Star Review 2/5/06

[DougMacP]

Norwegian Star

Mexico Riviera 2/5/06

 

Before I booked the cruise I had concerns. Can a person who loves mid-size ships and “traditional” cruising find happiness going “freestyle” on a large ship? Am I going to miss the set dinner hours and the security of knowing with whom I’m dining each night? Will the service be impersonal and reservations impossible to come by? Will the food in the specialty restaurants be worth the extra money? If you like a review that is one paragraph long the answers are: yes, no, no and definitely yes. If you interested in more detail, read on.

 

I’ve done just under 20 cruises on the major standard, premium and several of the luxury cruise lines. On my last two cruises with Holland America and Celebrity I ended up changing tables because of (how does one say this nicely?) less than desirable tablemates. That is the risk with traditional cruising; bad assigned tablemates can make a cruise a miserable experience. While it’s not the end of the world to move tables, I always felt sort of guilty about it, hiding from the people at my former table the best I could the rest of the cruise. With freestyle I theorized I could control my own destiny, and that of my friend who was a first time cruiser.

 

Embarkation: 40 minutes from drop off to opening the stateroom door. NCL doesn’t do the complete check in at the pier. You are allowed to board by group number into the ship where your credit card information is obtained, picture taken and cruise card is given. There is a bit of a musical chairs quality to this arrangement in reverse. The quicker you get up from where you’re seated when your group number is called the closer to the front of the line you’ll be. Tip: If you have e-docs and didn’t receive luggage tags make sure you get the luggage tags from the pier personnel curb side first thing. Have pre-printed stick-on labels with your name and address so all you have to do is write your stateroom number on the tag.

 

Cabin: Balcony cabin on deck 10. I enjoyed the cabin very much with a few minor issues. It was attractive, well maintained and comfortable. The beds were great and I appreciated the duvets instead of the usual top sheet and blankets. The closets however are bizarre. It is a two door arrangement that gives you a larger hanging area but to access the shelves you have to literally get down on your knees, move any hanging clothes out of the way and reach around the side. I much prefer the three door arrangement where the middle door is the location of the safe and shelves. If you don’t know about the closet light (located in the back behind the closet rod) it would be an impossible arrangement, especially because there are only three other drawers in the cabin.

 

The cabins seem to have soundproofing issues. Perhaps it was because we were blessed with amazingly loud neighbors with children above and beside us. If you leave the balcony door open, be prepared to hear everything! Beyond that, the stateroom creaks and groans (probably from the ceiling panels) which can be quite annoying at night. Tip: Bring ear plugs.

 

Public Areas: The Star is a big ship, no doubt about that, a true floating resort. The lack of a unifying ship theme troubled me at first, but I soon discovered that if you aren’t in a public room to your liking, just keep moving and you’ll find one. There are some beautiful rooms and lounges on the ship, covering almost all design themes. The longer the cruise went on, the more I appreciated the diversity of styles. I also loved the full outside promenade on deck 7, something sadly designed out of other modern cruise ships.

 

What I didn’t appreciate is the pool deck. The two humungous water slides absolutely dominate the area. Not only are they unattractive, but they don’t work! There isn’t enough water flow or steepness for anyone other than the kids to use them. Trust me, I tried. I ended up crawling down one half of the way. The visual impact and atmosphere of the pool area would be greatly enhanced if they were removed. The other gripe is lack of “prime” sun lounging areas. Part of the problem is that they use the entire main deck area by the pool for table and chairs, instead of lounges. Another problem is that many passengers (for lack of a better word) “hog” the chairs. They’ll lie in the sun for an hour or two but leave the towels there all day in case they want to come back later. Many cruise lines handle this by having the deck staff promptly remove the towels unless other personal items (bags, books, etc.) are left with them. I think this would solve a lot of problems, since it’s easier to train the staff then to teach the guests manners.

 

Entertainment: There are three types of entertainment on a ship. Production shows, headliners, and lounge acts. Having worked with a production company in Vegas in the past I learned long ago not to expect too much from the entertainment on a ship, any ship. “Entertainment” is a relative concept, if you think you’ll be seeing a Vegas or Broadway quality show, a famous headliner, or you’ll catch a rising star in the lounge, you’ll only be disappointed. With that said, overall I was very impressed with the Star. When it comes to shipboard entertainment, NCL knows its business.

 

The usual cruise ship production show is heavily lip synced with choreography so amateurish it would work if the ship was in the process of capsizing. Not the case here. The first show Music of the Night, the tribute to Andrew Lloyd Weber was very entertaining, well sung and danced. The second show “It’s Fame” ended up being cancelled half through both shows due to technical issues. What was presented was extremely well done. The last show Cirque Pacific was my least favorite. While I enjoyed the Chinese acrobats very much, the “flying numbers” were done a death defying 10 feet above the stage (gosh!) and the Jean Ann Ryan Company dance numbers looked something like Tai-Kwon-Do meets Jazzercise. In this case less would have been more, just focus on the acrobats. Since it was the night before the end of the cruise they also bring out the Captain and fill the stage with crew members for an inane pandering tribute to themselves about how wonderful they made your cruise experience. Obviously, I was not moved to tears.

 

Also in the main showroom are the obligatory comic and magician (which I missed) and for our cruise the cabaret performer was Lorna Luft, the daughter of Judy Garland, and the far less frantic and famous half sister of Liz Minnelli. She did an abbreviated version of her club act without the benefit of photo and video clips.

NCL really seems to appreciate and understand lounge acts. From the bands to piano players the quality of the performers was surprisingly good. I won’t name names, just wander around and I’m sure you’ll find a room and a performer you enjoy.

 

 

Dinning: NCL is a standard line, with an average outside cabin costing less than $100 per day per person for this cruise. To expect anything other than mass market cruise cuisine is not realistic. In the end, you get what you pay for. But for $15 to $25 per day more you can have a completely different experience. When it came to the specialty restaurants, the Star shines brightly (pun intended). In fact, the dinners were better then on luxury cruises for which I paid more than $300 per day. Shortly after boarding I set up reservations at Le Bistro, Teppanyaki (at Ginza) Soho and Cagney’s for consecutive days. We ended up repeating Ginza twice and did Le Bistro one more time. Each of these restaurants greatly exceeded my expectations for service, food and presentation in a relaxed yet elegant atmosphere. We did have one dinner in the Versailles room, where the food and service was surprising good, certainly comparable with Holland America and Celebrity.

 

We ate most of our breakfasts and lunches at the Market Café, which is the buffet restaurant on deck 12. The food was perfectly acceptable as far as variety, taste and freshness. The Market Café’s problem is the layout. The Café runs the full length on the starboard (right) side, but only half the way on the port, therefore there really isn’t enough space to accommodate the number of people who utilize the room without cramming tables everywhere. It is not a classy room by any stretch of the imagination and the tables and chairs are rather unattractive. Make sure to check out the buffets when they are set up pool side, they have great chicken and ribs.

 

Service: The service staff on the Star is multi-cultural, with Asians and Eastern Europeans being in the majority in the restaurants and lounges. In days gone by some cruise lines would brag that their service staff was predominately Filipino’s (technically Asian in these politically correct times), who came from a “culture of service”. That sort of smiling, gracious and familiar service became the expectation of cruise passengers, and appears to exist to this day. Now you add into the mix Eastern Europeans, who approach service in a less familiar and more formal way. To many they come off as unsmiling, aloof and generally stern. Even when they do their jobs well, the passengers never warm up to them. I certainly agree with a recent review I read about the Star, what passengers may think as “spotty” service, in reality may just be the cultural difference. It was certainly my experience aboard this cruise. My only minor complaint about “service” had to do with the lounges. Be prepared to say “no thank you” a lot if you don’t want a drink. Since the servers roam the various lounges instead of having a set service area you are constantly being asked if you want a beverage, even if you just ordered one from another server. It really bugged me at first, but after awhile I got used to just saying no.

 

Ports: We booked after Acapulco was dropped from the itinerary and were actually grateful about that. With all the recent news reports about gang wars, drive by shootings and general deterioration of the city many passengers felt the same way, besides I’ve been to Acapulco a number of times both by land and sea. NCL offered what I thought were some good and reasonable priced excursions in all the ports, although generally you can always do better at the pier or in town price wise, with the possible exception Manzanillo which does not have organized tourist facilities like the other ports. Personally, I always do my own research before I leave. If you haven’t checked it out http://www.portreview.com do so, it’s a wonderful site

 

Manzanillo: At first glance the downtown looks tiny, but like the tip of an iceberg most of it is hidden from view. I really enjoyed walking into town and exploring the back streets and shops. Manzanillo is a working port town and has one of the highest standards of living and lowest crime rates in Mexico. You are not assaulted by vendors, or children trying to sell “Chiclets”. Speaking a few words of Spanish really helps here, as the town has not gone gaga for tourists (yet). Don’t get me wrong, the people are friendly, it’s just your not the center of their universe. Since NCL does not have recommended vendors here (meaning merchants who pay kickbacks) the Port Guide they provide is completely lacking.

 

Puerto Vallarta: I’ve been to PV more than 10 times, including an extended land based vacation last year. For “beach time” skip the large chain hotels, and head to Playa Los Muertos (beach) in the old section of town also know as the Romance Zone. If you tell the taxi driver to drop you off at the El Dorado Restaurant you’ll be in the heart of things. Just walk up the beach until you find a spot you like, and then let the café personnel know you want to chair. For the cost of some drinks or food you can have a beach chair under a palapa (umbrella) and the best people watching in PV.

 

Mazatlan: On my perpetual least favorite Mexican resort town list. It doesn’t have the sophistication, visual impact and beach environment PV has, or the shopping and glitzy newness of Cabo. Unless you’re looking for diamonds or gemstones skip the tiny over-hyped “Golden Zone”. Tour old town in one of the cute open air taxi’s and save your shopping for the facility right next to the pier. You can get everything there that you could get in town, and actually at better prices.

 

Cabo: The only trouble with Cabo is time, or lack thereof. On almost every cruise I’ve been on the ship has to leave by 2pm to get back to the States. Therefore, Cabo is always a bit of a “rush.” The most Americanized of the Ports, in the Marina area you’ll swear you’re in Southern California (is that a good thing?), complete with a Mall.

 

Cruise Staff and Activities: The Star offers the usually barrage of shipboard activities from Bingo to Trivia hosted by a very competent and charming cruise staff. If you were bored on this cruise you were: (1) anti social, (2) traveling with the wrong person(s), or (3) in need of anti-depressant medication. Make sure to check out the interactive Live at Five call-in show with the Cruise Director, it’s a hoot.

 

Fellow Passengers: The whole gambit, from new born babies to the so to be departed, sophisticated travelers to drunken louts, chiseled fitness enthusiasts to enormous buffet junkies. Truly a bit of everything and everyone.

 

Disembarkation: No need to be out of your cabin at 8:00am like the old days, NCL continues to have a very urbane process for re-entering the world. You can stay in your cabin until your luggage tag color is called then you proceed to the designated lounge where you “clear” customs on the ship, instead of at the Pier. This eliminates the risk of being late off the ship because a person not of US citizenship doesn’t understand announcements and cannot be located, because under the “Pier” system all non US residents were required to clear customs before any US citizens could disembark. While the itinerary said we wouldn’t arrive in Long Beach until 9:00am, we actually were off the ship by then in plenty of time for our flight at 11:20am.

 

In the end: Every time I fill out the little survey cards you get the day before the end of the cruise I always come to the same conclusion; the complete experience is more than the sum of it’s parts. Things can be less than perfect yet I still thoroughly enjoy myself. In the end it won’t matter that a port got changed, or the waitperson trying to anticipate my every need didn’t look completely thrilled while doing it. That’s all small stuff. The big stuff is about completely relaxing and savoring the moment. The freedom of Freestyle dinning, and the quality of the specialty restaurants was the highlight of the cruise for me. This “traditional” mid-size ship lover couldn’t help but appreciate the product the Star offered, and I’m certainly not complaining about the price.

 

DougMacP@aol.com

[marilynd]

Thank you for your great review. Glad that you liked the Star and freestyle cruising. I tried traditional twice and each time missed the choices that I have with NCL.

 

You have me excited because I am on the Star in just 5 more days !!!!!!

[Chipster2]

Thanks for your review. We will be on the Star this October and do appreciate all the information and opinions.

 

Glad to hear that you enjoyed your vacation.

[KroozNut]

Doug..

 

We really appreciated your thoughtful, thorough and most importantly; OBJECTIVE review of the Star. She sounds like a wonderful ship!

 

Happy to hear that you had a good 'Freestyle' experience. We too are 'traditional' cruisers to now, going on our first 'Freestyle' cruise on the Star to Alaska in May. We're really looking forward to experiencing Freestyle for the first time. We were very happy to read your comments on the Ginza restaurant, which is on our list too, as well as Cagney's and Soho.

 

Did you happen to try La Trattoria, and if so, any comments? How is their pizza?

 

Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to post a great review..

[johnql]

Thank you for a thoughtful, balanced review. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.

[little britain]

Wow - pretty much exactly what I was going to write for my review of our 2/13 cruise - think I'll just copy yours!!!!!

[pool girl]

Wow - pretty much exactly what I was going to write for my review of our 2/13 cruise - think I'll just copy yours!!!!!

Thank-you for such an informative review. I really appreciate the tip about the ear plugs. My husband wants to sleep with the balcony door open(weather permitting)so now I know to bring ear plugs. Thanks

[judyf]

Thanks for taking the time to post a review. Very well wriiten. I also love freestyle now that I have tried it and it might be hard going back.

 

Thanks

[DougMacP]

Did you happen to try La Trattoria, and if so, any comments? How is their pizza?

 

La Trattoria is reservation required "included" restaurant, on the port side of the Market Cafe (the buffet). At night they dress it up with tablecloths and chair skirts and a cook to order menu. Didn't eat there but talked to a number of people who did and they enjoyed it very much. Sorry I don't have specific information about their pizza.

[cruiseonly]

Thanks for the review Doug.

 

I am considering the Star for November.

 

I am trying to find a hotel for pre cruise. I read from other reviews that you embark from San Pedro Pier.

 

Is that correct.

 

Can you recommend any hotels that are near the airport and pier.

[seashore]

What a great review! You really describe your experience in a thoughtful and thorough manner. Thank you for your time and expertise.

[Raiderhater]

Thanks for a wonderfull review we sail on the star on Wednesday and looking forward to my 1st cruise ever. I have gotton alot of info from these boards.

 

Thanks

[DougMacP]

Thanks for the review Doug.

 

I am considering the Star for November.

 

I am trying to find a hotel for pre cruise. I read from other reviews that you embark from San Pedro Pier.

 

Is that correct.

 

Can you recommend any hotels that are near the airport and pier.

 

Yes, the Ship leaves from San Pedro. There are only a couple of hotels in San Pedro, but Long Beach is very close. We stayed at the Holiday Inn at Long Beach (on Atlantic Ave) which was very convenient and a very good value. There is also a Hyatt Regency, Marriott and Westin in Long Beach. Check out Travelocity or one of the other online sites for more info. Hope that helps.

[KY Deb]

Thank you so much for a great review. I have organized a group of 8 for the Star in Alaska in May. It has been YEARS since I've sailed with NCL, and we chose the Star more for the itinerary. In the meantime, I'm obsessing about the cruise due to so many comments written about the food quality. I am more at ease after your review. We are planning to eat in several pay restaurants, so I guess we won't starve!!!

[little britain]

Thanks for the review Doug.

 

I am considering the Star for November.

 

I am trying to find a hotel for pre cruise. I read from other reviews that you embark from San Pedro Pier.

 

Is that correct.

 

Can you recommend any hotels that are near the airport and pier.

We stayed in the Coast Long Beach prior to our cruise - were very happy with that - and the cab to the pier cost $25 and took about 10 minutes. Suggest you check out the 'pre and post cruise board' for lots of suggestions. San Pedro looked like a bit of a dump......!

[cruiseonly]

Thanks Doug and little britain for your suggestions.

 

We fly into Los Angeles Airport (LAX).

 

I will check the pre-post cruise forum. Was not aware of it.

 

Thanks Again

[KRANKYK]

Norwegian Star

Mexico Riviera 2/5/06

 

the stateroom creaks and groans (probably from the ceiling panels) which can be quite annoying at night.

 

 

I was on the Star 11/05 and that creaking sound was the only thing I disliked on the cruise. We were on deck 11 in a mini-suite towards the front of the ship and I was actually surprised how irritating it was -- I have to admit, I am a very light sleeper so it may not bother others (it did not bother my husband). :)

[Beedubyah]

Thanks for a wonderfull review we sail on the star on Wednesday and looking forward to my 1st cruise ever. I have gotton alot of info from these boards.

 

Thanks

 

 

Im with you Raiderhater! :)

Ive neveer cruised on a resort ship although Ive spent alot of time on the ocean. The information shared by the many cruisers is invalueble! Their experiences relayed in these posts will help to make my vacation something more special.

Thank You all!:D

BTW Raiderhater, were sailing the Star on 3/1 as well. I'll look forward to tipping a beer and talking about your handle, Raiderhater :confused:

Beedubyah (Bud)

[CRUZIN TOM]

I was also on the 2/5 sailing and in a forwrd 11 floor mini suite. This is a ship, all ships have creaks and groans. If wasn't for this I would think I was in a motel room. this is all part of crusing on a ship. We will be ther again on the Star next year again. Love the mexican shopping.......:)

[Raiderhater]

Beedubyah (Bud)

Sounds great we don't drink beer but a coke or virigin daq will be ok.

Brett and Cynthia:)

[Beedubyah]

Sound slike a plan!

See you on Wednesday Brett & Cynthia :)

Beedubyah (Bud & Mary)

[Raiderhater]

Beedubyah (Bud & Mary)

we will see you on wednesday and we will be at roll call cc mtg on thursday Have a safe trip only 2 days and counting:)

[Host CMLA]

Thank-you for such an informative review. I really appreciate the tip about the ear plugs. My husband wants to sleep with the balcony door open(weather permitting)so now I know to bring ear plugs. Thanks

May I make another suggestion? Instead of ear plugs, which I find irritating to wear while I sleep, I took a white noise machine on the Star for my cruise. I was in room 11598 and it creaked very badly. But my white noise machine drowned it out and I was able to sleep soundly and not have ear plugs in which, by the way, may stop you from hearing your alarm clock or a wake up call. A small clip on desk fan would provide the same type of noise and circulate the air. I've taken both small fans and white noise machines on almost every cruise I've taken.

[Retired not Expired]

May I make another suggestion? Instead of ear plugs, which I find irritating to wear while I sleep, I took a white noise machine on the Star for my cruise. I was in room 11598 and it creaked very badly. But my white noise machine drowned it out and I was able to sleep soundly and not have ear plugs in which, by the way, may stop you from hearing your alarm clock or a wake up call. A small clip on desk fan would provide the same type of noise and circulate the air. I've taken both small fans and white noise machines on almost every cruise I've taken.

 

I've also found many of the ships play elevator music on TV with the bridge cam. I leave this on but very low. Since it is dark out, the screen is black but gives just a little light if you need to get up in the night but adds light in the room when it gets light outside. The low playing music cancels out ship noise including people in the hall.

 

This works great for inside cabins as it gives the illusion of light coming in a window in the morning but I even do it with an oceanview.

[pool girl]

May I make another suggestion? Instead of ear plugs, which I find irritating to wear while I sleep, I took a white noise machine on the Star for my cruise. I was in room 11598 and it creaked very badly. But my white noise machine drowned it out and I was able to sleep soundly and not have ear plugs in which, by the way, may stop you from hearing your alarm clock or a wake up call. A small clip on desk fan would provide the same type of noise and circulate the air. I've taken both small fans and white noise machines on almost every cruise I've taken.

Where would I find a white noise machine? I like the idea of a small fan I will definetly do that.