Belfastman Posted November 14, 2019 #1 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Currently on Riviera staying in a veranda stateroom. This morning we got up to be greeted by a quantity of soot on the cloth they put by the bed in the eevening. Had anyone else experienced this and what causes it? Staff appear not to know or won't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andee Posted November 14, 2019 #2 Share Posted November 14, 2019 How unpleasant! We've never experienced that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 14, 2019 #3 Share Posted November 14, 2019 inside the cabin?? 😲 Very unusual I would think I have read that some in the aft cabins get soot on the balcony but never hear of it in the cabin Hope someone is coming to check the cabin out & find the source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted November 14, 2019 #4 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Perhaps not soot per say. Air ventilation systems often build up a dark dust and grit deposit. Sometimes those deposits can be uncharacteristically disturbed leaving a significant deposit of soot like materials through out the area. Unfortunately this happens frequently in large office buildings. Ships would be no exception. We bought a fairly new home a few years back. It had been well maintained and was very clean. We had a company come in and totally clean out the ventilation systems and air ducts. You wouldn’t believe the huge amount of gunk that came out of those ducts going all the way back to the time it was built! You probably wouldn’t want to see the insides of those ship’s air distribution systems, especially the older R ships with all their refurbishments! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastman Posted November 14, 2019 Author #5 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, LHT28 said: inside the cabin?? 😲 Very unusual I would think I have read that some in the aft cabins get soot on the balcony but never hear of it in the cabin Hope someone is coming to check the cabin out & find the source It was inside the cabin next to the bed. No-one has come back to tell us anything yet (6 hours later). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rucruisn2 Posted November 14, 2019 #6 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Whats your cabin #? Were going on Riviera in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastman Posted November 14, 2019 Author #7 Share Posted November 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, rucruisn2 said: Whats your cabin #? Were going on Riviera in a few weeks. Cabin 7119 B3 extended balcony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 14, 2019 #8 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Belfastman said: It was inside the cabin next to the bed. No-one has come back to tell us anything yet (6 hours later). I would be speaking with the GM ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rucruisn2 Posted November 14, 2019 #9 Share Posted November 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Belfastman said: Cabin 7119 B3 extended balcony. Were in a b3, extended balcony but on the other side of the ship. Love to hear what they tell you! How are you enjoying the ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastman Posted November 15, 2019 Author #10 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Reception would not permit us contact with GM insisted that we deal with housekeeping. We spoke to Head housekeeper who simply apologised but could not tell us anything more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 15, 2019 #11 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Belfastman said: Reception would not permit us contact with GM insisted that we deal with housekeeping. We spoke to Head housekeeper who simply apologised but could not tell us anything more. Who is the GM? If it happens again go to the Concierge & see if he can get an appt with the GM I usually do not have a problem speaking to the GM when needed actually a couple of them are usually out walking around the decks/public spaces so you can just stop them & mention the issue Certainly mention it in the comment cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastman Posted November 15, 2019 Author #12 Share Posted November 15, 2019 The GM is Marck Warmenhoven. We are getting of the ship now so will email Miami with this and another issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted November 15, 2019 #13 Share Posted November 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, Belfastman said: The GM is Marck Warmenhoven. We are getting of the ship now so will email Miami with this and another issue. I would have bet my life on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 15, 2019 #14 Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Belfastman said: The GM is Marck Warmenhoven. We are getting of the ship now so will email Miami with this and another issue. That explains things If you have a TA I would send them your comment to forward on to O JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arima22 Posted November 15, 2019 #15 Share Posted November 15, 2019 20 hours ago, Belfastman said: Cabin 7119 B3 extended balcony. a consideration. This is an aft stateroom below the ship's stacks, if the balcony door is open (and especially when the stateroom passageway door opens creating an inward sucking draft) and the ship's stacks or a nearby ship's stacks are blown, the wind is just right, that soot from the stacks could come right down to the balcony area below the ship's stacks.. From my US Navy experiences and now living on the main waterway for Puget Sound, WA shipping- you can see huge amount of smoke and particles put out by the ships. They are not supposed to "blow their stacks" within a certain distance of the cities, but.... you should see the layer of brown pollution on certain days when the wind and atmospheric pressure presents just the right conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 15, 2019 #16 Share Posted November 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, arima22 said: a consideration. This is an aft stateroom below the ship's stacks, if the balcony door is open (and especially when the stateroom passageway door opens creating an inward sucking draft) and the ship's stacks or a nearby ship's stacks are blown, the wind is just right, that soot from the stacks could come right down to the balcony area below the ship's stacks.. The cabin is not an aft cabin it is mid ship aft quarter or what every Navy term you want to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arima22 Posted November 15, 2019 #17 Share Posted November 15, 2019 It is not aft facing but It is considered an aft cabin, not mid ship aft quarter. In any case, the cabin is below the stacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 15, 2019 #18 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, arima22 said: It is not aft facing but It is considered an aft cabin, not mid ship aft quarter. In any case, the cabin is below the stacks. Whatever it is called hopefully the OP did not have the balcony door open in the night just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfastman Posted November 15, 2019 Author #19 Share Posted November 15, 2019 No door was not open as we had ice on the balcony the night before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted November 15, 2019 #20 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Belfastman said: No door was not open as we had ice on the balcony the night before. I can relate to that 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted November 16, 2019 #21 Share Posted November 16, 2019 19 hours ago, arima22 said: a consideration. This is an aft stateroom below the ship's stacks, if the balcony door is open (and especially when the stateroom passageway door opens creating an inward sucking draft) and the ship's stacks or a nearby ship's stacks are blown, the wind is just right, that soot from the stacks could come right down to the balcony area below the ship's stacks.. From my US Navy experiences and now living on the main waterway for Puget Sound, WA shipping- you can see huge amount of smoke and particles put out by the ships. They are not supposed to "blow their stacks" within a certain distance of the cities, but.... you should see the layer of brown pollution on certain days when the wind and atmospheric pressure presents just the right conditions. This is not from "blowing tubes", as boilers on ships these days are merely small auxiliary boilers used for heating, and don't get blown on a daily basis. What you are seeing is when the main diesel engine starts (it is directly connected to the propeller, so when the propeller stops the engine stops) or when it is suddenly accelerated, much like you see when a truck starts up from a stop light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catsngoats Posted November 16, 2019 #22 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Interesting: we will be on Marina 7123 and 7119 in January, will have to watch out for this phenomena. In all 8 past cruises, this will be the most aft we’ve been. Booked them for the extended balcony - we are going through the P canal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbwex Posted November 16, 2019 #23 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I agree with the comments by chengkp75, but the soot is inside from what I can gather. Unless the slider was open just as some soot was coming down, it is a bit of a mystery. It is possible that they were cleaning the cabin and had the slider open at an inopportune moment and some soot blew in. Still, it would have been on the chairs and table as well if that were the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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