Noordam delayed coming in to NY..PLEASE READ!!

[Mish1]

My parents are on her now. They said that she is going slow but are

by Sandy Hook. My dad said they should be going under the bridge

by 10. Docking at 12.30, could be earlier. Hope that helps.

 

Have Fun.

[Sea King]

Thank you sail7seas for mentioning the crew. Its always a pain for cruisers to have to rearrange thier plans due to a late arrival but most of the Indonesian & Filipino crew have been onboard for a year or more. Hopefully they can also get flights home.

 

U4EA FYI shore leave is not allowed in NY for crew leaving the ship. They have to be taken to the airport and leave the USA before the ship departs.

 

well put Bishop and S7S

 

everyone but the two of you has concentrated on the passengers .. it will be "to say the least" inconvenient for everyone but the those crew leaving will suffer the most .. a missed international flight is much more difficult to deal with than a missed domestic .. as importantly, the crew is deemed "in transit" and therefore is not allowed to "roam about" on US soil

 

this will be a long day for everyone sailing Noordam including the crew that must get the ship ready to leave for the next voyage

[u4ea]

Agreed to last comments, I had no bad intent, and forgot how strict things are, thanks for passing on all the info.

Bon Voyage,:cool:

Mark…

[sail7seas]

Sea King (or anyone) ....

 

IF crew people miss their flights, is sitting in the International Terminal awaiting their rescheduled flight considered to have 'left the U.S.'? Does the ship have to wait to sail until all have actually boarded planes? How would they know who was still in the terminal? I have seen crew members board buses that take them to the airport and have seen them accompanied (presumably in the event they need assistance of some sort)....... Once they have been brought to the airport, does the ship consider they have left the U.S.?

 

What happens to the crew people with tickets which need to be exchanged and there might be an increased charge? Will HAL pay for the difference in their fare? Do they have to bear that burden?

 

I know these are technical questions, probably none of my business and can understand if no one wishes to respond.

[sgttami]

Good Morning

 

Do you know where they where when they found out about being late.

Thank you Johnny Cruise:)

 

Good morning.

 

Sorry, I don't know where they were when she e-mailed only that it was about 1:30PM when the message was sent.

 

The only other comment was, "this is one scary ride."

 

We had a smiliar ride coming back on Explorer of the Seas in October. I can only imagine that since the Noordam is smaller, it must be really be rockin'...

 

Someone else said that they heard that the ship is near Sandy Hook. If that's the case, It could be coming in sooner than 2:00.

 

I'll post if I get any other updates...

 

Pam

[sgttami]

Good Morning

 

Do you know where they where when they found out about being late.

Thank you Johnny Cruise:)

 

Good morning.

 

Sorry, I don't know where they were when she e-mailed only that it was about 1:30PM when the message was sent.

 

The only other comment was, "this is one scary ride."

 

We had a smiliar ride coming back on Explorer of the Seas in October. I can only imagine that since the Noordam is smaller, it must be really be rockin'...

 

Someone else said that they heard that the ship is near Sandy Hook. If that's the case, It could be coming in sooner than 2:00.

 

I'll post if I get any other updates...

 

Pam

[u4ea]

Here she comes, why is her bow digging in?:confused:

Mark

[innlady1]

Here she comes, why is her bow digging in?:confused:

Mark

 

 

Mark,

Where are you finding that web cam?

Thanks!

[innlady1]

[Krazy Kruizers]

It appears that she did make up some time.

[Krazy Kruizers]

Sail

 

you have a good question. I hope that HAL does right by the crew and helps to make other flight arrangements for them and picks up any additional costs of airfare, maybe food and hotel should they have to stay overnight because of flight changes.

[bishop84]

Sea King (or anyone) ....

 

IF crew people miss their flights, is sitting in the International Terminal awaiting their rescheduled flight considered to have 'left the U.S.'? Does the ship have to wait to sail until all have actually boarded planes? How would they know who was still in the terminal? I have seen crew members board buses that take them to the airport and have seen them accompanied (presumably in the event they need assistance of some sort)....... Once they have been brought to the airport, does the ship consider they have left the U.S.?

 

What happens to the crew people with tickets which need to be exchanged and there might be an increased charge? Will HAL pay for the difference in their fare? Do they have to bear that burden?

 

I know these are technical questions, probably none of my business and can understand if no one wishes to respond.

 

If crew have been cleared by CBP before they leave the ship then they are treated as normal in-transit travelers. Should they miss their flight then they can rearrange their flight and wait for it in the lounge. I doubt that a ship would be prevented from sailing in those circumstances. If there are any charges then their company, HAL in this case, would pay upfront. Most cruise companies have accounts with the airlines. However if they deliberately miss their flight I am sure CBP would become involved.

 

If CBP has denied normal clearance, or as in the case of NY, the flight is after the ship has sailed then the crew are required to be escorted to the airport and guarded until their flight departs.

 

Hope this helps!

[innlady1]

That's true...the last report was that it would get in at 2. What a day it will be on the Noordam!

 

BTW, anyone on the 2/7 cruise, please go over to the Roll Call board...we have a great group of folks there! Our Meet & Greet (or, Meet & Mingle!) is scheduled for 2/8 from 10:30 to 11:30 at the Piano Bar.

[spetragl]

Quote:

Originally Posted by u4ea

Here she comes, why is her bow digging in?:confused:

 

 

Where are you finding that web cam?

Thanks!:)

[innlady1]

Quote:

Originally Posted by u4ea

Here she comes, why is her bow digging in?:confused:

 

 

 

Where are you finding that web cam?

Thanks!:)

 

It's at www.wirednewyork.com/webcam3, I believe!

[madelinerose]

Right click on the pic and go to properties to see the site address. ;)

 

Quote:Where are you finding that web cam?

Thanks!:)

[mamaofami]

We are leaving on the Noordam on 2/7 and I've been following today's events in NY. I read that many of the crew are leaving the ship today. Does that mean that the staff will all be new, or that some will be rotated from another ship, or exactly what will happen? It sounded as though people were talking about lots of crew leaving.

 

I'd be curious to know when someone gets the real skinny on why the ship was so late and "why the bow is digging in"?

 

What time did she actually arrive in port, and anyone want to take a gess as to when she will depart? My guess is not much before 7 or 8pm.

 

 

[jeffs55]

It was quite a storm Friday AM, a force 10 gale according to the captain.

There was one system up by Halifax, and another off North Carolina.

Every so often the swells would "sync" and a huge wave would crash into the bow. It was quite a ride.

Great trip overall, very smooth until late Thursday/Early Friday.

About 80 cast and crew are leaving today so there will be some new faces.

[tomc]

Occationally bows will "dig in." For instance, the Titanic.

[Old As Dirt Mom]

Occationally bows will "dig in." For instance, the Titanic.

 

Oh, well thanks Tom, that was reassuring!:D :eek:

 

Karin

[IKE]

So glad to hear You got home safe and sound. That was some storm you people rode thru. Like to hear how You enjoyed your cruise overall. IKE

[RevNeal]

Occationally bows will "dig in." For instance, the Titanic.

 

Tom, here's a bar of soap. Go wash that mouth out. :D :eek:

[jeffs55]

Thanks Ike, I'll post more later when I have time. trying to get laundry done,

errands run dinner cooked (Yikes, I have to cook my own dinner!)

In short for now terriffic ship and crew, no complaints worth mentioning.

Had a wonderfull 10 days.

[innlady1]

We are leaving on the Noordam on 2/7 and I've been following today's events in NY. I read that many of the crew are leaving the ship today. Does that mean that the staff will all be new, or that some will be rotated from another ship, or exactly what will happen? It sounded as though people were talking about lots of crew leaving.

 

I'd be curious to know when someone gets the real skinny on why the ship was so late and "why the bow is digging in"?

 

What time did she actually arrive in port, and anyone want to take a gess as to when she will depart? My guess is not much before 7 or 8pm.

 

Hi mamaofami,

 

I'm curious about the crew, too. Will we have an "all new" crew? I watched the Noordam come in on the webcam and it was about 11:30, if that was accurate.

 

innlady

[innlady1]

Thanks Ike, I'll post more later when I have time. trying to get laundry done,

errands run dinner cooked (Yikes, I have to cook my own dinner!)

In short for now terriffic ship and crew, no complaints worth mentioning.

Had a wonderfull 10 days.

 

Thanks, Jeff. We'll be on the Noordam next time out. Anxious to hear about the trip home. Glad you had a great cruise!