Nashna Posted October 7, 2019 #101 Share Posted October 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said: Sitting by the poor? Is that like sipping cocktails in the YC while looking down at the folks in steerage? (I know you meant “pool” but the typo made me chuckle) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I hate small screens and bad vision. You rightfully surmised that I meant pool. Having spent a week on The Allure with the fam last June, the pool areas on that ship did look like Calcutta on a 104 degree day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymich Posted October 7, 2019 #102 Share Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, BermudaBound2014 said: I don't think the person DCguy64 is referencing in the above post is NYmich. I believe there is someone who cancelled in 2017, 2018 and the 2 upcoming cruises in 2020. NYmich, off topic, but did you book with Fred Olsen for Polynesian trip? That's a bucket list for me too. Have a marvelous time (I'm sure you will) :). We did not book on Fred Olson. We got lucky and found a great cruise out of San Diego hitting Hawaii and then out to the FP Islands and then over to the Marquesas Islands and back to SD. We booked Holland who we love for the BB Kings Blues Club and got a great deal because of our status obc etc..... We did not want a smaller ship either as we like some action lol. We also did not want to fly all the way out there and will only have to fly to SD and back. I thought about Paul Gaugin but I did not want to fly that far and to pay that much money being off the ship all the time. It made little sense to me. In addition that is just too small for us. We are planning it out now little by little. It is quite a few ports (10) that we do not know much about! Thanks for the kind comments and yes it is great trip! As a bonus we did reschedule our MSC YC B2B on Seaside later in 2020 and this time we will be armed with all the great comments that everyone will make regarding Ocean Cay. We love how that Island looks so far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalbarry Posted October 9, 2019 #103 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Hello Found these pictures of Ocean Cay . Hope you enjoy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCruisin Posted October 9, 2019 #104 Share Posted October 9, 2019 It sure looks pretty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 9, 2019 #105 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Looks a way from being finished by November 10th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashna Posted October 9, 2019 #106 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Its hard to know when these photos were taken. I wish that MSC would post updates on their OC progress. I hope the November cruises get to go and enjoy. The water looks amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymich Posted October 9, 2019 #107 Share Posted October 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, Nashna said: Its hard to know when these photos were taken. I wish that MSC would post updates on their OC progress. I hope the November cruises get to go and enjoy. The water looks amazing. No communication at all from MSC so everyone is left to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted October 9, 2019 #108 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Ah yes, the old MSC guessing game because they are far too busy spouting off about Grandiosa and the other new ships to realise that people headed there from November 10th want to know what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogfog Posted October 9, 2019 #109 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Nice to see the pavillions going up and the trees going in, the stone lining the shores to hold in the new beaches and the clearer water They have done so much to reclaim and build this site. MSC was lied to by the previous owner and the Bahamian gov...so much more have to be done re trash/cleaning etc. It will be lovely when completed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 9, 2019 #110 Share Posted October 9, 2019 (edited) The pictures posted today were taken 9/28. Fog- do you have a reference for the claim that MSc was lied to? I did pretty extensive research on oc a few years ago and I believe that the aggregate co who owned it after the pipeline corp did disclose that the island had toxic waste. Also, i believe that the marine preserve part of this operation was a stipulation dictated to MSc to appease the opposition to MSc building the island in the first place. Nymich- congrats on the Hal trip!! I’ve done the zuiderdam twice and it’s a great size/design. Post refit the addition of the music venues will be awesome. I have a cabin reserved on the westerdam to SA and Antarctica. It’s hard to beat HAL itineraries- their port times are typically spectacular. Edited October 9, 2019 by BermudaBound2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogfog Posted October 9, 2019 #111 Share Posted October 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said: The pictures posted today were taken 9/28. Fog- do you have a reference for the claim that MSc was lied to? I did pretty extensive research on oc a few years ago and I believe that the aggregate co who owned it after the pipeline corp did disclose that the island had toxic waste. Also, i believe that the marine preserve part of this operation was a stipulation dictated to MSc to appease the opposition to MSc building the island in the first place. It was in articles/commentary from MSC --- discussing the extent of clean up was far more than they were led to believe I think I posted those links/articles months ago here on CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalbarry Posted October 9, 2019 #112 Share Posted October 9, 2019 The pictures I posted of Ocean Cay where taken September 28, 2019.. No new pics as of yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 9, 2019 #113 Share Posted October 9, 2019 23 minutes ago, Fogfog said: It was in articles/commentary from MSC --- discussing the extent of clean up was far more than they were led to believe I think I posted those links/articles months ago here on CC Thanks- i don’t remember seeing it. I’ll dig through your posts and try to find the article, but I rarely pay much attention to corporate speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powersboyee2 Posted October 9, 2019 #114 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Hello Everyone... Sorry, newbie to MSC here. Heading out in Jan. Couple quick questions.... Also forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere, but I could not find it on CC. Is the ship drink package going to work on the island? Only asking because I see in the cruise planner that they have drink packages that say ocean cay. Didn't know if this was needed on top of the premium package or not? Also, our status match from RCCL got us black status on MSC. Is that going to be worth anything haha? Thanks for the info in advance!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serial Tequila Posted October 10, 2019 #115 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Its looking pretty far along in the photos, the scaffolding around buildings can make it look a lot less finished than it is, when that comes down it will make a big difference, looks like external cladding on some of the buildings etc to be done, that is very quick to do. I would be very surprised if it was not open on time, I am not saying it will be perfect by any means though...…. In the meantime photos of the light house changing colour on MSC facebook page look amazing. Cannot wait for Christmas when I will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMc&DrS Posted October 10, 2019 #116 Share Posted October 10, 2019 MSC has a ticker counting down to the opening of Ocean Cay now posted on their website. That's an encouraging sign. As of this morning it says 29 days, 12 hours, and 58 minutes to be exact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 10, 2019 #117 Share Posted October 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, Serial Tequila said: Its looking pretty far along in the photos, the scaffolding around buildings can make it look a lot less finished than it is, when that comes down it will make a big difference, looks like external cladding on some of the buildings etc to be done, that is very quick to do. I would be very surprised if it was not open on time, I am not saying it will be perfect by any means though...…. In the meantime photos of the light house changing colour on MSC facebook page look amazing. Cannot wait for Christmas when I will be there. Right! Your average cruise passenger might not know that the majority of time, these construction projects are 90% infrastructure and 10% buildings. Especially when you’re dealing with a cruise port designed for daily use (vs one where people stay overnight or for extended periods). I’d guess it will take them less than a month to put the finishing touches on. Of course, there’s likely to be more work done over the next few months, but I’m willing to bet the majority of work will be done in time for opening day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 10, 2019 #118 Share Posted October 10, 2019 1 hour ago, EMc&DrS said: MSC has a ticker counting down to the opening of Ocean Cay now posted on their website. That's an encouraging sign. As of this morning it says 29 days, 12 hours, and 58 minutes to be exact. If they just put the ticker up that is very positive news. Has everyone seen the interview with the Bahama Press? I believe it was done 4 days ago. MSC referred to the November date as a 'soft opening'. That is the first I've heard that term being used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 10, 2019 #119 Share Posted October 10, 2019 If they just put the ticker up that is very positive news. Has everyone seen the interview with the Bahama Press? I believe it was done 4 days ago. MSC referred to the November date as a 'soft opening'. That is the first I've heard that term being used. Personally, I think that’s very wise of MSC. I hear that term a lot in retail to denote a case where an establishment is open for business but not every “i” has been dotted nor every “t” crossed. It helps to tamp down expectations that absolutely everything will be ready to go on Day 1. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 10, 2019 #120 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said: Personally, I think that’s very wise of MSC. I hear that term a lot in retail to denote a case where an establishment is open for business but not every “i” has been dotted nor every “t” crossed. It helps to tamp down expectations that absolutely everything will be ready to go on Day 1. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think MSC should have listed the opening as a 'soft opening' for the last few years BEFORE people booked, instead of adding it right now after people have paid in full, but I'm much harder on MSC as a corporation than you are :). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogfog Posted October 10, 2019 #121 Share Posted October 10, 2019 The ticker has been up for a few weeks if I recall correctly Soft openings are a common phrase... We know the YC part of the OC won't be finished til spring/early summer next year as thats been documented her on CC months ago IN a matter of a few weeks we will have the first pax posted pics Hoping the best for MSC and the OC Looking fwd to the Nat Geo documentary... on how OC was recovered/restored and the work on the stone/reefs etc has already brought about beautiful water, lobsters and so on... the "lab" there to grow corals etc... all very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 10, 2019 #122 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fogfog said: Looking fwd to the Nat Geo documentary... on how OC was recovered/restored and the work on the stone/reefs etc has already brought about beautiful water, lobsters and so on... the "lab" there to grow corals etc... all very nice Me too!! I've been super interested in this island for several years! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 10, 2019 #123 Share Posted October 10, 2019 I think MSC should have listed the opening as a 'soft opening' for the last few years BEFORE people booked, instead of adding it right now after people have paid in full, but I'm much harder on MSC as a corporation than you are :).Haha, it’s not just MSC: I work in an industry where if you promise a product by a certain date & you can’t deliver, people complain. If you tell them after the fact that you knew you’d be late, they say you should’ve given advance notice. If you DO give advance notice, they complain that you should’ve delivered on time. So you’re going to get complaints basically no matter what! [emoji2369] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 10, 2019 #124 Share Posted October 10, 2019 2 hours ago, DCGuy64 said: Haha, it’s not just MSC: I work in an industry where if you promise a product by a certain date & you can’t deliver, people complain. If you tell them after the fact that you knew you’d be late, they say you should’ve given advance notice. If you DO give advance notice, they complain that you should’ve delivered on time. So you’re going to get complaints basically no matter what! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is exactly why I think MSC should have said "soft opening November 9th" from the beginning and given the people fair warning that the island may not be 100% complete. I am always a fan of information for the consumer and error on that side. We own a company, and error on the side of giving the consumer too much information each and every time. Our customers appreciate our candor and our company reviews are significantly better than MSC's. ;-). Since opening an island will always have a brief period of 'figuring things out', stating soft opening from the beginning gives MSC infinite room for error and covers their bases. Of course, savvy travelers already knew to expect a soft opening, but certainly inexperienced travelers could have been informed in a more timely fashion so they can make the best personal decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobichka Posted October 10, 2019 #125 Share Posted October 10, 2019 Today on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MSC.Cruises.USA/videos/2420591154865829/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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