Darthdaddy Posted February 21, 2010 #1 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Help me out, please. What is the "Friends of Dorothy" group that seems to be posted in Freestyle Daly on regular basis? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Haynes Posted February 21, 2010 #2 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Friends of Dorothy are alcoholics anomymous groups. With all the booze aboard, they need their sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seawishes Posted February 21, 2010 #3 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Friends of Bill W is the listing for alcoholics anonymous gatherings. Friends of Dorothy is the listing for gay and lesbian (primarily gay men...Dorothy being the very dated gay icon Judy Garland) gatherings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamrag Posted February 21, 2010 #4 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Friends of Dorothy are alcoholics anomymous groups. With all the booze aboard, they need their sessions. Not saying you are definitely wrong, but my understanding is that Friends of Bill W is that, and the Dorothy thing is a quite different group of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maryfrei Posted February 21, 2010 #5 Share Posted February 21, 2010 No, I don't think so. Friends of Bill W., named for a co-founder of AA I believe, is for AA folks. I believe FOD is for people with other than traditional heterosexual lifestyles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seawishes Posted February 21, 2010 #6 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Maybe not "quite" so different, hamrag. We can't marry in most states...but gays and lesbians can be recovering alcoholics as much as we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Turtles06 Posted February 21, 2010 #7 Share Posted February 21, 2010 Friends of Bill W is the listing for alcoholics anonymous gatherings. Friends of Dorothy is the listing for gay and lesbian (primarily gay men...Dorothy being the very dated gay icon Judy Garland) gatherings. This is correct, particularly the word "dated" as applied to FOD. As a gay traveler, I see no reason for NCL to continue to use "code" or a "closet" name for these socials. Most non-Americans have no clue what Friends of Dorothy means, and most Americans below the age of 40, or maybe even 30, have no idea either. In fact, it's probably safe to say that except for American gay men who are late middle aged and older, most gay people are clueless about this, and hence have no idea these socials are going on. I've previously suggested to NCL that they use the term LGBT, but so far that's gone nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyfi Posted February 21, 2010 #8 Share Posted February 21, 2010 I have seen princes use both friends of Dorothy and Friends of Dorothy GLBTQ so perhaps they are ahead of the game. Sad that there needs to be "code" of any kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peg013 Posted February 21, 2010 #9 Share Posted February 21, 2010 This is correct, particularly the word "dated" as applied to FOD. As a gay traveler, I see no reason for NCL to continue to use "code" or a "closet" name for these socials. Most non-Americans have no clue what Friends of Dorothy means, and most Americans below the age of 40, or maybe even 30, have no idea either. In fact, it's probably safe to say that except for American gay men who are late middle aged and older, most gay people are clueless about this, and hence have no idea these socials are going on. I've previously suggested to NCL that they use the term LGBT, but so far that's gone nowhere. They heard you! On our Gem cruise last month the meeting were noted as Friends of Dorothy, LGBT in our Freestyle Daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scchasgal Posted February 22, 2010 #10 Share Posted February 22, 2010 They heard you! On our Gem cruise last month the meeting were noted as Friends of Dorothy, LGBT in our Freestyle Daily. Was also noted in our cruise a week ago as "Friends of Dorothy - A gathering for our LGBT guests" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjbdtz Posted February 22, 2010 #11 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Friends of Bill W is the listing for alcoholics anonymous gatherings. Friends of Dorothy is the listing for gay and lesbian (primarily gay men...Dorothy being the very dated gay icon Judy Garland) gatherings. There's debate as to who Dorothy is. Some would say Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz, but most would say Dorothy Parker. My favorite Dorothy Parker quote: "I like to have a martini, two at the very most. After three I'm under the table After four, I'm under the host." http://womenshistory.about.com/od/quotes/a/dorothy_parker.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimd909 Posted February 22, 2010 #12 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Here is CC's write-up. http://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=188 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STARFISH*4 Posted February 22, 2010 #13 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Friends of Dorothy, GLBT it was listed this way in our Dec Freestyle aboard the STAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kre8tiv1 Posted February 22, 2010 #14 Share Posted February 22, 2010 maybe not "quite" so different, hamrag. We can't marry in most states...but gays and lesbians can be recovering alcoholics as much as we want. rotflol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthdaddy Posted February 22, 2010 Author #15 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Thanks to all for the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMattT Posted February 22, 2010 #16 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I believe FOD is for people with other than traditional heterosexual lifestyles. Wow... its just waay easier to say "GAY"... "This is my Peter - uh, my *friend* Peter. We just met at the, uh, intersexual... homosection... INTERSECTION!" ~Howard Brackett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnql Posted February 22, 2010 #17 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Wow... its just waay easier to say "GAY"... "This is my Peter - uh, my *friend* Peter. We just met at the, uh, intersexual... homosection... INTERSECTION!" ~Howard Brackett The problem is that it's not limited to gays, hence LGBT - lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Turtles06 Posted February 22, 2010 #18 Share Posted February 22, 2010 They heard you! On our Gem cruise last month the meeting were noted as Friends of Dorothy, LGBT in our Freestyle Daily. Thanks; that's very interesting news. On the Jade last month, it was only "Friends of Dorothy." I wonder if the clarifying "LGBT" was added on the Gem by a savvy Cruise Director. Doesn't seem company wide yet, but maybe we're getting there! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Spirit Posted February 22, 2010 #19 Share Posted February 22, 2010 On the Spirit this month, Friends of Dorothy was listed with LGBT added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovesublime Posted February 22, 2010 #20 Share Posted February 22, 2010 First time I saw FOD and FOB in the Dailies, I thought they were wealthy big wigs with lots of friends and were having special private parties. Now I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnIreland Posted February 22, 2010 #21 Share Posted February 22, 2010 I have seen princes use both friends of Dorothy and Friends of Dorothy GLBTQ so perhaps they are ahead of the game. Sad that there needs to be "code" of any kind. Sorry, I have to ask. What's the for Q ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjbdtz Posted February 22, 2010 #22 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Sorry, I have to ask. What's the for Q ? Assuming you mean "what's the Q for"... it's either Q = queer, or Q = questioning. Fairly standard all-inclusive over-PCness. Basically it's the collective group of isms which have been discriminated against and who have strangely felt that they could get the rest of society past the discrimination by completely obfuscating the issues by banding together with non-related groups. I wish all transgendered people the same acceptance I have enjoyed in my life...but other than that, have pretty much nothing in common with them.....except we're all in LGBT(q) together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted February 22, 2010 #23 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Friends of Dorothy are alcoholics anomymous groups. With all the booze aboard, they need their sessions. nope, Friends of Dorothy is a group for gays and lesbians. You are thinking about Bill W. Nita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmexicoNita Posted February 22, 2010 #24 Share Posted February 22, 2010 This is correct, particularly the word "dated" as applied to FOD. As a gay traveler, I see no reason for NCL to continue to use "code" or a "closet" name for these socials. Most non-Americans have no clue what Friends of Dorothy means, and most Americans below the age of 40, or maybe even 30, have no idea either. In fact, it's probably safe to say that except for American gay men who are late middle aged and older, most gay people are clueless about this, and hence have no idea these socials are going on. I've previously suggested to NCL that they use the term LGBT, but so far that's gone nowhere. I am not sure most really think it needs to be posted either way necessarily, but I do know several gay people including our foster daughter, they all know the term. Anyway we are getting off subject now, the OP just asked a question and has his/her answer. Nita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMattT Posted February 22, 2010 #25 Share Posted February 22, 2010 The problem is that it's not limited to gays, hence LGBT - lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender. Yes, well I suppose its also worth mentioning for the OP that the meetings are not really *limited* to anyone. All are welcome--and the more the merrier. But I dare say if you were going to pick any of the adjectives from LGBT acronym to describe the larger group... "gay" might be the one you'd choose instead of "people of other than traditional heterosexual lifestyle". ("lifestyle" offensiveness aside) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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