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5 minutes ago, springaussie said:

Anthem could do Tokyo or Hong Kong!

Another possibility is Australia if the Private Island opens late 2024.

 

Heard from my own sources she's confirmed in SG for the 2024/2025 Season

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18 minutes ago, springaussie said:

Any updates on Utopia!

 

Last i heard, Utopia will debut in UK when she launches initially, not sure for how long though, taking over Anthem. Plans might or might not have changed.

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1 hour ago, Ethanol95 said:

Heard from my own sources she's confirmed in SG for the 2024/2025 Season

Do you think anthem would be suitable for Singapore?

It’s a bit of a step down from Spectrum and it’s a cool climate ship.

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3 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

Do you think anthem would be suitable for Singapore?

It’s a bit of a step down from Spectrum and it’s a cool climate ship.

Spectrum is also mostly a cool climate ship. Other than that, it's roughly the same as Spectrum, and I feel like Anthem would do okay for one season without a major refurb to cater to the Chinese speaking guests from Singapore.

 

With the announcement of Disney homeporting a brand new Disney ship and the largest in the region. Royal is definitely going to lose up by sending Anthem for the coming season, maybe if it's still early they might revise these plans and send Wonder or another O class ship to fight the 208K GT Disney ship.

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2 hours ago, Ethanol95 said:

Last i heard, Utopia will debut in UK when she launches initially, not sure for how long though, taking over Anthem. Plans might or might not have changed.


I doubt that they would replace Anthem with Utopia in 2024, as many Southampton itineraries I don’t think could handle an oasis class (e.g Norway). It could be possible that they homeport both in Southampton, but that’s two really big ships to fill, which I don’t think there really is a market for, especially with only 12 months notice.  
 

If they wanted to debut her in Europe, it would make sense to me to send Oasis to PC on 3/4 nighters and have Utopia take over the Med route for the summer season. Although, Oasis would still be due dry-dock, so they would have to fit that in somewhere. If not, the short sailings gap from PC is the only real opening left, as discussed here already. Obviously not including Asia, which seems unlikely, but not impossible considering Disney’s recent move.
 

 

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1 hour ago, Jumping Cruiser said:


I doubt that they would replace Anthem with Utopia in 2024, as many Southampton itineraries I don’t think could handle an oasis class (e.g Norway). It could be possible that they homeport both in Southampton, but that’s two really big ships to fill, which I don’t think there really is a market for, especially with only 12 months notice.  
 

If they wanted to debut her in Europe, it would make sense to me to send Oasis to PC on 3/4 nighters and have Utopia take over the Med route for the summer season. Although, Oasis would still be due dry-dock, so they would have to fit that in somewhere. If not, the short sailings gap from PC is the only real opening left, as discussed here already. Obviously not including Asia, which seems unlikely, but not impossible considering Disney’s recent move.
 

 

 

DCL doesn't compete with RCI.  What DCL does has limited or no impact. 

 

Show of hands.  How many gamblers sail DCL?   Wait.   Oh yeah.  Right. 

 

New to cruise who are not Disney fans aren't going to be stolen by DCL in Singapore. 

 

Cruisers who want the Disney experience and have the money for it book DCL. 

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So Disney is home porting a ship with no casino in Singapore!? 🤦‍♀️🤣!  I imaging lots of children will want to cruise with the mouse but their parents won’t! 
 

They are leaving it a bit late to launch Utopia itineraries.. many people already booked up for 2024. 

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6 hours ago, twangster said:

 

DCL doesn't compete with RCI.  What DCL does has limited or no impact. 

 

Show of hands.  How many gamblers sail DCL?   Wait.   Oh yeah.  Right. 

 

New to cruise who are not Disney fans aren't going to be stolen by DCL in Singapore. 

 

Cruisers who want the Disney experience and have the money for it book DCL. 

That is what I also believe, but at this point in time. Singapore only has Spectrum and Genting Dream. 

 

If DCL comes, its too big a ship to not take over market share regardless of the different target market. I would say most people who cruise don't only fit one characteristic. IE. are only gamblers. Or only families. etc. 

 

So i expect to see DCL eat up both the other player's shares. 

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1 hour ago, little britain said:

So Disney is home porting a ship with no casino in Singapore!? 🤦‍♀️🤣!  I imaging lots of children will want to cruise with the mouse but their parents won’t! 
 

They are leaving it a bit late to launch Utopia itineraries.. many people already booked up for 2024. 

I think it will have a casino,I haven’t read anything that says it won’t.

It’s not over till the fat mouse sings.

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17 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

I think it will have a casino,I haven’t read anything that says it won’t.

It’s not over till the fat mouse sings.

They have already published there will be no casino onboard. 

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