Rare twangster Posted November 18, 2018 #101 Share Posted November 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Sunfun68 said: I just returned from a Bermuda cruise on the Anthem; at the Captain's corner, the captain said the Oasis will return to Bayonne the summer of 2020. I don't know if they will take on a million gallons of balast, lower their stacks and sail only at low tide, but RCL appears intent on sailing the Oasis out of Bayonne. Since the Oasis' listed height is 236' and the Verrazano allows ships up to 228' tall, this should be interesting. I know one thing though, if you want to part in the parking garage when the Oasis comes to town, arrive early. We arrived about 12:30 and parked in a spot only about ten feet from the edge of the roof on the 4th floor. Captain Srecko also boasted that Symphony would be a stretched Oasis class ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunfun68 Posted November 18, 2018 #102 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Yes, I believe it is stretched by about a foot!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted November 18, 2018 #103 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 hours ago, twangster said: Captain Srecko also boasted that Symphony would be a stretched Oasis class ship. He does not know anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted November 18, 2018 #104 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Sunfun68 said: I just returned from a Bermuda cruise on the Anthem; at the Captain's corner, the captain said the Oasis will return to Bayonne the summer of 2020. I don't know if they will take on a million gallons of balast, lower their stacks and sail only at low tide, but RCL appears intent on sailing the Oasis out of Bayonne. Since the Oasis' listed height is 236' and the Verrazano allows ships up to 228' tall, this should be interesting. I know one thing though, if you want to part in the parking garage when the Oasis comes to town, arrive early. We arrived about 12:30 and parked in a spot only about ten feet from the edge of the roof on the 4th floor. How can it return if it’s never been there? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted November 18, 2018 #105 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Thorben-Hendrik said: He does not know anything! Captains rarely do. So much misinformation has come from Captains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted November 18, 2018 #106 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Captains rarely do. So much misinformation has come from Captains. Yeah - they are part of the onboard entertainment for photos and to dance with the old pinapple ladys.....living of the reputation from 300 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare twangster Posted November 18, 2018 #107 Share Posted November 18, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: How can it return if it’s never been there? In the next Netflix sequel! "Like Daughter" Edited November 18, 2018 by twangster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted November 18, 2018 #108 Share Posted November 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, twangster said: In the next Netflix sequel! "Like Daughter" Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted November 18, 2018 #109 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Sunfun68 said: Yes, I believe it is stretched by about a foot!!!!!!! The upper decks are indeed streched in the back to increase capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 18, 2018 #110 Share Posted November 18, 2018 there is a point if a funnel retraction mechanism malfunctions up until a dry dock because the mechanism is broken then where would it go. so a whole new port just for the ship further from new york would have to be constructed for an . the largest in this position is stamford. the ship would have to seasonally be based there because of weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 18, 2018 #111 Share Posted November 18, 2018 The city of stamford would act like citavecchia in rome for the oasis class if it royal caribbean wanted to bring her to the new york market both having extensive rail and both be where cruise ships access port cities away from the away from the major city. The investment in port would be be probably less than the cost of the ship.if royal caribbean bases her out of there for 20 years definely break even. the intineraries would include the follow ports with extended in (canada and new england): New London, Connecticut, Boston, Masssacheutts, Portland, Maine, Saint John, New Brunswick, Halifax, Nova Scotia. ports that would’ve been stopped at would be removed: Newport, Rhode Island and Bar Harbor, Maine. The piers would have to be extended in all the places including bermuda to accommodate remember like back in 2009 when caribbean ports had to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 18, 2018 #112 Share Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/10/2018 at 3:21 PM, Yorkvillain said: I agree with you that an Oasis class ship will not be coming to Cape Liberty any time soon if ever. They could fit under the Verrazano IF they lowered the funnels. They are not going to do that every week. No shot. I was just referring to the terminal itself. It could definitely handle an Oasis class ship even at max capacity. That’s exactly why they would build a whole new port outside the city in Perth Amboy or Stamford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkvillain Posted November 18, 2018 #113 Share Posted November 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, piescruises said: That’s exactly why they would build a whole new port outside the city in Perth Amboy or Stamford. Yeah that’s not happening. An excursion to the WWE offices in Stamford could have been exciting though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 18, 2018 #114 Share Posted November 18, 2018 maybe with Connecticut government funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted November 18, 2018 #115 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, piescruises said: The city of stamford would act like citavecchia in rome for the oasis class if it royal caribbean wanted to bring her to the new york market both having extensive rail and both be where cruise ships access port cities away from the away from the major city. The investment in port would be be probably less than the cost of the ship.if royal caribbean bases her out of there for 20 years definely break even. the intineraries would include the follow ports with extended in (canada and new england): New London, Connecticut, Boston, Masssacheutts, Portland, Maine, Saint John, New Brunswick, Halifax, Nova Scotia. ports that would’ve been stopped at would be removed: Newport, Rhode Island and Bar Harbor, Maine. The piers would have to be extended in all the places including bermuda to accommodate remember like back in 2009 when caribbean ports had to do the same. Extending the piers is the least of their worries if they wanted to try your plan. Oasis has a 30 ft draft. Lets just start there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 18, 2018 #116 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I think $1 billion dollars might cover the depthing of the harbor and since the ship is so large I think they would break even. They could also use the extra depth for ferry service. 2 minutes ago, reallyitsmema said: Extending the piers is the least of their worries if they wanted to try your plan. Oasis has a 30 ft draft. Lets just start there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 18, 2018 #117 Share Posted November 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, piescruises said: I think $1 billion dollars might cover the depthing of the harbor and since the ship is so large I think they would break even. They could also use the extra depth for ferry service. If they force a stop in new london I think the state would be onboard. harbors have been deepened before though the scale of this would be staggering. That’s a lot of money harbor deepening for a lot of tourist revune plus taxes collected for using the port. This only safe way I could see an oasis class ship coming in to New York. with other plans requiring the ship to lower the smoke stacks to bayonne and let’s say fails once what’s gonna happen there gonna have to move the ship where? the smoke stacks being retracted were built as a ONE time use, not a weekly use so who knows if it’s even safe for regular operation of the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted November 18, 2018 #118 Share Posted November 18, 2018 You are all forgetting one thing. Oasis was not meant to cruise for extended periods of time in cold weather. The reason Oasis class works with 6500 passengers is all the outdoor space, take that away during the cold weather and you’re going to be like sardines in a tin. No way they are investing money to bring her to NY for a short summer season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 18, 2018 #119 Share Posted November 18, 2018 To add the area around stamford traffic-wise could support the ship with one of the busiest train stations in the country and the people used to large volumes of traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 19, 2018 #120 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: You are all forgetting one thing. Oasis was not meant to cruise for extended periods of time in cold weather. The reason Oasis class works with 6500 passengers is all the outdoor space, take that away during the cold weather and you’re going to be like sardines in a tin. No way they are investing money to bring her to NY for a short summer season. This would be seasonal like adventure was seasonally in New York. You could probably keep her into fall but definetly not winter. Largest CSA with largest ship is very likely to work economically. This is if Royal Caribbean wanted to bring oasis class to New York. If they don’t this ain’t gonna happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 19, 2018 #121 Share Posted November 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: You are all forgetting one thing. Oasis was not meant to cruise for extended periods of time in cold weather. The reason Oasis class works with 6500 passengers is all the outdoor space, take that away during the cold weather and you’re going to be like sardines in a tin. No way they are investing money to bring her to NY for a short summer season. By the way not every ship in alaska has an indoor pool. the ruby princess which I went on (not an alaska) doesn’t have an indoor pool, which the star I did go on did and I enjoyed it in the cold weather. Princess deeemed it not a necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 19, 2018 #122 Share Posted November 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: You are all forgetting one thing. Oasis was not meant to cruise for extended periods of time in cold weather. The reason Oasis class works with 6500 passengers is all the outdoor space, take that away during the cold weather and you’re going to be like sardines in a tin. No way they are investing money to bring her to NY for a short summer season. By the way not every ship in alaska has an indoor pool. the ruby princess which I went on (not an alaska) doesn’t have an indoor pool, which the star I did go on did and I enjoyed it in the cold weather. Princess deeemed it not a necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted November 19, 2018 #123 Share Posted November 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, piescruises said: By the way not every ship in alaska has an indoor pool. the ruby princess which I went on (not an alaska) doesn’t have an indoor pool, which the star I did go on did and I enjoyed it in the cold weather. Princess deeemed it not a necessity. Indoor space, not indoor pools. Boardwalk and Central Park are not made for cold weather ports. The Aquatheater is not going to be a great venue to have in a cold weather port. Anthem has the Seaplex which is completely enclosed. It was built with a colder climate in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 19, 2018 #124 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Just now, reallyitsmema said: Indoor space, not indoor pools. Boardwalk and Central Park are not made for cold weather ports. The Aquatheater is not going to be a great venue to have in a cold weather port. Anthem has the Seaplex which is completely enclosed. It was built with a colder climate in mind. But it does have entertainment place and dazzles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piescruises Posted November 19, 2018 #125 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, reallyitsmema said: Indoor space, not indoor pools. Boardwalk and Central Park are not made for cold weather ports. The Aquatheater is not going to be a great venue to have in a cold weather port. Anthem has the Seaplex which is completely enclosed. It was built with a colder climate in mind. But it does have entertainment place and dazzles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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