinum Member benefits plus:

PREFERRED SERVICES PACKAGE

Priority Ship to Shore Tender Embarkation

As a well-traveled guest with Princess, you have the opportunity to travel ashore quickly and without waiting in line in our tender ports. Simply present your Elite cruise card directly at the tender embarkation area. You will then join any remaining passengers and board the tender as soon as it is clear to embark, and will not need to wait with other passengers in the lounge area.

 

Priority Disembarkation

If you have independent onward travel you may contact the Circle Host towards the end of your voyage to state your request to disembark with your preferred disembarkation group. If you'd like to linger onboard longer, we'll be more than happy to give you a later disembarkation group. If you'd like to be one of the first groups to disembark, we'll gladly accommodate - the choice is yours!

 

Shoe Polishing Service

Your shoes will be polished upon request - this service is complimentary.

 

Complimentary Laundry and Professional Cleaning Services***

Upon request, your stateroom steward will organize your laundry to be cleaned - compliments of Princess Cruises Captain’s Circle!

 

 

ELITE STATEROOM AMENITIES PACKAGE

Complimentary Mini Bar Set Up**

Your stateroom will receive one mini bar set up consisting of a selection of liquors, soft drinks, beer, still and sparkling water. Once onboard you may contact Room Service to change your mini-bar selection. Certain restrictions apply. Drinks will be refilled upon request and you will only be charged for the additionally requested drinks consumed.

 

Deluxe Canapes Selection

Upon request you will receive a complimentary selection of deluxe canapés specially created by the Chef, delivered to your stateroom on formal nights (one order per Elite stateroom, each formal night). This benefit can be ordered by completing the card provided in your stateroom and hanging it outside your stateroom door by 10:00pm the night prior to the formal nights.

 

Afternoon Tea

Complimentary afternoon tea may be served in your stateroom, should you wish. You may request this via room service at least six hours prior to the desired delivery time.

 

Upgraded Bathroom Amenities

Regardless of your stateroom type, your stateroom bathroom will be stocked with the upgraded amenities normally reserved only for Suite guests.

 

 

PREFERRED DISCOUNT PACKAGE

10% Boutique Discount

Our Boutiques are second to none for choice and gift selection. Now, as an Elite Member, take advantage of a 10% discount storewide to buy those extra gifts for all your family back home! Your Cruise Card is your key to this wonderful benefit - simply show it when you make any purchase, and our Boutique Staff will automatically deduct 10% from your purchase price.

 

Complimentary Grapevine Wine Tasting

Our Grapevine Wine Tasting Event is popular and many of our Members attend, so we have made arrangements to pick up the cover charge for you!

 

 

*Members are eligible for a higher tier on the next cruise following completion of necessary cruises and/or cruise days. Land portion of cruisetour does not apply.

**For passengers 21 and over, complimentary mini-bar set-up is one time only, per stateroom. Complimentary Grapevine Wine Tasting is one per cruise, per Elite Member.

***Excludes same-day service

Plus, the following Platinum Member Benefits:

 

Includes all Ruby Member benefits plus:

 

Complimentary Cruise Atlas^

Every year you will automatically receive a copy of our Princess Cruise Atlas. It includes details on all itineraries and sailings for that year, making it easy for you to plan ahead.

 

Preferred Check-In

When you arrive at the port, don’t wait in line. You, along with your family or guests that are traveling with you in the same stateroom will be invited to use the Preferred Check-In desk to help expedite your embarkation.

 

Platinum Disembarkation Lounge

In recognition of your loyalty, and to make your last morning with us more enjoyable, we invite Platinum Members to use the Platinum Disembarkation Lounge, offering light refreshments and peace while you await disembarkation.

 

Complimentary Internet Credit#

Each Platinum Princess Cruises Captain’s Circle member will receive a complimentary Internet credit to be used either on the computers in our Internet Cafés or wireless Internet on the passenger’s personal wireless device. The amount of complimentary Internet is determined by the length of the sailing.

 

VOYAGE DURATION MINUTES 7 days or less 150 8-20 days 250 21+ days 500

 

As a Platinum Captain’s Circle Member you will be recognized as such when you initially log on to the Internet onboard. Upon the initial log on you will see a screen which shows you how many complimentary minutes you are eligible to receive. In addition, you will have the opportunity to select more minutes at the available rates. This offer is only available at the time of the initial log on.

 

Only usage exceeding the allotted amounts will be charged to your onboard folio. The Internet activation fee of $3.95 is waived for Platinum and Elite Princess Captain’s Circle Members.

Edited June 10, 2016 by elliair

[YourCruiseGurl]

This is not a completely bad idea. I get that people pay more on the higher-end lines and don't want their perks diluted.

 

Maybe the points could be weighted:

 

1 carnival night is only .75 HAL, .5 Princess and .25 Cunard and so on (not sure of the order here). And, you could reverse it:

 

1 Cunard night is 4 Carnival nights, 2 Princess nights, so on and so forth.

 

Would that help in showing the value of your cruising history with a particular line while still allowing you to be recognized if you chose a different line in the family?

[DarthGrady]

When I cruise Celebrity or RCCL they have separate programs and didn't honor my other cruises. Maybe if you're platinum they may but I only have 28 RCCL days and 35 Celebrity and they told me neither counts for the other line.

That's correct, the equivalent status between RCI and Celebrity kicks in at Platinum, which will give you Celebrity Select or vice versa.

 

RCI Diamond, Diamond Plus and Pinnacle transfers to Celebrity Elite.

 

Celebrity Elite, Elite Plus and Zenith gives you RCI Diamond.

[Luke Dawg]

That's correct, the equivalent status between RCI and Celebrity kicks in at Platinum, which will give you Celebrity Select or vice versa.

 

RCI Diamond, Diamond Plus and Pinnacle transfers to Celebrity Elite.

 

Celebrity Elite, Elite Plus and Zenith gives you RCI Diamond.

thanks for the clarification

[Karnyval]

I have sat next to FTTF guests in both lounges, no big deal to me. The point here is CCL is willing to bend the rules for a price, the fact a first time Carnival cruiser who pays for the upgrade gets the benefit while CCL loyalists of another brand are relegated to the line that snakes out the terminal is not right. I hope you agree..

 

For a very small number of cruisers. It is limited. Imagine if it wasn't how the 100,000+ Platinum cruisers would whine and howl? As it is, they think it is the end of the world. :p

 

Carnival can run their business anyway they want, within reason, as long as they provide the desired ROI to Corporate. They have no authority to dictate how the sister cruise lines run theirs. No easy path for riff raff.

[loubetti]

This is not a completely bad idea. I get that people pay more on the higher-end lines and don't want their perks diluted.

 

Maybe the points could be weighted:

 

1 carnival night is only .75 HAL, .5 Princess and .25 Cunard and so on (not sure of the order here). And, you could reverse it:

 

1 Cunard night is 4 Carnival nights, 2 Princess nights, so on and so forth.

 

Would that help in showing the value of your cruising history with a particular line while still allowing you to be recognized if you chose a different line in the family?

 

Now THAT could be a good way to do it! Or, it can be based on total $ spent, but just using a ratio like yours will probably serve, but I still prefer the $, but not by much!

 

Let's face it, a person who sails Cunard, and perhaps spends $1000+ per day, is not likely to try Carnival, but maybe the others up the totem pole.

 

Carnival was always about getting new people to cruise and, hopefully get them to move up the ladder once they started buying more upscale lines, but it doesn't work for everyone.

[Luke Dawg]

For a very small number of cruisers. It is limited. Imagine if it wasn't how the 100,000+ Platinum cruisers would whine and howl? As it is, they think it is the end of the world. :p

 

Carnival can run their business anyway they want, within reason, as long as they provide the desired ROI to Corporate. They have no authority to dictate how the sister cruise lines run theirs. No easy path for riff raff.

I agree with your take. I like dollar spent, the airlines have moved to this concept.

[Luke Dawg]

People have paid $$$$ to reach this status. Why should those who have paid less get the same benefits? If Carnival were to do this, they would be losing money not making it - especially on the minibar set up. I can see where platinum people would go for it. Why not get rid of this "status" stuff and make everyone the same? Because we are not all the same!

 

 

 

 

 

Includes all Platinum Member benefits plus:

PREFERRED SERVICES PACKAGE

Priority Ship to Shore Tender Embarkation

As a well-traveled guest with Princess, you have the opportunity to travel ashore quickly and without waiting in line in our tender ports. Simply present your Elite cruise card directly at the tender embarkation area. You will then join any remaining passengers and board the tender as soon as it is clear to embark, and will not need to wait with other passengers in the lounge area.

 

Priority Disembarkation

If you have independent onward travel you may contact the Circle Host towards the end of your voyage to state your request to disembark with your preferred disembarkation group. If you'd like to linger onboard longer, we'll be more than happy to give you a later disembarkation group. If you'd like to be one of the first groups to disembark, we'll gladly accommodate - the choice is yours!

 

Shoe Polishing Service

Your shoes will be polished upon request - this service is complimentary.

 

Complimentary Laundry and Professional Cleaning Services***

Upon request, your stateroom steward will organize your laundry to be cleaned - compliments of Princess Cruises Captain’s Circle!

 

 

ELITE STATEROOM AMENITIES PACKAGE

Complimentary Mini Bar Set Up**

Your stateroom will receive one mini bar set up consisting of a selection of liquors, soft drinks, beer, still and sparkling water. Once onboard you may contact Room Service to change your mini-bar selection. Certain restrictions apply. Drinks will be refilled upon request and you will only be charged for the additionally requested drinks consumed.

 

Deluxe Canapes Selection

Upon request you will receive a complimentary selection of deluxe canapés specially created by the Chef, delivered to your stateroom on formal nights (one order per Elite stateroom, each formal night). This benefit can be ordered by completing the card provided in your stateroom and hanging it outside your stateroom door by 10:00pm the night prior to the formal nights.

 

Afternoon Tea

Complimentary afternoon tea may be served in your stateroom, should you wish. You may request this via room service at least six hours prior to the desired delivery time.

 

Upgraded Bathroom Amenities

Regardless of your stateroom type, your stateroom bathroom will be stocked with the upgraded amenities normally reserved only for Suite guests.

 

 

PREFERRED DISCOUNT PACKAGE

10% Boutique Discount

Our Boutiques are second to none for choice and gift selection. Now, as an Elite Member, take advantage of a 10% discount storewide to buy those extra gifts for all your family back home! Your Cruise Card is your key to this wonderful benefit - simply show it when you make any purchase, and our Boutique Staff will automatically deduct 10% from your purchase price.

 

Complimentary Grapevine Wine Tasting

Our Grapevine Wine Tasting Event is popular and many of our Members attend, so we have made arrangements to pick up the cover charge for you!

 

 

*Members are eligible for a higher tier on the next cruise following completion of necessary cruises and/or cruise days. Land portion of cruisetour does not apply.

**For passengers 21 and over, complimentary mini-bar set-up is one time only, per stateroom. Complimentary Grapevine Wine Tasting is one per cruise, per Elite Member.

***Excludes same-day service

Plus, the following Platinum Member Benefits:

 

Includes all Ruby Member benefits plus:

 

Complimentary Cruise Atlas^

Every year you will automatically receive a copy of our Princess Cruise Atlas. It includes details on all itineraries and sailings for that year, making it easy for you to plan ahead.

 

Preferred Check-In

When you arrive at the port, don’t wait in line. You, along with your family or guests that are traveling with you in the same stateroom will be invited to use the Preferred Check-In desk to help expedite your embarkation.

 

Platinum Disembarkation Lounge

In recognition of your loyalty, and to make your last morning with us more enjoyable, we invite Platinum Members to use the Platinum Disembarkation Lounge, offering light refreshments and peace while you await disembarkation.

 

Complimentary Internet Credit#

Each Platinum Princess Cruises Captain’s Circle member will receive a complimentary Internet credit to be used either on the computers in our Internet Cafés or wireless Internet on the passenger’s personal wireless device. The amount of complimentary Internet is determined by the length of the sailing.

 

VOYAGE DURATION MINUTES 7 days or less 150 8-20 days 250 21+ days 500

 

As a Platinum Captain’s Circle Member you will be recognized as such when you initially log on to the Internet onboard. Upon the initial log on you will see a screen which shows you how many complimentary minutes you are eligible to receive. In addition, you will have the opportunity to select more minutes at the available rates. This offer is only available at the time of the initial log on.

 

Only usage exceeding the allotted amounts will be charged to your onboard folio. The Internet activation fee of $3.95 is waived for Platinum and Elite Princess Captain’s Circle Members.

Carnival Elite Benefits: Not that different:

 

Members-only offers

Member e-newsletter

Complimentary 1 liter bottle of water

Appreciation drink on 5+ day cruises

VIFP pin on every sailing

Priority check-in and boarding

Platinum and Diamond VIFP Party on 5+ day sailings (featuring complimentary drinks and appetizers)

Complimentary beverage at Seaday brunch (on ships where brunch is not available, complimentary beverage at breakfast or lunch in Main Dining Room)

“Chocolate Delight” strawberry plate

Unique, collectible pin

Priority spa reservations

Priority tender boarding

Casino: Buy-one-get-one-free tournament entry (Blackjack or Slot only)

$5 worth of complimentary arcade credits

Carnival logo gift on every sailing

Priority Guest Services assistance by phone

Priority line at onboard Guest Services desk no no no yes yes

Priority debarkation no no no yes yes

Priority reservations at Main Dining Room and Specialty Restaurant

Complimentary Wash & Fold laundry service

Guaranteed Main Dining Room and Specialty Restaurant reservations

Special event invitation from the Captain

on each sailing

One-time free cabin upgrade OR third and fourth

guests sail free

One-time donation to St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital®

One-time complimentary meal for two at Specialty

Restaurant

VIFP Club luggage tag set

Dedicated toll-free number for sales and service

[Computer Nerd]

People have paid $$$$ to reach this status. Why should those who have paid less get the same benefits?

 

not necessarily. you could have a platinum that spent 10 x 2 night cruises to no where in a 1a cabin and they would not have spent as much as a single 7 night cruise in a suite. yest the platinum would get benefits and the red card suite guest would get practically nothing for many more cruises to come.

 

and why do you think people paid money to reach a certain status. i thought people paid money to cruise and the cruise itself was the benefit. :confused:

Edited June 11, 2016 by Computer Nerd

[YourCruiseGurl]

Now THAT could be a good way to do it! Or, it can be based on total $ spent, but just using a ratio like yours will probably serve, but I still prefer the $, but not by much!

 

 

 

Let's face it, a person who sails Cunard, and perhaps spends $1000+ per day, is not likely to try Carnival, but maybe the others up the totem pole.

 

 

 

Carnival was always about getting new people to cruise and, hopefully get them to move up the ladder once they started buying more upscale lines, but it doesn't work for everyone.

 

 

 

Money spent would work too. That way you wouldn't have the complaints about those who reached platinum on Carnival by taking 2-day cruises in a 1a cabin. If weighted, they would get less value on the other lines than someone who always purchased balconies and suites. It could work...

[Luke Dawg]

it should be total dollar spent. dollar for dollar. if you spend 25k on one Princess 70 day world cruise you have 25k pts, if you spend 25k on ten 7 night Carnival cruises you have 25k pts.

[Karnyval]

$$$ spent may sound good, but it is trivial to inflate the number via the casino. Wouldn't take many cruises or days at sea.