Woman missing on the Pearl

[GeriatricNurse]

We use walkie talkies to keep in touch on the ship. I am usually the first one up in the morning and I will take one with me, then d/h will let me know when he and the kids are awake.

 

 

Great idea! So do we.

[runnerandme]

My dh and I go our seperate ways on ships some of the time. After dinner we may hit the casino or a show. He may go back to the cabin if he is tired and I will not come back until well after he is asleep. Now if he woke up and saw me not there he MIGHT go looking but would likely wait thinking I am having a good time. So I can see there are scenarios that it would not be unusual for the husband not to report her as missing until the wee hours. He might have looked for her for a while before becoming alarmed. It is a tragedy. My thoughts to the family, crew and wonderful Captain Lars.

[derf5585]

There was just a Coast Guard man on the Today show that said there is an infared tape showing the woman going overboard at around 8pm

 

eventually discovered some recorded tape, the image of a woman going overboard wearing a white bathrobe sometime around 8 o'clock the previous evening. That would be on Christmas night," Capt. Dean Lee of the Seventh Coast Guard District in Miami, Fla., told ABC News.

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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6536500&page=1

[Goldryder]

Looking at this report, Christmas in and around Cancun has not been a happy time at all this year...

 

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=324262&CategoryId=14091

 

And the weather although warm, has been pretty dicey too with strong currents being reported.

[rcacace]

My dh and I go our seperate ways on ships some of the time. After dinner we may hit the casino or a show. He may go back to the cabin if he is tired and I will not come back until well after he is asleep. Now if he woke up and saw me not there he MIGHT go looking but would likely wait thinking I am having a good time. So I can see there are scenarios that it would not be unusual for the husband not to report her as missing until the wee hours. He might have looked for her for a while before becoming alarmed. It is a tragedy. My thoughts to the family, crew and wonderful Captain Lars.

 

Some people are joined at the hip & cannot conceive of doing anything separately. Strange.

It makes for a very boring relationship imo.

[derf5585]

A possibly interesting coincidence did come up late this evening -- earlier this year, a Jennifer Seitz authored an article for Dockwalk.com about the crewmembers staying in shape when working on a cruise ship. No information was given about the author, but the connection between the name and a site designed to be "the essential site for captains and crew" was worth at least a note in passing.

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http://www.dockwalk.com/Essentials/HotTopics.aspx?id=10660

[peanutJMV]

I'm going to say this... I do not see how anyone could just fall overboard. I do not think it is possible unless they are doing something they shouldn't be, like the woman on the Dawn or unless they intentionally jump. The only other way would be for someone to throw them overboard. In May of this year when we got on the Star it was shortly after that lady fell overboard on the Dawn. We went around the Star just seeing where all the railing came up to us and every where it came up to right below my chest. So just guessing, I would say it was at least 4.5 feet high every where we checked. Unless you were extremely tall I don't know how anyone could accidentially fall overboard.

 

 

I said the same thing several times.

Only way I could see someone falling overboard was if the rail broke or a rogue wave.

What a shame.

[bakerintn]

I did a search for Jennifer Seitz and found several people on the Internet with that name. Could be anybody. I did see that several people have said that the missing Jennifer is from Florida and that Seitz is her married name.

[crusinanan]

Bravo. Wonderful idea.

 

I agree, I often wondered how to let the DH know where I am, We will have to think of something like this

[flipflops84]

I have to say I find this very fishy. If the woman went overboard at 8pm I think it's very weird that the hubby didnt report her missing for almost 8 hours. Sure, some people split up from their hubbys and do different things on the ship here and there but... for 8 hours? And, on Christmas?? No, I just dont think that's normal. Whether or not the hubby was involved I find the whole thing disturbing. I agree that people are hearing about other incidences on cruise ships and getting sneaky ideas.

[slotaddict]

I have to say I find this very fishy. If the woman went overboard at 8pm I think it's very weird that the hubby didnt report her missing for almost 8 hours. Sure, some people split up from their hubbys and do different things on the ship here and there but... for 8 hours? And, on Christmas?? No, I just dont think that's normal. Whether or not the hubby was involved I find the whole thing disturbing. I agree that people are hearing about other incidences on cruise ships and getting sneaky ideas.

 

 

I agree, she went overboard at 8PM, therefore the husband went to bed at whatever time and she wasn;t there. I think there is always a rush to judgement, however, if my husband had not seen me from 8pm he would not have gone to bed without knowing where I was. In this case it would have been earlier that the husband didn;t see since she went overboard at 8pm.

[garycarla]

My wife and I are pretty much joined at the hip.

 

But, there have been times when one goes to bed early (tired, drinking, feel bad, etc) and could easily sleep until the next morning before waking and noticing that the other was not there. As many have mentioned, people tend to sleep rather well on a ship due to activities and the motion of the ship, so this is not that strange.

 

 

Possible? Very much so.

Fishy? Maybe - but that is jumping to conclusions for some.

[derf5585]

Cruise Ship With Missing Passenger Returns To Port

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http://www.justnews.com/news/18368970/detail.html?rss=mia&psp=news

[cruisedude135]

Yea, i just got off a few hours ago. i was in a room right across from them(they were in the elevator area deck 11 aft, below the cafe). it started on friday morning.....i was going upstairs to grab a coffee when i noticed that they had the crew going through the room, then when i was coming down they had duck-taped the door shut. and it wasn't until today that they closed the door the the hallways entrance to the elevator lobby. I only saw a glimpse of the hallway when someone when in. there wasn't much, only more crew and investigators. And when we got off, of course the news people were interviewing everyone.

 

 

What i dont get is that for the whole cruise we didnt know anything had happened. and the ship said nothing about anyone being missing.....if they would just tell us some one might find something and also the theory was that she fell overboard right? then how do you fall over that TALL handrail and why didnt the ship stop?

[Suni99]

We thought the passengers knew what was going on? they didnt publicly announce her missing on the ship?

[cruisedude135]

We thought the passengers knew what was going on? they didnt publicly announce her missing on the ship?

 

no, all we had was the news on channel 29 and 30 (cnn & fox)

[cruisedude135]

I just saw the today show report... gee, what a bad "piece" of reporting. The main point is they did see her going over at 8 pm. However, the rest of the report made it sound like it isn't that hard to fall over board..HUH? They did mention that alcohol usually plays a role.... ya think?

 

CC

 

true but as i was saying the hand bar is high, like u really cant fall, but either way the chances that she is still alive are slim, she did fall frm the 11th floor

[CanadianTwosome]

To those who are speculating and calling foul due to the time between when the husband may have last seen his wife and the time he reported her missing, don't jump to conclusions. My husband is much more introverted than I am, and there have been nights on cruises where we have split up right after supper and I haven't come back to the cabin until 3am. I knew where he was and he had a general idea of where I was and no reason to think anything else. Or, what if he was in the casino and thought that it was she who had gone to bed early? Or, what if he had gone to bed ill, possibly even having taken medecine like Gravol which can knock you out? Have I given you reasonable doubt yet? Also, it's a BIG ship. How long do you think he walked looking for her before he started to even get slightly worried?

 

Hey, since we're speculating, I wonder if they could see if she had her lifejacket under her robe... maybe it's all a big insurance scam!! Yeah, I watch too much tv... but really, we know NOTHING except that this woman is missing, so why would this idea be any less likely than the rest? The reality is that it's tragic no matter what happened - and I can't imagine anyone ever knowing the whole truth.

[Leafpeeper]

We were very nervous a couple years ago when we saw a father and his two young daughters climbing the staircase in the back of the ship during rough seas. We also saw a Dad taking his young son for a walk on the upper deck above the pool area during high winds and huge waves last year. It is amazing to see the risks some people take. I just don't understand why. If an adult is willing to take a chance and he/she goes overboard, that's their problem. I just hate to see parents taking chances with their little ones.

 

I can understand why someone who has a terminal illness may decide to end their life at the end of a cruise--never at the beginning.

 

Did anyone read the book about the husband who throws his wife overboard and she survives thanks to a bail of marijuana keeping her afloat. Great story.

[renalrn]

To those who are speculating and calling foul due to the time between when the husband may have last seen his wife and the time he reported her missing, don't jump to conclusions. My husband is much more introverted than I am, and there have been nights on cruises where we have split up right after supper and I haven't come back to the cabin until 3am. I knew where he was and he had a general idea of where I was and no reason to think anything else. Or, what if he was in the casino and thought that it was she who had gone to bed early? Or, what if he had gone to bed ill, possibly even having taken medecine like Gravol which can knock you out? Have I given you reasonable doubt yet? Also, it's a BIG ship. How long do you think he walked looking for her before he started to even get slightly worried?

 

Hey, since we're speculating, I wonder if they could see if she had her lifejacket under her robe... maybe it's all a big insurance scam!! Yeah, I watch too much tv... but really, we know NOTHING except that this woman is missing, so why would this idea be any less likely than the rest? The reality is that it's tragic no matter what happened - and I can't imagine anyone ever knowing the whole truth.

 

You have the same evil mind as I....I immediately thought of an insurance scam. We either don't want to believe that anything bad could've happened or we read too many detective novels.

[bakerintn]

Were they in a balcony cabin?? Sounds like they were.

[cruisedude135]

Were they in a balcony cabin?? Sounds like they were.

yea, right by the elivator lobby aft (back)

[CanadianTwosome]

You have the same evil mind as I....I immediately thought of an insurance scam. We either don't want to believe that anything bad could've happened or we read too many detective novels.

 

Indeed! I just find it so hard to wrap my head around any of the prior speculation... My marriage is great, so no pushing; I can't imagine not wanting to be alive - or doing something that would be so devastating to my loved ones; I don't sleepwalk or use alcohol to excess... but who knows? If we had lost everything we'd worked for in the stock market, maybe we'd conspire to commit fraud!

 

Or maybe I've just read too many detective novels. :)

[MoneyGuy]

When my husband left a shopping area to reboard ahead of me on one cruise, I gave him my watch and told him to leave it in the cabin when he got back on board so that I would know for sure he was on the ship. I was with others cruisers so I did not need my watch. Found my watch in the cabin when I reboarded so I knew my husband was on the ship somewhere - peace of mind for sure!!!

 

The missus and I often carry two-way radios, so if one of us were ever unsure the other was on board we could find out that way.

 

Just wondering one thing: If someone was depressed and wanted to commit suicide, other than it would be very easy why go to the trouble of booking a cruise vacation and doing it there? It seems like a heck of a lot of effort when a mouthful of pills would be far easier. Or run a hose from a tailpipe into a car. I can't imagine wanting to do it on a cruise ship what with all the effort in making the arrangements.

 

I do realize that suicide can be a spur-of-the-moment decision while on board. But I still find it incomprehensible.

[starrian]

We were very nervous a couple years ago when we saw a father and his two young daughters climbing the staircase in the back of the ship during rough seas. We also saw a Dad taking his young son for a walk on the upper deck above the pool area during high winds and huge waves last year. It is amazing to see the risks some people take. I just don't understand why. If an adult is willing to take a chance and he/she goes overboard, that's their problem. I just hate to see parents taking chances with their little ones.

 

I can understand why someone who has a terminal illness may decide to end their life at the end of a cruise--never at the beginning.

 

Did anyone read the book about the husband who throws his wife overboard and she survives thanks to a bail of marijuana keeping her afloat. Great story.

 

I think that would be "Skinny Dip" by the entertaining SoFL author and columnist Carl Hiaasen....