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#41
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Originally posted by sail7seas
I preferf go skip those OTC's and self medication. I drink de beverages.
Not sure why OTC NoJetLag includes Ipecac, which induces vomiting.
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#43
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We flew home from Amsterdam to the East Coast on Tuesday, arriving early afternoon. Today, Sunday, 6 days later, is the first day that I didn't feel as though I walked into a brick wall at 7 p.m. (its almost 9 pm now). So for me, its true that you really need one day for every time zone you cross to recover from jet lag.
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I can stuggle through once I get home. It will be not fun, I’m sure , to return to my job and be so exhausted, but I’ll make it! .
Baggal, how’d you do flying in to Amsterdam? Are you of the opinion that it’s harder flying east to west?



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#45
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Originally posted by OlsSalt
Not sure why OTC NoJetLag includes Ipecac, which induces vomiting.
Homeopathy is strange. I consider it quackery.
#46
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Originally posted by rittsail
I can stuggle through once I get home. It will be not fun, I’m sure , to return to my job and be so exhausted, but I’ll make it! .
Baggal, how’d you do flying in to Amsterdam? Are you of the opinion that it’s harder flying east to west?



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I suffer from jet lag going in both directions. This trip, we were able to check into our hotel room right away and slept for two hours in the morning. That helped a lot since I got very little sleep on the overnight flight. I do find that the negative effects of jet lag last longer coming back from Europe to the U.S. Sorry I can't be more helpful.


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#47
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Perhaps off topic- but a few years ago we flew to Stockholm from Portland, OR. I think we went through San Francisco and Frankfurt- at any rate, a very long trip. When we got in to Stockholm fairly early in the a.m. After getting through customs, etc. it was mid-day by the time we got to our hotel. I was determined to stay up until 10pm or so and then promptly fell asleep on the bed.

Woke up several hour later- hubs still asleep. It was light outside, so I decided to take a walk and look for breakfast. Only problem was is was 9 pm not 9am-- after I figured that out I went back to the room and took a Melatonin (natural sleep aid) and did fine the next day, Got to watch those Scandinavian countries in the evening-- they stay light very late in the summer!
#48
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Originally posted by whogo
Homeopathy is strange. I consider it quackery.
Chamomile tea has long been recommended as a sleep inducing herbal - a regular tea bag would probably deliver the same benefits. Yes the theory behind "homeopathy" has little to back it up other than personal benefit and/or the placebo effect. Something about minutely dilute amounts of known toxins are supposed to create just the opposite effect .

Such as the Ipacac found in this product which is used in regular amounts to induce vomiting, but in a extremely dilute amount this product can then claim to soothe one's stomach according to the principles of homeopathy. But then so does Chamomile tea. A price comparison would be interesting between the two products - the tea bag or the OTC propriatary.
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#49
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An 8 hour flight leaving late afternoon and arriving 8:00am, what a dream flight. Us Aussies do it a bit tougher. Our flight to Fort Lauderdale last month was a 33 hour epic (7 hour lay over in LA). If we go to Europe its not much better.

I used to suffer badly from jet lag but now I just make sure I sleep on the plane. I spends hours with my eyes closed dozing as best I can when my body doesn't really want to be doing that and "wake up" when breakfast is served if landing in the morning. Once I adopted the strategy of applying the sleep pattern of my destination on the plane I haven't had a jet lag problem. In your case I would get up an hour or two early on the morning of your flight to assist sleeping soon after take off and then tough it out the first day at your destination remembering you'll be operating on a few hours short of 8 hours sleep. If you are going to take a pill you might not want/need to get up early on travel day.
#50
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Originally posted by baggal
I suffer from jet lag going in both directions. This trip, we were able to check into our hotel room right away and slept for two hours in the morning. That helped a lot since I got very little sleep on the overnight flight. I do find that the negative effects of jet lag last longer coming back from Europe to the U.S. Sorry I can't be more helpful.


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Coming back your body feels it is five or six hours later than East Coast time, or eight or nine hours than West Coast. What seems to work best westbound is to try to get an hour or two sleep on the plane - and then force yourself to stay up until your normal go-to-bed time.
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#51
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Give me a flat surface and 10 minutes, and I can be asleep in no time. It's a great ability when traveling long distances and many time zones in a short period.


Heading eastbound, which is at night, I doze on the plane, but never get a real sleep. When I get to my hotel, though, first thing is take a nap for 2-3 hours. Then I get up and have a light lunch, check out the area for a few hours, then another nap. By dinner time in my arrival city I want a meal. Then it's an early night, going to bed by 8:30-9:00. By morning, I'm a little groggy, but otherwise fine.

I love westbound home, though. From Europe I get home about 7:00-ish, have a little while to unpack the important things, then get to bed maybe by 10:00, or a little earlier. Next morning, at the usual home time, I waken feeling pretty good.
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#52
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Each of us has a very different internal clock. the more we travel, the more we learn about our own and what works for us individually, After about 8-12 long distance, many time zone flights, we know how best to get our selves adjusted to local time in arrival city,
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#53
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Eastbound is usually the worst for me tho' westbound can seem interminable at times.
I take about 5mg melatonin at bed time for a couple of days, seems to help.
#54
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I find that getting on the destination time as soon as I step on the plane is helpful. I also spring for a business class ticket going eastbound and take a night flight. I skip the drinks and dinner and go right to sleep. Then I wake up in my destination and stay awake until bedtime. Westbound if I’m taking a morning flight I stay awake until I get home (that’s difficult since they shut the lights off on the plane sometimes and everyone else is sleeping) But I get on destination time as soon as I get on the plane.


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I've realized that there is such a thing as 'too short' a long- haul flight, and it's preferable to have one even longer.


Flights of 8, 9, or 10 hours just don't give you time to get a decent rest, whereas flights of 14-16 hours do. On the 'shorter' long flights you have to spend time in line for the flight to take off, then the actual take-off and climbing portion. That can take a while. Then, it's time for drinks and food service. With all the hustle & bustle, it's at least a couple of hours before you can settle down with some sort of peace & quiet.
Then, before you know it, breakfast service begins, and you have to get ready for landing.


But on a much longer flight, you can squeeze in 8 hours of rest between the beginning and end upheaval. Under those circumstances, I know I arrive in much better condition to get to my hotel.
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#56
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Though we often used miles to get first class seats, I just about never sleep on a plane, British Air, first class, sleeper seats and I did n ot fall asleep.
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#57
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I’m back! As predicted by many of your comments, our early morning arrival was a poor choice. We really should have arrived later. Even noontime would have been better. All was well by the next day though and w e were able to fully enjoy ourselves on our tour.
Now coming back was a different story. We are really struggling and both of us feel slightly ill and out of sorts.

It was a learning experience and now we know how to plan our next flights to Europe a little better! Thank you again for all your helpful suggestions!


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#58
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Originally posted by rittsail
That’s exactly what I think I’ll try. I have ambien already, but wasn’t sure when to take it. I’ll definitely try this strategy. The flight times you describe are identical to what we’re taking from Atlanta.


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This works for me, too. Last time we went to Europe, DH thought he'd watch a movie after dinner. Mistake! He was up all night and deranged by morning. I closed my eyes right after dinner and woke up fresh in Rome. Discipline and a sleeping pill.
#59
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Years of business travel. I can fall asleep before wheels up.

Now, going to Europe, I stay up later the night before. Once we get in our room we shower and then go our. Dinner at 7 or so, then we sleep. Next day all is well.
#60
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Originally posted by PCruzer
We rely on a product called "No Jet Lag." It's homeopathic pills that you take every 4 hours on the plane if you are not sleeping. Helps you adjust to the new time zone. By the next day after arrival, we feel fine, which was not the case before we found this product! They used to only be available in the TravelSmith catalog, but now they are more widespread. I believe the last time I purchased them it was through Walmart online.
We use No Jet Lag as well and find that it does help.

Take it at take off, every two hours (if awake) and at landing.

I also find that my feet don't swell on the long flights when I take it.

We discovered it when we were in New Zealand, bought some for the flight home (which is VERY long) and have used it ever since. One time we couldn't find it so didn't have it for the flight and we saw a significant difference.

So, we use it for any flight that takes us through a lot of time zones now.
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