ACCIDENT on Mariner of the Seas 03-30-08

[cruiserbryce]

thats terrible...sorry you're vaca was affected....hopefully you are ok now...maybe just a little more care next time you are in one of those areas would combat this happening again

[aqhacruiser]

I'm sorry to hear about the OPs accident. The Explorer has the same type or bridge and floor and I've never felt that it was dangeous. It just sounds like an unfortunate accident.

[Host Mick]

After reading this thread I am truely amazed. These message boards are filled with such an eclectic group. We have the critics,cynics,defenders,offenders, fishers,trolls,suporters, blamers, flamers, abstainers, self proclaimed maritime law experts, self proclaimed cruise ship design experts, the list of special people on here is endless. If it sails with the crown and anchor, just mention the name and 50 "experts" about every aspect of her will descend upon your thread to either demean you or clarify why you are mistaken.

With that being said, I find it an awe inspiring feat that most of you who regularly feel we need your "2 cents" on these boards can enjoy a cruise.

I wish you all peace, happiness and smooth sailing.

P.S. dont bother flaming me, I won't be back on these boards for some time as I can see nothing has changed since I last passed this way.

 

Those look like titles that we could use to replace "Cool Cruiser". I wish that I could.

 

Host Mick

Cool Cynic

[GoodAsGold]

I remember back in '02 when I was on the Star Princess and something like this happened. I had just played the slot machines and had a bucket full of coins. I walked into a show lounge (not the main theater), and as I walked down an aisle to find a seat, I promptly tripped over a small lip on the floor. BOOM! I fell flat on my face (actually my knees) and my coins flew all over the place! Sheesh. A number of people helped pick up the coins and asked if I was okay. I felt like a total fool. :o BUT, I also was in pain. After sitting down, I looked over and noticed an old man trip over the same area, but luckily, didn't fall. The next day I had HUGE bruises on my leg and my knee hurt. I knew it wasn't serious, but I was worried that an older person might really do some damage. I reported it to the main desk. They took a photo of it, took a report from me and I never heard about it again.

 

I got hurt on the Mariner, but not there. The Schooner Lounge has a step up to a second level that juts out. I was chasing after Hubby because he always walks so fast and I can't keep up. So I was looking for him to be sure he didn't get so far ahead that I would lose him. And, whoops, I fell flat on my face having tripped right over the place where that step juts out!

 

I got a lot of bruises on my lower legs, but the greatest pain was sheer embarrassment of falling so clumsily in front of the fully packed lounge. I'll say this though. Not one person came to help me up! I guess they just assumed I was some drunk and didn't want anything to do with me. So I managed to get up, brushed myself off and hurried off to once again chase my Hubby. I know my face was red.

 

I do sympathize with the OP's accident. I've since fallen UP the "glass" stairs of the Centrum on the Jewel of the Seas and tripped over our bedspread on Liberty of the Seas narrowing missing the glass coffee table. I confess to being unusually clutzy, though, on cruise ships.

 

LA Solomon, I hope you recover soon.

[GoodAsGold]

Since I have to wear custom orthotics my options for shoes is limited. I am currently wearing New Balance 621 crosstrainers in Wide width. I could never wear Crocs because not only do they rub on a bone spur on my foot, they don't give the right kind of support my feet need. Besides that, my podiatrist would frown if he saw me wearing those, especially without my orthotics. :eek:

 

 

I'm in the medical field where crocs are abundant. Have a pair as everyone said they were so comfy. About 2 to 3 times per day, I would nearly trip on a flat surface. Horrible horrible shoes. Also, it turns out that they are bad for the feet. Lots of heel spurs popping out, and the first thing the docs say is get rid of the crocs, get a great pair of New Balance, get a great pair of orthotics. The crocs currently occupy a corner of my closet. If the OP is looking for a lawsuit, she will be unhappy. The shoes have a lot of fingers pointing at them for injuries. If she wants something for her carlessness, better to try the shoe company.

[GoodAsGold]

When I went in to see my podiatrist several months ago, he said to GET RID of the my flip-flops! I have hyper pronated feet and those are the worst shoes. He said we have to grip them with our toes to keep them on. Hammer toes can become a problem. In my case, I developed a Morton's neuroma, as well. I have been treated for heel spurs (plantar fasciitis), as well as a bunionectomy, all as a result of having flat feet (pronated.) I have Posterior Tibial Tendon Dysfunction that flares up from time to time.

 

So for me, custom fit orthotics are my only real answer to having healthy feet. I love my Reef flip flops and other sandals, but he said if I didn't want to come in all crippled up years from now, I better pay heed to his advice. And, now I can actually tell the difference when I wear my flip flops for a day. My feet HURT later on and they don't feel as supported. And to think, I used to live in those things!

 

Talk to any podiatrist (I have a couple as clients) and they will go on about how bad and dangerous flips and crocs are for the feet. Absolutely no support and the sliding around on the feet causes problems, such as the op had.

 

They say that they are worse than spike heels because when a woman is wearing spikes she knows they are not steady and pays extra attention to where and how she is walking; not so the crocs which give a false sense of security.

 

And then you have the population that travels wearing crocs and flips with all the stress and danger with everybody using clumsy wheeled luggage, escalators with grooves, unfamiliar floor surfaces, etc. a disaster waiting to happen.

 

Give me sturdy well made sneakers any day.

[Pootle]

We left Port Canaveral on the above date. About 2-3 hrs later, I realized I had lost my SeaPass card in the casino. I went to the Deck 5 Customer Service Desk for a new one.

 

On my way back to my stateroom (deck 10), after leaving the Customer Service Desk on Deck 5 and heading to the elevators I attempted to walk across a 'bridge like wooden structure' that is between the elevators. This structure looks 'flat', but it actually has a slight curvature to it. (up-across-down) (See picture in link) This curvature makes the crossing quite dangerous. It is very easy to slip, trip or fall. That is exactly what I did. The next thing I knew, I was on my back in extreme pain and couldn't get up. The crew members could not get me into a wheel chair and had to call for a stretcher.

 

Through x-rays in the infirmary, they found out my left shoulder was severly dislocated and there was a fracture in the bone. Thankfully the ship's doctor was able to get it back into place, put me in a sling and give me pain medication. Naturally me and my husband's long awaited cruise was ruined.

 

The main reason I'm posting this is to find out if anyone either on that trip or at any time have had a problem with this area on the ship. Everyone that saw my arm in a sling asked about it and after hearing what happened, most of them knew the area I was talking about and had some kind of uncomfortable experience with it.

 

I would appreciate any comments that any of you might have about this area, be they pro or con.

 

Happy and SAFE Crusing!

Linda ( Lsolo33166@aol.com )

 

Th bridge is the same as the one on aos. It's obvious it has a very slight incline, well it was to me anyway. To be honest, it's not like it is a huge gradient anyway. I can see how you might have slipped on the polished wood floor, but tripping on the "hill"??? Unless you legs are only 3" long I can't see how anyone would do that.

 

As a side note, I do hope that you post is not intended to scout for others so that you can sue...

[alwayshappytocruise]

P.S. dont bother flaming me, I won't be back on these boards for some time as I can see nothing has changed since I last passed this way.

 

 

So just keep trollin' along, whinin' your song....bye bye poster

[gailc]

We were on the Brilliance in March. We went to the Hollywood Odyssey & were going to the bar. There is 1 step to get to the bar area. My husband didn't see it & fell on his knees. Later we saw a man who was leaving, & he fell down the step. The people that work there said they have seen many people fall on that step.

 

Gail

[CLQ]

Although there may be a slight curve to the flooring there, I've seen other public areas of ships that appear far more dangerous. I think accidents happen and any of us could find a place to fall no matter how careful the cruiselines might be. I'm afraid that today we've lost touch with the notion that there can be an accident that somebody else isn't at fault for.

 

It's a great lesson for us all to be paying attention where we are. Sorry it came with so much pain attached.

[pcur]

As I stated before, the problem is not necessarily a slippery floor, or step, it's the brain's perception that you are on flat ground when you aren't. Those bridges have such a slight curvature that they are deceiving.

[hoop4321]

I was warned of the evil flip flops as well. I still wear my reefs:p They are a little better. I happened to see one of the docs that I work with, out and about, and guess what he was wearing? I causually slid up to him and said Nice flops Doc! Do as I say, not as I do? He smiled and said nothing...knew he was caught. In his defense he was heading out on his boat, and flops are easier on the deck.

[booze brothers]

We were on the Brilliance in March. We went to the Hollywood Odyssey & were going to the bar. There is 1 step to get to the bar area. My husband didn't see it & fell on his knees. Later we saw a man who was leaving, & he fell down the step. The people that work there said they have seen many people fall on that step.

 

Gail

 

 

Yep, that's a good one. We usually sit at the bar and it never fails, somebody takes a nose dive on that step. I'd say most of the time it happens leaving the bar!!!

[brianep1968]

My mother broke her toe on an older ship called the OceanBreeze in the casino. Between you and I am thinking a few too many White Russians. Her toe was snapped and it was nasty looking, so we pushed her around in a wheel chair for the remainder of the cruise. We got off the ship in Dominica (Love it) She had this idea that she wanted to see that Emerald pool in the rain forest and I was going to push her in the wheel chair to that spot. Well we almost got there when I hit something and I dumped her out face first into the dirt and rocks. I was the idiot and the bastard son (Therapy now). After all of that we get to the Pool, clean the debris off her face and I splashed the water onto my face and dunked my head. I got an amoeba from that pool that made me lose 17 pounds in 2 weeks but easily cured with a pill. The cruise was fabulous though and we loved it.

[nrdsb4]

I never had difficulty with the "bridges"....My problem was walking into a glass door and falling flat on my butt after whacking my forehead.

I hurt my pride.

The grandsons thought it was better than the nightly entertainment. :cool:

 

 

I tripped and fell recently in Europe recently, breaking my wrist. I didn't just trip, I totally bought it. My daughter has gotten more giggles out that event, it's just ridiculous.

 

Sorry to the OP. After reading your post, it makes me wonder if I've also hurt my elbow or my shoulder. Everything still hurts a month later, and no one ever x-rayed my arm or elbow or shoulder because they saw an obvious problem in the wrist. But after a month, I would think my arm/elbow/shoulder should not still be hurting. Hmmmmm....

[FrancescaH]

I am sorry about your accident as I have had plenty over my lifetime, luckily never on ship. I can see how you might be a bit clumsy on that "bridge" which is between the dining room and the promenade if you aren't paying attention. I use a wheelchair on board because of my bad balance and it is enough of a grade that my powerchair rocks a bit between it's main wheels and the support wheels if I have to stop on the sloped sections. But I also watch where I am going and avoid that area if I think I'm going to have to stop mid-slope because of a crowd. You can circle around via the elevator side passages if you aren't comfortable with the slope. I just don't see how the major fault can be placed with RCCL as you have the responsibility to watch where you are going in unfamiliar ground especially when that ground is a deck on a ship sitting on a moving ocean... maybe your sea legs just weren't established yet so your perception and ability to react were off. I'm not sure which EOS you've been on. I'm guessing the Enchantment as if it was the Explorer you should have already known about the slight slope.

[nrdsb4]

After reading this thread I am truely amazed. These message boards are filled with such an eclectic group. We have the critics,cynics,defenders,offenders, fishers,trolls,suporters, blamers, flamers, abstainers, self proclaimed maritime law experts, self proclaimed cruise ship design experts, the list of special people on here is endless. If it sails with the crown and anchor, just mention the name and 50 "experts" about every aspect of her will descend upon your thread to either demean you or clarify why you are mistaken.

With that being said, I find it an awe inspiring feat that most of you who regularly feel we need your "2 cents" on these boards can enjoy a cruise.

I wish you all peace, happiness and smooth sailing.

P.S. dont bother flaming me, I won't be back on these boards for some time as I can see nothing has changed since I last passed this way.

 

Really? It doesn't sound that way to me, LOL.:D

 

Frankly, the list you quoted sounds like a cross section of our society in the real world. It takes all kinds of people to make a world, you know.:)

[mattwright]

If it makes the OP or anybody else feel better, I've stumbled on that bridge on Voyager, Mariner, and Adventure. Everybody who traveled with me on each of those cruises also tripped there at one point or another. It became a running joke for us, but it's certainly not funny when "stumbling" becomes something worse that leads to serious injury.

[ElvisandTracey]

I have been on Navigator and Voyager, and never had a problem, and I was really careful this last time on Voyager because of my non-stop 3 year old who likes to run everywhere. But I didn't have any problems with this "bridge".

 

Sometimes people just fall. Last winter my mom fell down the stairs in her friend's restaurant in NY, came home from New Years in a cast (broke her ankle)!! Also tweaked her shoulder trying to catch herself. She was fine, but you just never know.:eek:

[Pomperaugrr]

We've never seen a problem after 4 cruises on Voyager class ships. The curvature of the hand rail clearly shows the slight slope. I did not see any inherent dangers in the design of that bridge, nor did we see anyone else have any mishaps. There is so much to see in that area, I can understand where a person might get distracted.

 

I hope you feel better soon.

 

Eric

[jules815]

Yes, I know the spot, and I have tripped (but not fallen) on the slight curve while crossing it. It was one of those "did anyone see that?" embarrassing things. After it happened the first time, I was always careful in that area. I'm really sorry that you fell -- not a good way to start your cruise, but I hope you were able to enjoy it a little bit anyway.

[jules815]

As I stated before, the problem is not necessarily a slippery floor, or step, it's the brain's perception that you are on flat ground when you aren't. Those bridges have such a slight curvature that they are deceiving.

 

That's exactly what it was for me. I was wearing sandals with rubber bottoms, and they didn't move with the curve, and tripped me up that way. Luckily I didn't fall. Now when we go on Mariner again in June, I'm going to remember this post, and be very careful.

[stones902]

We left Port Canaveral on the above date. About 2-3 hrs later, I realized I had lost my SeaPass card in the casino. I went to the Deck 5 Customer Service Desk for a new one.

 

On my way back to my stateroom (deck 10), after leaving the Customer Service Desk on Deck 5 and heading to the elevators I attempted to walk across a 'bridge like wooden structure' that is between the elevators. This structure looks 'flat', but it actually has a slight curvature to it. (up-across-down) (See picture in link) This curvature makes the crossing quite dangerous. It is very easy to slip, trip or fall. That is exactly what I did. The next thing I knew, I was on my back in extreme pain and couldn't get up. The crew members could not get me into a wheel chair and had to call for a stretcher.

 

Through x-rays in the infirmary, they found out my left shoulder was severly dislocated and there was a fracture in the bone. Thankfully the ship's doctor was able to get it back into place, put me in a sling and give me pain medication. Naturally me and my husband's long awaited cruise was ruined.

 

The main reason I'm posting this is to find out if anyone either on that trip or at any time have had a problem with this area on the ship. Everyone that saw my arm in a sling asked about it and after hearing what happened, most of them knew the area I was talking about and had some kind of uncomfortable experience with it.

 

I would appreciate any comments that any of you might have about this area, be they pro or con.

 

Happy and SAFE Crusing!

Linda ( Lsolo33166@aol.com )

 

Sorry about your accident. I have been on Voyager class ships several times and actually caught my foot on the very bridge that you are writing about. Fortunately, I didn't fall or get hurt. It happened because I wasn't paying attention and tend to shuffle. I agree that the area is a bit deceptive if you aren't looking for it.

[emdia43]

After reading this thread I am truely amazed. These message boards are filled with such an eclectic group. We have the critics,cynics,defenders,offenders, fishers,trolls,suporters, blamers, flamers, abstainers, self proclaimed maritime law experts, self proclaimed cruise ship design experts, the list of special people on here is endless. If it sails with the crown and anchor, just mention the name and 50 "experts" about every aspect of her will descend upon your thread to either demean you or clarify why you are mistaken.

With that being said, I find it an awe inspiring feat that most of you who regularly feel we need your "2 cents" on these boards can enjoy a cruise.

I wish you all peace, happiness and smooth sailing.

P.S. dont bother flaming me, I won't be back on these boards for some time as I can see nothing has changed since I last passed this way.

 

 

FYI- it was the OP that started this thread by saying "I would appreciate your comments that any of you might have about this area, be they PRO or CON?

So.....T80- what part of that don't you understand?

[lucky99]

We left Port Canaveral on the above date. About 2-3 hrs later, I realized I had lost my SeaPass card in the casino. I went to the Deck 5 Customer Service Desk for a new one.

 

On my way back to my stateroom (deck 10), after leaving the Customer Service Desk on Deck 5 and heading to the elevators I attempted to walk across a 'bridge like wooden structure' that is between the elevators. This structure looks 'flat', but it actually has a slight curvature to it. (up-across-down) (See picture in link) This curvature makes the crossing quite dangerous. It is very easy to slip, trip or fall. That is exactly what I did. The next thing I knew, I was on my back in extreme pain and couldn't get up. The crew members could not get me into a wheel chair and had to call for a stretcher.

 

Through x-rays in the infirmary, they found out my left shoulder was severly dislocated and there was a fracture in the bone. Thankfully the ship's doctor was able to get it back into place, put me in a sling and give me pain medication. Naturally me and my husband's long awaited cruise was ruined.

 

The main reason I'm posting this is to find out if anyone either on that trip or at any time have had a problem with this area on the ship. Everyone that saw my arm in a sling asked about it and after hearing what happened, most of them knew the area I was talking about and had some kind of uncomfortable experience with it.

 

I would appreciate any comments that any of you might have about this area, be they pro or con.

 

Happy and SAFE Crusing!

Linda ( Lsolo33166@aol.com )

 

Sounds like it was an ACCIDENT. I have been on Navigator and it had one of those cute bridges, no one had any problems. It is very obvious that it has an incline. The wife of a person I used to work with was walking down the steps from the deck above the pool and the steps were wet from a rain shower and she slipped and went tumbling down. Broke her ankle and they tried to just get RCL to reimburse them for the cruise and were unsuccessful. RCL said because she had been drinking she was not being careful. She did have a drink in her hand when she fell. If someone is running with a screwdriver in their hand, they trip and fall and stab themselves in the eye do you sue the screwdriver manufacturer? Just wondering.:o