RFerrington Posted August 24, 2020 #101 Share Posted August 24, 2020 52 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: Awesome news. Congrats! Thanks, Ken. Nobody was more surprised than me !! I did a calculation. With the discounts that they gave me on the original booking (military and CAS balcony), it is a 71% savings as compared to the discounted "net" online price of the SLS (IOW, assuming the 60% discount). I can't even get a casino rate like that ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 24, 2020 #102 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 minute ago, RFerrington said: Thanks, Ken. Nobody was more surprised than me !! I did a calculation. With the discounts that they gave me on the original booking (military and CAS balcony), it is a 71% savings as compared to the discounted "net" online price of the SLS (IOW, assuming the 60% discount). I can't even get a casino rate like that ! I swapped a $3200 Empress OS for a $13000 Odyssey OS😉😁 They are definitely mortgaging the future to keep bookings and cash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted August 24, 2020 #103 Share Posted August 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: I swapped a $3200 Empress OS for a $13000 Odyssey OS😉😁 They are definitely mortgaging the future to keep bookings and cash We need more of these 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 24, 2020 #104 Share Posted August 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, molly361 said: We need more of these 😂 My dance card is full 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted August 24, 2020 #105 Share Posted August 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, molly361 said: We need more of these 😂 After April of 2022, my schedules now full until then. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molly361 Posted August 24, 2020 #106 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: My dance card is full 1 minute ago, Ourusualbeach said: After April of 2022, my schedules now full until then. Yeah I'm full as well. Don't know why I keep looking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 24, 2020 #107 Share Posted August 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ourusualbeach said: After April of 2022, my schedules now full until then. I finally told Laura we have one a month from Nov '21 till April '22🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFerrington Posted August 24, 2020 #108 Share Posted August 24, 2020 I thought about trying to do another L&S to book the 8-nighter on the front side of this one (realizing that it would NOT be another SC suite and that we would have to switch rooms) but I realized that I am going broke saving money !! Best to leave well-enough alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted August 24, 2020 #109 Share Posted August 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, John&LaLa said: I finally told Laura we have one a month from Nov '21 till April '22🤣 And did you share the type of cabin you have or is that a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 24, 2020 #110 Share Posted August 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Ourusualbeach said: And did you share the type of cabin you have or is that a surprise. I told her, I rarely do surprises 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted August 24, 2020 #111 Share Posted August 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, RFerrington said: realized that I am going broke saving money !! Seems to be a common issue these days. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama Justice Posted August 25, 2020 #112 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, John&LaLa said: I swapped a $3200 Empress OS for a $13000 Odyssey OS😉😁 They are definitely mortgaging the future to keep bookings and cash Did they allow you to lift and shift an 8 night Empress western for an 8 night Odyssey Southern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted August 25, 2020 #113 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Alabama Justice said: Did they allow you to lift and shift an 8 night Empress western for an 8 night Odyssey Southern? I don't recall the itinerary off-hand, but both were 8 night trips Looks like both were listed as Southern Edited August 25, 2020 by John&LaLa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted August 25, 2020 #114 Share Posted August 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, Alabama Justice said: Did they allow you to lift and shift an 8 night Empress western for an 8 night Odyssey Southern? 35 minutes ago, Alabama Justice said: Did they allow you to lift and shift an 8 night Empress western for an 8 night Odyssey Southern? Yes, an 8 night Western on NE can be shifted to an 8 night Southern on OY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFerrington Posted August 25, 2020 #115 Share Posted August 25, 2020 In case anyone is interested, the "bait" is back up on the Empress 11-22-20 (6 night Western Caribbean) sailing. The Royal Suite (which I relinquished from my L&S) as well as an Owner's Suite (which wasn't available when I booked the RS) are there. The OS is a particularly good deal (IMO) at ~$1450 PP. So if anyone is interested in a nice OS for next Nov. (probably Thanksgiving week...that's how it worked for me), you can go and book on Empress now and L&S to next year. The bad news is, final payment date has come and gone so if you book this now, you will have to pay in full. Still a good deal though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyrealnameoremail Posted August 25, 2020 #116 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Like others, we are maxed out through April of 2022. Now I'm exploring booking late 2021 and early 2022 Empress sailings. The idea is that if (and this is big triple if) 1) the 2022/2023 cruises are opened for booking late this year, 2) Royal decides to sell Empress and 3) Royal allows L&S into the newly opened cruises, we might end up with nicely priced cruises in late 2022 and early 2023. What do you think. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFerrington Posted August 25, 2020 #117 Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, notmyrealnameoremail said: The idea is that if (and this is big triple if) 1) the 2022/2023 cruises are opened for booking late this year, 2) Royal decides to sell Empress and 3) Royal allows L&S into the newly opened cruises, we might end up with nicely priced cruises in late 2022 and early 2023. Not a bad strategy. The worst that can happen is you get a refund if they offer no other options when they cancel. OF course, you could get stuck with Empress cruises you don't really want if they don't sell her. Actually, the worst that can happen is they go bankrupt and you lose all your money...but we won't go there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyrealnameoremail Posted August 25, 2020 #118 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, RFerrington said: Not a bad strategy. The worst that can happen is you get a refund if they offer no other options when they cancel. OF course, you could get stuck with Empress cruises you don't really want if they don't sell her. Actually, the worst that can happen is they go bankrupt and you lose all your money...but we won't go there... Putting aside a bankruptcy that results in losing money, if I book before September 30, I think Cruise with Confidence would get me an FCC if Empress sails and I cancel. If there is a bankruptcy, I book with a TA in Ontario, so I am covered for that too. Tom Edited August 25, 2020 by notmyrealnameoremail Hit submit too quick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lr657 Posted August 25, 2020 #119 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, notmyrealnameoremail said: Like others, we are maxed out through April of 2022. Now I'm exploring booking late 2021 and early 2022 Empress sailings. The idea is that if (and this is big triple if) 1) the 2022/2023 cruises are opened for booking late this year, 2) Royal decides to sell Empress and 3) Royal allows L&S into the newly opened cruises, we might end up with nicely priced cruises in late 2022 and early 2023. What do you think. Tom I could be wrong, but I believe the option to L&S ends on September 30th. The remaining "Cruise with Confidence" options will continue as an option for cruises that are booked prior to September 30th only. NEW! Lift and Shift - Lift and Shift is for those guests simply wishing to move their existing booking to next year. For CWC guests that are ready to move to an alternative sail date in the following year, we’re happy to price protect the original pricing and/or promotion if the alternative sailing is the same itinerary, length, and stateroom category. However, the alternative sail date that the guest will be moved to, needs to be dated within 4 weeks (before or after) of the original sail date, but for the following year. For example, if you are moving from a July 30, 2020 sailing, you must move to a sailing that is the same itinerary, length, and stateroom category, and the sail date should be June 30th, 2021 – August 30th, 2021. To be eligible, guests must move their booking on or before September 30th, 2020. Edited August 25, 2020 by lr657 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyrealnameoremail Posted August 25, 2020 #120 Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, lr657 said: I could be wrong, but I believe the option to L&S ends on September 30th. The remaining "Cruise with Confidence" options will continue as an option for cruises that are booked prior to September 30th only. You are correct, that's the current rule. Number 3 of my ifs was meant to include Royal Caribbean extending both the time it could be used and allowing L&S into the new cruises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFerrington Posted August 26, 2020 #121 Share Posted August 26, 2020 We just got confirmation that another of our Empress L&S’s was approved. This one is for a move to Symphony for Christmas 2021 in a JS. The original Empress was a NY cruise. This one was easy compared to the last one ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted August 26, 2020 #122 Share Posted August 26, 2020 26 minutes ago, RFerrington said: We just got confirmation that another of our Empress L&S’s was approved. This one is for a move to Symphony for Christmas 2021 in a JS. The original Empress was a NY cruise. This one was easy compared to the last one ! Congrats on your other L&S. You've got some good ones. It sometimes helps and makes a difference to have a very good TA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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