Friends of Dorothy

Help me out, please.

What is the "Friends of Dorothy" group that seems to be posted in Freestyle Daly on regular basis?

Thanks.

Friends of Dorothy are alcoholics anomymous groups. With all the booze aboard, they need their sessions.

Friends of Bill W is the listing for alcoholics anonymous gatherings.

Friends of Dorothy is the listing for gay and lesbian (primarily gay men...Dorothy being the very dated gay icon Judy Garland) gatherings.

Friends of Dorothy are alcoholics anomymous groups. With all the booze aboard, they need their sessions.

Not saying you are definitely wrong, but my understanding is that Friends of Bill W is that, and the Dorothy thing is a quite different group of people.

No, I don't think so. Friends of Bill W., named for a co-founder of AA I believe, is for AA folks.

I believe FOD is for people with other than traditional heterosexual lifestyles.

Maybe not "quite" so different, hamrag. We can't marry in most states...but gays and lesbians can be recovering alcoholics as much as we want.

Friends of Bill W is the listing for alcoholics anonymous gatherings.

 

Friends of Dorothy is the listing for gay and lesbian (primarily gay men...Dorothy being the very dated gay icon Judy Garland) gatherings.

This is correct, particularly the word "dated" as applied to FOD.

As a gay traveler, I see no reason for NCL to continue to use "code" or a "closet" name for these socials. Most non-Americans have no clue what Friends of Dorothy means, and most Americans below the age of 40, or maybe even 30, have no idea either. In fact, it's probably safe to say that except for American gay men who are late middle aged and older, most gay people are clueless about this, and hence have no idea these socials are going on.

I've previously suggested to NCL that they use the term LGBT, but so far that's gone nowhere.

I have seen princes use both friends of Dorothy and Friends of Dorothy GLBTQ so perhaps they are ahead of the game. Sad that there needs to be "code" of any kind.

This is correct, particularly the word "dated" as applied to FOD.

 

As a gay traveler, I see no reason for NCL to continue to use "code" or a "closet" name for these socials. Most non-Americans have no clue what Friends of Dorothy means, and most Americans below the age of 40, or maybe even 30, have no idea either. In fact, it's probably safe to say that except for American gay men who are late middle aged and older, most gay people are clueless about this, and hence have no idea these socials are going on.

 

I've previously suggested to NCL that they use the term LGBT, but so far that's gone nowhere.

They heard you! On our Gem cruise last month the meeting were noted as Friends of Dorothy, LGBT in our Freestyle Daily.

They heard you! On our Gem cruise last month the meeting were noted as Friends of Dorothy, LGBT in our Freestyle Daily.

Was also noted in our cruise a week ago as "Friends of Dorothy - A gathering for our LGBT guests"

Friends of Bill W is the listing for alcoholics anonymous gatherings.

 

Friends of Dorothy is the listing for gay and lesbian (primarily gay men...Dorothy being the very dated gay icon Judy Garland) gatherings.

There's debate as to who Dorothy is.

Some would say Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz, but most would say Dorothy Parker.

My favorite Dorothy Parker quote:

"I like to have a martini, two at the very most.

After three I'm under the table

After four, I'm under the host."

http://womenshistory.about.com/od/quotes/a/dorothy_parker.htm

Here is CC's write-up.

http://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=188

Friends of Dorothy, GLBT

it was listed this way in our Dec Freestyle aboard the STAR

maybe not "quite" so different, hamrag. We can't marry in most states...but gays and lesbians can be recovering alcoholics as much as we want.

rotflol!

Thanks to all for the explanation.

I believe FOD is for people with other than traditional heterosexual lifestyles.

Wow... its just waay easier to say "GAY"...

"This is my Peter - uh, my *friend* Peter. We just met at the, uh, intersexual... homosection... INTERSECTION!" ~Howard Brackett

Wow... its just waay easier to say "GAY"...

 

"This is my Peter - uh, my *friend* Peter. We just met at the, uh, intersexual... homosection... INTERSECTION!" ~Howard Brackett

The problem is that it's not limited to gays, hence LGBT - lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender.

They heard you! On our Gem cruise last month the meeting were noted as Friends of Dorothy, LGBT in our Freestyle Daily.

Thanks; that's very interesting news. On the Jade last month, it was only "Friends of Dorothy." I wonder if the clarifying "LGBT" was added on the Gem by a savvy Cruise Director. Doesn't seem company wide yet, but maybe we're getting there! :)

On the Spirit this month, Friends of Dorothy was listed with LGBT added.

First time I saw FOD and FOB in the Dailies, I thought they were wealthy big wigs with lots of friends and were having special private parties. Now I know.

I have seen princes use both friends of Dorothy and Friends of Dorothy GLBTQ so perhaps they are ahead of the game. Sad that there needs to be "code" of any kind.

Sorry, I have to ask.

What's the for Q ?

Sorry, I have to ask.

 

What's the for Q ?

Assuming you mean "what's the Q for"... it's either Q = queer, or Q = questioning.

Fairly standard all-inclusive over-PCness.

Basically it's the collective group of isms which have been discriminated against and who have strangely felt that they could get the rest of society past the discrimination by completely obfuscating the issues by banding together with non-related groups.

I wish all transgendered people the same acceptance I have enjoyed in my life...but other than that, have pretty much nothing in common with them.....except we're all in LGBT(q) together.

Friends of Dorothy are alcoholics anomymous groups. With all the booze aboard, they need their sessions.

nope, Friends of Dorothy is a group for gays and lesbians. You are thinking about Bill W.

Nita

This is correct, particularly the word "dated" as applied to FOD.

 

As a gay traveler, I see no reason for NCL to continue to use "code" or a "closet" name for these socials. Most non-Americans have no clue what Friends of Dorothy means, and most Americans below the age of 40, or maybe even 30, have no idea either. In fact, it's probably safe to say that except for American gay men who are late middle aged and older, most gay people are clueless about this, and hence have no idea these socials are going on.

 

I've previously suggested to NCL that they use the term LGBT, but so far that's gone nowhere.

I am not sure most really think it needs to be posted either way necessarily, but I do know several gay people including our foster daughter, they all know the term. Anyway we are getting off subject now, the OP just asked a question and has his/her answer.

Nita

The problem is that it's not limited to gays, hence LGBT - lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender.

Yes, well I suppose its also worth mentioning for the OP that the meetings are not really *limited* to anyone. All are welcome--and the more the merrier.

But I dare say if you were going to pick any of the adjectives from LGBT acronym to describe the larger group... "gay" might be the one you'd choose instead of "people of other than traditional heterosexual lifestyle". ("lifestyle" offensiveness aside)