papakaiser Posted April 4, 2008 #101 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Here's a question for everyone to consider: If RCI adopts the policy of charging 3 % for a cash advance fee in the casino because the bank is charging them a percentage on the transaction, what's next ? It's just my opinion, but there is no difference between paying a 3% casino transaction fee, and paying a 3% up-charge when using a credit card for payment on a cruise. Both transactions will cost RCI a bank fee. As previously stated, RCI has accepted this as a cost of doing business. I do not agree with those that withdraw thousands of dollars per cruise at the casino just to get the points on their card. But I also do not agree with paying RCI a fee for getting cash in the casino. If that's a cost they cannot bear any longer, stop the practice. I can't help but think RCI has made far more money by doing this than they have lost, and that is why they still do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakinGold Posted April 4, 2008 #102 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Keep in mind that I never said I was using the cash received from the casino cashier for gambling. Would you still say your comments don't apply to me? 2P.P1 Whatever makes you happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rt1092 Posted April 4, 2008 #103 Share Posted April 4, 2008 After all the Pro's and Con's of doing this. Is the charge in effect for Royal Caribben? I'd like to know. I'm cruising in a week and want to know what to bring money wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambidrummer Posted April 4, 2008 #104 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Well if it is available to ANYONE, it ain't exactly abuse is it? I can also get money from my grocer by using a POS machine and pay no fee. If I go to the ATM, I get charged a fee from the ATM owner and my bank. I exploit that particular loophole ALL the time! It will be interesting to see if this "rumor" is in effect in October, otherwise that will be quite fun over a 15 day cruise. It's not a rumor! I called RCI myself and spoke to a Sara who explained the whole process. RCI just lists the casino as a form of entertainment. Think about it gambling is just entertainment so few people ever really win enough to change their lives. I play just like when I was a kid at the video arcade. $.25 a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rt1092 Posted April 4, 2008 #105 Share Posted April 4, 2008 I just called RCL ans they told me this was only in effect fir Celebrity and Azimara. Not Royal Caribbean yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rancher Dave Posted April 4, 2008 #106 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Yes, I remember that poster, too. He actually stated that he carried FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN CASH HOME WITH HIM. :eek: :eek: :eek: Seems there would be a lot of explaining why one was carrying so much cash with them going thru Customs and Immigrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo70 Posted April 4, 2008 #107 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Maybe the anti-fuel charge crowd can file a complaint if RCL does this as technically they signed an agreement with Mastercard and Visa that they would not impose surcharges on people who use them as a form of payment versus paying in cash. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_K Posted April 4, 2008 #108 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Maybe the anti-fuel charge crowd can file a complaint if RCL does this as technically they signed an agreement with Mastercard and Visa that they would not impose surcharges on people who use them as a form of payment versus paying in cash. ;)The 3% fee would be for getting cash at the casino from your SeaPass card not from your credit card. How you pay off your SeaPass card is at your discretion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffinater Posted April 4, 2008 #109 Share Posted April 4, 2008 We always get cash for tips. So i guess next cruise I will once again exploit the loophole and take advantage of a service that is offered to the passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvufan Posted April 4, 2008 #110 Share Posted April 4, 2008 If you have an OBC or other positive balance in your account, they should not charge a fee for casino withdrawals up to that amount. There is no point in trying to teach a pig to sing-it just frustrates you and annoys the pig. Same with trying to impart a sense of right and wrong. Happy Sails to You OOOEEE:D :D Bob and Phyl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted April 4, 2008 #111 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Really do not think it ever happen. It must be urban myth.That was my impression when I first started reading the thread but the thread's tone has begun to sound as if RCI has already instituted the 3% charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merion_Mom Posted April 4, 2008 #112 Share Posted April 4, 2008 If you have an OBC or other positive balance in your account, they should not charge a fee for casino withdrawals up to that amount. There is no point in trying to teach a pig to sing-it just frustrates you and annoys the pig. Same with trying to impart a sense of right and wrong. Happy Sails to You OOOEEE:D :D Bob and Phyl Perfect timing and perfect wording. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambidrummer Posted April 5, 2008 #113 Share Posted April 5, 2008 OK I just read about Pirates taking over a ship. I won't take out all that cash. I would be way to scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof22 Posted April 5, 2008 #114 Share Posted April 5, 2008 I've been watching this one for a bit with my popcorn. Just felt I had to toss some thoughts in. On one hand I must agree with Flagger, it isn't against the rules. RCI set the rules, he's (or she's) following them. I've seen too many times people saying don't smuggle liquor because it's against the rules and others saying I'll smuggle anyway because something. Flagger is saying he/she (I haven't checked) follows the rules as written. I must agree. On the other hand, I think he/she is breaking the spirit of the rule. The spirit of the rule is that you get cash to gamble, and then gamble with that cash. To me this is kind of like Barry Bonds. I don't believe there was a rule against steroids, but it was definitely against the spirit of rules in baseball. When I go to the casino I get cash on my card to gamble with, but I usually get more than I plan to gamble with. If I sit down at a table with cash I would usually bring out only $40. If I get cash on my seapass I'll get $100, figuring I'd gamble with the 40 and have 60 + winnings (or whatever is left of the 40) to use for tips on or shore. I guess I'm kind of breaking the spirit of the rule too. I guess for me the bottom line is, power to Flagger for following the letter of the rule. I couldn't do it because I feel it is wrong, but at the same time I can't really say he/she is wrong for doing what he/she does. But, I still feel what he/she is doing is wrong. In the end, I don't object. He/she can follow the letter of the rule, I will follow (generally) what I believe to be the spirit of the rule. It doesn't really affect me. If RCI adopts the 3% rule, I'll just bring the cash with me. Doesn't bother me. It tweaks me a little that someone isn't following the spirit of the rule, but that's for Flagger (and others) to look at him/herself in the mirror in the morning, and I don't think he/she has a problem with that. Which I think is a little sad, but that's the world. Basically, whatever, there are more important things to worry about than whether or not someone is following the spirit of a rule. I'd suggest we focus on making sure people follow the actual rules first, then start coming down on people following what the rules want to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaphonie Posted April 6, 2008 #115 Share Posted April 6, 2008 RCI knows that some people get a little extra cash for tips and what not and have not had a problem with it. But it is people like flagger that will take advantage and ruin it for the rest of us. Selfish, all about me attitude I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmshirl Posted April 6, 2008 #116 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Wow! After reading the spirit of the rule ordeal, I choked on my POPCORN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL_Cruiser64 Posted April 7, 2008 #117 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Hi, Karyn! How are you doing?:) Now to my concern - we have a $75 Casino Credit from our TA, a $550 OBC from our RCI VISA and a $90 OBC from the fuel surcharge rebate. I don't really gamble at all....I was really hoping to take $300 out of the Casino early in the cruise and then use possibly $40 in the slots. That should take about five minutes!:rolleyes: I was hoping to use the rest for a private tour we have booked. I don't want to abuse the system, but am not sure we would use up all of those OBC's without doing so. We aren't big drinkers either. If I don't use up the OBC's would I have to lose it, get a credit on my card (and therefore lose double points, or be forced to hit the Shops on Board for stuff I don't really need? OBC = Onboard Credit OBC does nor equal cash for private excursions. I just don't get that people get OBCs as bonus and just feel the need to use it for everything else except for the purpose it was intended to. If the credit card company wanted to gove you cruise spending many they probably would call it CSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambidrummer Posted April 10, 2008 #118 Share Posted April 10, 2008 :D Just got back to land after sailing on Enchantment. Used the cashier in the casino like an ATM. Got cash everyday, some for gambling, and some for spending on land. NO 3% charge!!!!!!!!!! Only problem was that they limited how many $5 bills you could get. The machines pay out in dirty dirty quaters. Wish they went to pay slips like everyone in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagger Posted April 10, 2008 #119 Share Posted April 10, 2008 The Casino on Freedom had TITO slots in January of '07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambidrummer Posted April 10, 2008 #120 Share Posted April 10, 2008 TITO slots What are those?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sea-cruise Posted April 10, 2008 Author #121 Share Posted April 10, 2008 ticket in....ticket out (no coins) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flagger Posted April 10, 2008 #122 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Ticket IN (or cash), Ticket Out. Instead of coins dropping, you get a printed ticket which you can cash at the cage OR they had ATM like machines you stuck in and cash came out. I love TITO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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