Casino Royale credits

[Tree_skier]

So I'm not a big gambler but have discovered that I enjoy some time in the casino aboard a ship.  My first foray into the casino was on Adventure Dec 2019.  I watched some of the table games but only play the machines.  This last time, on Serenade in August, I spent substantially more time in the Casino.  I played a couple machines but then switched to Blackjack and loved it.  I pushed through substantially more money and spent at least double, maybe triple, the amount of time in the casino.  After the cruise was over I checked my point on clubroyaleoffers.com and it tells me that I have 148 points.  After the cruise back in December 2019 I had accumulated over 200 pts. 

 

How are the points calculated for table games vs machines?  Not that I'm ever going to gamble enough to get to prime but with nine cruises coming over the next eighteen month it might be possible for me to accumulate enough points for some kind of benefit short of prime status.

 

I just want to understand the process.

 

 

Edited September 30, 2021 by Tree_skier

[kwokpot]

Table games earns very little points as compared to slots. Having said that if you enjoy playing table games there's ways to 'game' the system. 

* Chat up the Pit Boss and Dealer. Make sure they know your face and name.

*When you first sit down and hand your card to the Dealer make sure the Pit watching your first few hands and that you see him afterwards enter info into the computer. For this reason you should always play your first few hands with a larger stake, since that's what will be entered into the system as to what you're playing. 

*If you want to play to earn points and status play only slots with your allotted gambling budget. 

 

[Sunshine3601]

6 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

So I'm not a big gambler but have discovered that I enjoy some time in the casino aboard a ship.  My first foray into the casino was on Adventure Dec 2019.  I watched some of the table games but only play the machines.  This last time, on Serenade in August, I spent substantially more time in the Casino.  I played a couple machines but then switched to Blackjack and loved it.  I pushed through substantially more money and spent at least double, maybe triple, the amount of time in the casino.  After the cruise was over I checked my point on clubroyaleoffers.com and it tells me that I have 148 points.  After the cruise back in December 2019 I had accumulated over 200 pts. 

 

How are the points calculated for table games vs machines?  Not that I'm ever going to gamble enough to get to prime but with nine cruises coming over the next eighteen month it might be possible for me to accumulate enough points for some kind of benefit short of prime status.

 

 

I cannot answer your question about table games vs. slots as I typically play slots.   

 

 I do know you earn more points playing slots than table games and a lot of casino people doubt the accuracy of their point total when manually done by the table dealers and pit boss.    

 

To reach prime you need a total of 2500 points in the casino calendar year which runs april 1st thru march 31st.   

   

Let's say you reach 2500 points in December you would then be classified as Prime and be eligible to receive some of the prime perks immediately such as free cocktails, free bottled water, soda while casino bar is open, discounted internet and you would receive a certificate onboard for complimentary cruise.   

 

The following April you would then receive your annual tier cruise that you can use to book a 7 night cruise for 2 in interior (pay casino rate to upgrade cabin) for anywhere in the world.    During that casino calendar year you would receive other casino offers for either free cruises or discounted casino cruises.     Sometimes they even give you Freeplay, we have a couple casino offers with $150 freeplay for casino.

[Sirap]

My understanding is you get 1 point for every $5 spent on the slots. So if you put $50 in a machine and spend it all without winning you earn 10 points. If you win $50 off of that $50 and stop at $50 you still only earn 10 points. If you earned $50 off of the $50 you put in and spend it all then your points would be 20.

 

Table game are based off of your bet per hand and the amount of time you spend at the tables. The more your average bet is the more points you receive. The pit boss comes around on occasion and records your bet amount. I am not sure if it is a 5-1 ratio like the slots or not. You definitely receive less for playing table games then slots if you are a minimum bettor, mainly based on the slowness of table games. 

[Tree_skier]

1 minute ago, kwokpot said:

* Chat up the Pit Boss and Dealer. Make sure they know your face and name.

*When you first sit down and hand your card to the Dealer make sure the Pit watching your first few hands and that you see him afterwards enter info into the computer. For this reason you should always play your first few hands with a larger stake, since that's what will be entered into the system as to what you're playing. 

Are you saying the accumulation of points playing table games is entirely arbitrary and at the discretion of the pit boss?  Does the dealer have any input at all when you hand them the card?

[Sirap]

1 minute ago, Tree_skier said:

Are you saying the accumulation of points playing table games is entirely arbitrary and at the discretion of the pit boss?  Does the dealer have any input at all when you hand them the card?

From my experience, I believe the dealer enters your initial bet when you first sit down but all other adjustments are done by the pit boss.

[kwokpot]

3 minutes ago, Sirap said:

From my experience, I believe the dealer enters your initial bet when you first sit down but all other adjustments are done by the pit boss.

Really? Usually it's always the pit boss.When does the dealer have time to do that? They would have to stop midplay and enter the information. It's always done by the Pitboss.

[kwokpot]

8 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

Are you saying the accumulation of points playing table games is entirely arbitrary and at the discretion of the pit boss?  Does the dealer have any input at all when you hand them the card?

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying. That's why it's very important to be NICE and friendly to ANY Pitboss, sea or land-based. It's how it works in ALL casinos, PERIOD.

*That's why it's also important to TIP your dealer.

*Whenever you notice the pitboss scanning your table, that's when you up your bet. Yes they do occasionally update your betting info. 

*You can always after your play, if it's not busy, ask the Pitboss what your rating is.   

 

[kwokpot]

Here's a great link for the basics on being rated for table games. It's for land based casinos but as I said, ALL casinos, land or sea, work the same way. Good Luck, always have a budget, and don't go over it!

https://www.gamblinggurus.com/gambling-guides/player-ratings-comp-tips/

Edited September 30, 2021 by kwokpot

[kwokpot]

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/question/casino-player-ratings/

[Sirap]

21 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

Really? Usually it's always the pit boss.When does the dealer have time to do that? They would have to stop midplay and enter the information. It's always done by the Pitboss.

I guess I should have made it clearer. By initial bet I meant, when you first are seated and they scan your Sign and Sail card. They then enter your chip buy in and I believe also your first bet. After that is when the pit boss adjusts your average bet. I could be wrong about the initial bet being entered by the dealer. I will let you know next week when I get back from my LOTS cruise.

 

At land based casinos, this is done by the pit boss as you mentioned. 

 

But my point is, that your points are based on your average bet and the amount of time you play.

[kwokpot]

1 minute ago, Sirap said:

By initial bet I meant, when you first are seated and they scan your Sign and Sail card. They then enter your chip buy in and I believe also your first bet.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but when would they have time to enter in your first bet? In roulette you can put down bets until the dealer says no more bets. 

[Sirap]

17 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but when would they have time to enter in your first bet? In roulette you can put down bets until the dealer says no more bets. 

I can see your point about roulette and craps. I know when I sit at a blackjack or three card poker table, the dealer scans my S&S card and enters my seat number as well as my buy in. He/She then proceeds to deal the cards. Like I said before, I am not certain about initial bet. But you would think they would have to enter an initial bet. I have at a table for a while before any pit boss came over to enter my bet amount. I will find out and let you know when I get back from my cruise.🙂

[bajathree]

Just a tip....if your sailing as a couple....pick and choose just one of your sea pass cards and always just use that one card for both of you when you play....you will gain points much faster 😉

[ticketsunlimited]

I almost past out when I saw a lady with 18,000 points with 3 days left to sail last week.  Thats hitting it hard.  Met a lot of players with 14000 plus points the night before departure.  "Free" suites for those players.

[nelblu]

31 minutes ago, bajathree said:

Just a tip....if your sailing as a couple....pick and choose just one of your sea pass cards and always just use that one card for both of you when you play....you will gain points much faster 😉

The only way that you achieve your suggestion is to rotate playing the slots eg: Only one player at the time using the same sea pass.   On land, it's much easier because you can get multiple loyalty cards with the same account number and play different slots , therefore, achieving your suggestion.  But at these casino your sea pass has a different account than your spouse or a friend.

 

By the way to the Op.  I'm not a big gambler and on my Sept. 5 Oasis sail I accumulated some 140 points.  In my cabin on the last night was a coupon for $100 off a next cruise.  The week after  I got home there was a postcard from Casino Royale for a free cruise with 4 different ships an different itineraries of 3-5 nights.  This applied to an interior cabin and covered the period of October-December '21.

 

Before calling Casino Royale, I did some mock bookings and chose a 5 niter on the Navigator sailing on December 4 out of Port Canaveral.  Also, noticed that an balcony cabin was cheaper by $14 than the interior.

Armed with this information, I called Casino Royale to make the reservation and the agent was surprised of the minor price differential  between the cabins .  Plus, on top of the gratis cruise, I was told by CC members that it's also eligible for 2X points.  Since I'm sailing solo, I'm hoping to get 4X points.😆

[ticketsunlimited]

31 minutes ago, nelblu said:

The only way that you achieve your suggestion is to rotate playing the slots eg: Only one player at the time using the same sea pass.   On land, it's much easier because you can get multiple loyalty cards with the same account number and play different slots , therefore, achieving your suggestion.  But at these casino your sea pass has a different account than your spouse or a friend.

 

By the way to the Op.  I'm not a big gambler and on my Sept. 5 Oasis sail I accumulated some 140 points.  In my cabin on the last night was a coupon for $100 off a next cruise.  The week after  I got home there was a postcard from Casino Royale for a free cruise with 4 different ships an different itineraries of 3-5 nights.  This applied to an interior cabin and covered the period of October-December '21.

 

Before calling Casino Royale, I did some mock bookings and chose a 5 niter on the Navigator sailing on December 4 out of Port Canaveral.  Also, noticed that an balcony cabin was cheaper by $14 than the interior.

Armed with this information, I called Casino Royale to make the reservation and the agent was surprised of the minor price differential  between the cabins .  Plus, on top of the gratis cruise, I was told by CC members that it's also eligible for 2X points.  Since I'm sailing solo, I'm hoping to get 4X points.😆

I watched a player with 3 relatives tap his card on three machines at once,  They all played on his at one time. No rotating needed at all.  My wife and I play side by side on my card or her card at once all the time.

[Tree_skier]

5 hours ago, kwokpot said:

if it's not busy, ask the Pitboss what your rating is.

Is your rating the points accumulated or is there rating system other than points accumulated that would be at play here?

[Tree_skier]

5 hours ago, kwokpot said:

*That's why it's also important to TIP your dealer.

So when I was playing Black Jack I was told by another player that it was customary to tip on every Black Jack hand.  I also tipped at the end of each playing session.  Is that the correct way to do it?

[Tree_skier]

5 hours ago, kwokpot said:

Here's a great link for the basics on being rated for table games. It's for land based casinos but as I said, ALL casinos, land or sea, work the same way. Good Luck, always have a budget, and don't go over it!

https://www.gamblinggurus.com/gambling-guides/player-ratings-comp-tips/

Thank you this is great info!

[Tree_skier]

1 hour ago, nelblu said:

The only way that you achieve your suggestion is to rotate playing the slots eg: Only one player at the time using the same sea pass.   On land, it's much easier because you can get multiple loyalty cards with the same account number and play different slots , therefore, achieving your suggestion.  But at these casino your sea pass has a different account than your spouse or a friend.

 

By the way to the Op.  I'm not a big gambler and on my Sept. 5 Oasis sail I accumulated some 140 points.  In my cabin on the last night was a coupon for $100 off a next cruise.  The week after  I got home there was a postcard from Casino Royale for a free cruise with 4 different ships an different itineraries of 3-5 nights.  This applied to an interior cabin and covered the period of October-December '21.

 

Before calling Casino Royale, I did some mock bookings and chose a 5 niter on the Navigator sailing on December 4 out of Port Canaveral.  Also, noticed that an balcony cabin was cheaper by $14 than the interior.

Armed with this information, I called Casino Royale to make the reservation and the agent was surprised of the minor price differential  between the cabins .  Plus, on top of the gratis cruise, I was told by CC members that it's also eligible for 2X points.  Since I'm sailing solo, I'm hoping to get 4X points.😆

Wow that is incredible.

[kwokpot]

25 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

So when I was playing Black Jack I was told by another player that it was customary to tip on every Black Jack hand.  I also tipped at the end of each playing session.  Is that the correct way to do it?

Not necessary after every hand. After several hands or even at the end of your play. 

[kwokpot]

28 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

Is your rating the points accumulated or is there rating system other than points accumulated that would be at play here?

What you're asking for is if they got your Avg bet $amt  + time spent correct, since that's going to determine your points earned based on their formula. So if they tell you they rated you at $25/hand for 3 hours of play and you actually bet more, then you need to bring that up nicely with the pit boss. 

[Sirap]

42 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

So when I was playing Black Jack I was told by another player that it was customary to tip on every Black Jack hand.  I also tipped at the end of each playing session.  Is that the correct way to do it?

When you are playing you can put a chip in front of your bet to tip the dealer if you win. This puts the dealer in the game as well. But that said, most dealers prefer you tip directly without the chance of having to deal a winning hand. 
 

I have put a tip to win pair plus or six card bonus when I played three card poker and it worked out where the dealer won a lot more than if I would have gave him a tip directly. 

[Tree_skier]

14 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

Not necessary after every hand. After several hands or even at the end of your play. 

Sorry I wasn't clear.  Every time I got black jack I was told it was customary to tip... not after every hand.  Sorry I don't think I worded it right.

 

10 minutes ago, kwokpot said:

What you're asking for is if they got your Avg bet $amt  + time spent correct, since that's going to determine your points earned based on their formula. So if they tell you they rated you at $25/hand for 3 hours of play and you actually bet more, then you need to bring that up nicely with the pit boss. 

Thanks, I got that now from one of the links you shared and I appreciate your help.  So it appears I did things all wrong.  When I bought in I bought in with $200 dollars.  Then I bid the minimum ($10) per hand initially and then slowly started raising it.  $15 per hand for a while and then $20 eventually betting $25 per hand as I found my rhythm butt ultimately settling lower bets depending on how lucky I felt.  At the end of the session I pocketed my chips and left.  The next session I just pulled the chips from my last session out of my pocket and started again without any cash buy in.  It would appear I did everything wrong LOL.

 

In my scenario I should have bought in with $500 instead of $200.  I should have started with $25 per hand and then settled on $10 to $15 depending on how lucky I was feeling after 4 or 5 hands.  At the end of the session I should have gone to the cashier and cashed out and began my next session later that night or the following day with a fresh $500 buy in irrespective of winnings or losses and started the whole process again with the higher bets and settled lower after 4 or 5 hands.

 

Am I understanding this correctly?