Beware of Acupuncture onboard

[LAKaye]

On 1/9/2023 at 12:19 PM, billslowsky said:

You can ask first.  Did you actually think that one session was going to be effective?

I first tried acupuncture on the Explorer many years ago.  I had chronic pain in one spot on one side of my upper back.  I was shocked that one session did indeed fix the problem that had hounded me for years - which traditional doctors could not alleviate.  It was amazing.

[ONECRUISER]

On 1/9/2023 at 9:20 AM, JennyB1977 said:

How is someone going to get 30 sessions on a cruise?!

World Cruise!

[Coralc]

9 hours ago, RobinKS said:

You are correct, that's what I meant by rip off. It wasn't advertised that it would require multiple sessions. I was only trying to warn others not to make the same mistake I did, by not doing enough research before.

If your husband is serious about quitting. I am getting to that point. He should try acupuncture, hypnosis or Chantix at home. A vacation is not the best time to try quitting. But thanks for the warning about their sessions. 

[billslowsky]

38 minutes ago, LAKaye said:

I first tried acupuncture on the Explorer many years ago.  I had chronic pain in one spot on one side of my upper back.  I was shocked that one session did indeed fix the problem that had hounded me for years - which traditional doctors could not alleviate.  It was amazing.

I agree with you that one session of acupuncture can bring relief for chronic pain.  It's an excellent alternative to Dr. Feelgood and his opioids.  

 

But even considering that one session would cure smoking?  Not even close to realistic.

[mattg43]

Wait, you thought acupuncture was a cure for a smoking addiction?  

[sblair]

I've found most of the 3rd party services and products that RCI allows to be sold on the ships are rip-offs.  They are entirely based on a captive audience that is unable/unlikely to perform the proper research and full of sales claims that are easy to make knowing they'll never have to see the customer again in person and that most people won't realize they aren't actually dealing with RCI.

[LittleJoefromKokomo]

5 hours ago, sblair said:

I've found most of the 3rd party services and products that RCI allows to be sold on the ships are rip-offs.  They are entirely based on a captive audience that is unable/unlikely to perform the proper research and full of sales claims that are easy to make knowing they'll never have to see the customer again in person and that most people won't realize they aren't actually dealing with RCI.

You are correct, my wife bought a facial cream by the girl giving her a massage and she promised her a "youthful" skin but all that happened was that I was about $70 poorer and my wife had a minimal can of some cream in... I still tease her about that 😂 (But of course I forget to mention my casino losses....)

[DirtyDawg]

15 hours ago, mattg43 said:

Wait, you thought acupuncture was a cure for a smoking addiction?  

Because we all know smoking is a cure for acupuncture addiction. 😁

[ONECRUISER]

2 hours ago, DirtyDawg said:

Because we all know smoking is a cure for acupuncture addiction. 😁

I almost typed same thing, Great Minds...

[Ret MP]

3 hours ago, DirtyDawg said:

Because we all know smoking is a cure for acupuncture addiction. 😁

 

6 minutes ago, ONECRUISER said:

I almost typed same thing, Great Minds...

But, did you both know that it takes more than one pack of smoking cigarettes to cure acupuncture addition.  I've heard that non-filter cuts the amount way down and Menthol even more.  

[DirtyDawg]

18 minutes ago, ONECRUISER said:

I almost typed same thing, Great Minds...

Totally agree.😁

 

But didn't these two think alike too?

 

🤔

 

[teddie]

19 hours ago, billslowsky said:

19 hours ago, mattg43 said:

Wait, you thought acupuncture was a cure for a smoking addiction?  

 

But even considering that one session would cure smoking?  Not even close to realistic.

 

I know that 99.9% of posters here are either rocket scientists or medical practitioners 🙄

 

Best to do one's homework before ridiculing the OP.  Just sayin' that it would be nicer around here if people weren't so quick to criticize....acupuncture CAN help reduce nicotine cravings--not always on its own, and not with everyone.  See some reliable sources cited below.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11676576/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A This study confirms that,and their desire to smoke.

 

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/want-to-quit-smoking-acupuncture-can-help-you-with-cravings/

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6662782/

 

[poocher]

1 minute ago, teddie said:

 

I know that 99.9% of posters here are either rocket scientists or medical practitioners 🙄

 

Best to do one's homework before ridiculing the OP.  Just sayin' that it would be nicer around here if people weren't so quick to criticize....acupuncture CAN help reduce nicotine cravings--not always on its own, and not with everyone.  See some reliable sources cited below.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11676576/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A This study confirms that,and their desire to smoke.

 

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/want-to-quit-smoking-acupuncture-can-help-you-with-cravings/

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6662782/

 

Yes, but would you choose cruise ship acupuncture to test it?  I’m on vacation, hey let’s see if the acupuncture on board will help me quit smoking.  

[billslowsky]

8 minutes ago, teddie said:

 

I know that 99.9% of posters here are either rocket scientists or medical practitioners 🙄

 

Best to do one's homework before ridiculing the OP.  Just sayin' that it would be nicer around here if people weren't so quick to criticize....acupuncture CAN help reduce nicotine cravings--not always on its own, and not with everyone.  See some reliable sources cited below.

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11676576/#:~:text=Conclusions%3A This study confirms that,and their desire to smoke.

 

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/want-to-quit-smoking-acupuncture-can-help-you-with-cravings/

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6662782/

 

Not one if those remotely suggests that one session would cure one of the addiction.  Completely ridiculous premise.

[Longford]

On 1/9/2023 at 11:15 AM, RobinKS said:

Disclaimer, I did not do enough research, prior to purchasing "Quit Smoking" Acupuncture for my husband on our recent Odyssey of the Seas cruise.  He went to his session on Day 3 and was told that "1 session won't provide any benefits" instead, he would need to have between 5 and 30 sessions, at $179 per session.  What a rip off!  

I don't see it as a rip-off.  Rather, I see it as a lesson learned ... by you and your husband.  Ask, research ... before buying services.  But I'm supposing the point of your posting is to suggest the same to others ... look before you leap.  Thank you.

[teddie]

1 hour ago, billslowsky said:

Not one if those remotely suggests that one session would cure one of the addiction.  Completely ridiculous premise.

Of course they don’t suggest that !!
I’m speaking to all who were shocked to hear that acupuncture was a potentially effective treatment for nicotine withdrawal. 

[cruisequeen4ever]

I’m sorry that happened to your husband. I was curious about acupuncture on a cruise as I know locally, I was told it takes 5-11 sessions to notice a difference. 

[Clara H]

Hey, I'm sorry your hubby experienced it. I'm addressing everyone who was astonished to learn that acupuncture might be a useful treatment for skin health.Facial acupuncture using intramuscular stimulation has various advantages, including enhanced skin health, increased circulation, and less inflammation. The face, neck, and scalp are some of the most typical regions to receive acupuncture treatment. Because acupuncture has an impact on numerous bodily organs and systems, it has a wide spectrum of positive effects.Additionally, studies have shown that facial acupuncture can help those with anxiety or insomnia sleep better and with less tension. Facial acupuncture has medicinal benefits, but it also has aesthetic ones, as it frequently produces softer, more youthful-looking skin.

[Arzeena]

I have had a very good experience with acupuncture on board. I am very familiar with acupuncture. MIL was certified and used to practice it. I had the therapy for pain relief on one ship for a few sessions, it worked, continued it at home. I met the same doctor on another ship and had a couple of sessions for something else. Everything was explained at the start, cost, how many sessions on ship, how to continue if needed etc. She gave me a chart to show what was done, which meridians were used, etc, down to the number and type of needles used. Never did any hard selling.

Nothing is relieved in one session, except maybe sea sickness or a pulled muscle. Requires number of sessions and patience.