Single Supplement

[ss101]

Is anyone seeing ANY low single supplements on Princess for 2024? I have gotten 6 long cruises, 12+ days in length, in the last 18 months with Princess with low single supplements, and I don't see anything for 2024. I just got back from 3 months of traveling so I haven't been looking until this week. 

[tonit964]

44 minutes ago, ss101 said:

Is anyone seeing ANY low single supplements on Princess for 2024? I have gotten 6 long cruises, 12+ days in length, in the last 18 months with Princess with low single supplements, and I don't see anything for 2024. I just got back from 3 months of traveling so I haven't been looking until this week. 

I wish but haven’t seen any, in general cruise prices are just really high right now.
 

I’ll ever forget the killer deal I got a year ago November, 7nt on Discovery to Mexico in a Sky deck balcony with Plus, all in $1080.00 total! Now that price is near 3k. 

[john watson]

On 6/3/2023 at 1:35 AM, Coral said:

Who is your source? Seems fishy as last week, a friend couldn't book a cruise as a solo even at 200%.

 

If you are willing to pay 200% single supplement, can you not just book a second person on your booking and tell them at the terminal they are running late knowing they are a no show?

 

Regards John

[ss101]

I met a retired executive on my last month on a long Princess cruise, and this is what he has been doing for years since his wife passed away. He is an Elite and has called and changed names if he is dating anyone just before the sailing. 

[Cruise Raider]

I saw a few for a decent single supplement but nothing like we saw last back in 2022.  
let me see if I can attach the file.  

Solo Offers as of December 4.pdf

Edited December 29, 2023 by Cruise Raider

[Teechur]

In September we went on a 14-day cruise to England, Ireland, Iceland, and Scotland aboard the Island Princess. Initially the single supplement was 200%, then dropped to 106%. Each cabin also came with $600 OBC. We ended up booking 4 cabins for the 4 of us and came out ahead of the price for sharing since we each got $600 in OBC. Adding $250 pp for shareholder credit, $850 each! I walked away from about $75 at the end of the cruise.

[Oceansaway17]

2 hours ago, john watson said:

 

If you are willing to pay 200% single supplement, can you not just book a second person on your booking and tell them at the terminal they are running late knowing they are a no show?

 

Regards John

well try it but you might get a bill for the difference.  It is IMHO a bit dishonest. 

[john watson]

4 minutes ago, Oceansaway17 said:

well try it but you might get a bill for the difference.  It is IMHO a bit dishonest. 

 

Why would you get a bill when a full amount of money has been paid for two passengers and you have turned up.  Princess would need to pursue a legal case with a non-existent person

 

Regards John. 

[Mike07]

4 minutes ago, john watson said:

 

Why would you get a bill when a full amount of money has been paid for two passengers and you have turned up.  Princess would need to pursue a legal case with a non-existent person

 

Regards John. 

 

 

I completely agree. Book a second person like a friend and then say he/she couldn't make it b/c their work supervisor cancelled the vacation. Then, Princess would have to defend the "Sorry, you're SOL because we're too close to sailing" on the refund policy, and then you say, "Great, but I can still make it."

Edited December 29, 2023 by Mike07

[Oceansaway17]

4 minutes ago, john watson said:

 

Why would you get a bill when a full amount of money has been paid for two passengers and you have turned up.  Princess would need to pursue a legal case with a non-existent person

 

Regards John. 

well then the person did not gain anything by booking two people and thus having one not come. 

 

I do not think it is ever a good idea to book someone who in the end won't show up..  Just odd.

 

[Mike07]

14 minutes ago, Oceansaway17 said:

well try it but you might get a bill for the difference.  It is IMHO a bit dishonest. 

 

 

TBH, I'm not terribly worried about Princess or CCL failing b/c people improerly claimed second guests in their stateroom. You can call me dishonest, but you don't know me.

[Mike07]

2 minutes ago, Oceansaway17 said:

well then the person did not gain anything by booking two people and thus having one not come. 

 

I do not think it is ever a good idea to book someone who in the end won't show up..  Just odd.

 

 

 

I find your comments sort of odd. What do you care what other people do? Just odd.

[Oceansaway17]

Just now, Mike07 said:

 

 

TBH, I'm not terribly worried about Princess or CCL failing b/c people improerly claimed second guests in their stateroom. You can call me dishonest, but you don't know me.

 

I guess I don;t understand why somone would even go that route. what is the gain.

Not implying you dishonest but seem stupid thing for anyone to book a person who won't end up going.

[john watson]

Just now, Oceansaway17 said:

well then the person did not gain anything by booking two people and thus having one not come. 

 

I do not think it is ever a good idea to book someone who in the end won't show up..  Just odd.

 

I think you have missed the point when you say the person did not gain anything.  They attempted a booking with just one passenger listed and the cruise line refused to accept the booking.  

 

When suggest it is not a good idea to book someone who in the end wont show up. How confident are you that when you book a cruise that the other passenger wont become sick, have a close relative die, just change their mind etc etc.

 

Regards John.

[Mike07]

3 minutes ago, john watson said:

I think you have missed the point when you say the person did not gain anything.  They attempted a booking with just one passenger listed and the cruise line refused to accept the booking.  

 

 

 

A booking with a single person guarantees no drinks, casino, specialty dining, wine tasting, shore excursions, spa, and other monies generated by a second person 😞

 

We are nothing more than walking dollar signs on any given cruise. 😞

Edited December 29, 2023 by Mike07

[Oceansaway17]

2 minutes ago, john watson said:

I think you have missed the point when you say the person did not gain anything.  They attempted a booking with just one passenger listed and the cruise line refused to accept the booking.  

 

When suggest it is not a good idea to book someone who in the end wont show up. How confident are you that when you book a cruise that the other passenger wont become sick, have a close relative die, just change their mind etc etc.

 

Regards John.

Now that is something I never understood why a booking could be made for 2 and not 1.

I have heard it the other way around trying to book for 2 and only accepting 1 which might have to do with quantity in life boats.

 

I do suppose if I really wanted a ship and it would not take 1 in a booking, I would call and ask why.

[john watson]

5 minutes ago, Mike07 said:

 

 

A booking with a single person guarantees no drinks, casino, specialty dining, wine tasting, shore excursions, spa, and other monies generated by a second person 😞

 

We are nothing more than walking dollar signs on any given cruise. 😞

 

This explains why the cruise wants double occupancy in every cabin as a basic minimum.  This is not my problem if I only drink water from the cabin sink and never go on shore excursions and have a big win in the casino. Same as Mrs. Watson.  Not my concern that we are not spending on board

 

You still have not explained how you have total confidence in your second passenger.

 

Regards John

Edited December 29, 2023 by john watson

[Mike07]

2 minutes ago, Oceansaway17 said:

Now that is something I never understood why a booking could be made for 2 and not 1.

 

 

 

See my aforementioned reasons. If a cruise company could accurately predict spending per passengers, we'd see some interesting things happen on popular itineraries.

[Oceansaway17]

2 minutes ago, Mike07 said:

 

 

A booking with a single person guarantees no drinks, casino, specialty dining, wine tasting, shore excursions, spa, and other monies generated by a second person 😞

 

We are nothing more than walking dollar signs on any given cruise. 😞

aw but there are couples who go on cruises who do not drink, do speciality dining, or shore excursions either.  I have friends like that.  They get the room and then are cheap cheap cheap on the ship.

 

some solos do spend more than folks think.  I am one of them. Either way the cruise line is judging us and I don't like it.

 

would be nice if cuiselines would price point their rooms to make a profit without all the other crap.

But it won't happen because all of them do it.  Once on board, they hope you will cave and spend more.

 

[SCX22]

3 hours ago, ss101 said:

Is anyone seeing ANY low single supplements on Princess for 2024? I have gotten 6 long cruises, 12+ days in length, in the last 18 months with Princess with low single supplements, and I don't see anything for 2024. I just got back from 3 months of traveling so I haven't been looking until this week. 

 

The Future Cruise Desk onboard the Princess ships has a list of sailings with reduced single supplements.  The only reason why I know is because we have a cruise friend that travels solo and we try and be mindful of his budget so he can cruise with us.  Have to admit the majority of the list was for interior cabins to Alaska and had a 25% SS.  One that did catch our eye was the 22 day World Cruise Segment from Dubai to Rome in March 2024.  

[Mike07]

2 minutes ago, Oceansaway17 said:

 Once on board, they hope you will cave and spend more.

 

 

 

That's the entire goal of the cruises at the Princess, HAL, Celebrity, Disney tier and below. It's to get you to spend, spend, spend on board. But, that's a different discussion.

[BobAnne]

I have travelled solo for several years and deeply resent what I dubbed the “Loser Tax.” Why am i paying for twice the food and amenities for my single (yet awesome) self? It’s pure profit for the cruise line for no good reason, IMO.

 

I understand the economics of it - they could sell my cabin to two people and make double the money. But by the same logic they could sell that double occupancy to THREE people and make more money again - so why not charge the couple more money to pay for that unused pull-out couch.

 

I get it - it’s all about corporate greed at the end of the day. But as someone who has paid the loser tax more than once I’d love the opportunity for a tax refund at some point.

[Mike07]

1 minute ago, SCX22 said:

 

The Future Cruise Desk onboard the Princess ships has a list of sailings with reduced single supplements.  The only reason why I know is because we have a cruise friend that travels solo and we try and be mindful of his budget so he can cruise with us.  Have to admit the majority of the list was for interior cabins to Alaska and had a 25% SS.  One that did catch our eye was the 22 day World Cruise Segment from Dubai to Rome in March 2024.  

 

 

When I've asked about this before, it's mostly been the usual west coast Mexico and Caribbean cruises that are a dime a dozen among every other cruise operator.

Edited December 29, 2023 by Mike07

[SCX22]

I think Princess understands the single supplement conundrum more than other cruise lines.  We always book guarantee rooms, not picky about cabin location.  Our friend that books solo guarantee almost always gets an entire category upgrade on Princess.  Us on the other hand, usually only gets a location upgrade.

Edited December 29, 2023 by SCX22

[Oceansaway17]

3 minutes ago, Mike07 said:

 

 

That's the entire goal of the cruises at the Princess, HAL, Celebrity, Disney tier and below. It's to get you to spend, spend, spend on board. But, that's a different discussion.

well they all need to improve their ship shop.  I hate it when they have not magnets, or nice shirts with ship name or hats with ship name.  Merchandising has gone downwards on all ships.