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#41
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Originally posted by JennaMae
At the bar Maltings we hardly saw any college kids and Alan was an amazing bartender!!!


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We must of been there at different times saw many there and the Whiskey bar.
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Originally posted by Florida Cruiser 1965
I am here at the Port and have first hand knowledge from several reliable known NCL sources,...
Do you see the misnomer?

Originally posted by Florida Cruiser 1965
It was a 52yr old woman distraught about family issues. She was drunk but no different than any other cruises that she could have been on and was not the reason of the incident.
Yes, she WAS the reason for the incident.....the overboard incident.

Originally posted by Florida Cruiser 1965
It is a miracle she was found, and alive and leave it at that for the privacy of the family.
You've already given her age, that she was drunk, and why she "fell"....so much for privacy.
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Originally posted by BigBirdie39
Given that it is not spring break for everyone across the country and that this boat was marketed to spring breakers, there is a definite responsibility on behalf of NCL to have let non spring breakers be aware that this ship was marketed as such. My husband and I have been on over 20 ncl cruises, many of them music cruises, and we have never seen anything like this. My kids couldn't even access the pool through the entire duration. My 14 year old tried climbing in to a hot tub at one point and a fight broke out between the spring breakers warranting security to intervene. We couldn't enjoy our balcony because drunken people were screaming "land ahoy" at all hours, smoking weed, blasting music, and throwing things over board. This is in addition to the multiple bathrooms we went in that were laden with vomit.

We had a great time, but are very disappointed in NCL.
THANK YOU for backing me up on that one. Not sure why the other poster didn't see any like that. Perhaps she.... Nevermind.
Originally posted by Cruising4me
Actually.. University of Florida Spring break started March 3rd...

Spring 2018Dates and Deadlines
Holidays No classes :
March 3 - 10: Spring Break

and there were well over 1000 U of F students on board this week...
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#45
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I knew basically the entire time she was not a spring break kid and that the two things were not likely to be related (although maybe she got drunk to deal with the annoyances).
It just was also posted in here. Lessons learned, no idea it was a spring break cruise and now I know no time near spring is safe. Glad no one else died, although I did see a passed out girl being wheel-chaired off the pool deck yesterday. I’m sure there were more. Glad no one died.


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[quote=DarkJedi;55485796]A 52yo woman climbed over the rail from deck 16 down to deck 15 and then over the rail on 15 (I presume headed to 14) because of family issues? What, they told her she couldn't use the elevator?[/q

After going over the rail on 16, below that Deck 15 in that area is floor to ceiling glass with open slats, that could be used to climb down a bit...from the outside of the ship
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Originally posted by DarkJedi
A 52yo woman climbed over the rail from deck 16 down to deck 15 and then over the rail on 15 (I presume headed to 14) because of family issues? What, they told her she couldn't use the elevator?[/q

After going over the rail on 16, below that Deck 15 in that area is floor to ceiling glass with open slats, that could be used to climb down a bit...from the outside of the ship
OK, that at least makes a little bit of sense. Although it sounds more like she was trying to throw herself overboard than being drunk and falling. Most of those rails are way too high for a typical accident.
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Originally posted by JennaMae
We were told (just got off the Epic) the next 4 weeks will be exactly like this cruise, where at least 1/2 of the passengers will be College Kids!


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I have to say, this was my family’s first and last cruise with NCL. We encountered so many logistical issues... now mix in a bunch of drunk kids (from Florida, no less) and the entire trip was more stressful than relaxing. By the time we got off the ship this morning, my husband, 7-year old son and I would have given just about anything to be anywhere but there. What a waste of our hard-earned money. NCL, we gave you a shot. Now Back to Royal Caribbean!
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Originally posted by Florida Cruiser 1965
To all

I am here at the Port and have first hand knowledge from several reliable known NCL sources, that is incident was not "college kids" related or anything to do with spring break and how dare NCL this or that. It was a 52yr old woman distraught about family issues. She was drunk but no different than any other cruises that she could have been on and was not the reason of the incident. I would suggest knowing facts, other than that you were on the cruise before we lay blame. It is a miracle she was found, and alive and leave it at that for the privacy of the family.

http://www.newsweek.com/norwegian-cr...e-835716?amp=1

Newsweek is reporting the passenger as a woman vacationing with her parents who fell while taking a selfie.
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Originally posted by Victorious8
I’m 29 and like to party a lot. Their behavior generally didn’t bother me - it was jus the sheer numbers of them overwhelming things that was frustrating. In the day it was the pools/hot tub and at night it was the casinos etc. I never even attempted to go to Bliss. The bar service was actually as bad as people say it is sometimes (I never experienced that on Escape or Dawn). Many servers/staff would only allow you one drink at a time/per card which isn’t the norm. The only perk was sometimes people thought I was one of them so it made me feel like I looked younger. But then again I think some stuff would purposefully not give us drinks cause they assumed we were with them. I had a great time with my friends but I felt like I had to keep making excuses and explaining it wasn’t like this most of the time. I definitely will never book again anytime close to this. I didn’t realize schools had spring breaks so early. Mine were always around st. Patrick’s day.


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Was this Epic cruise a week long cruise or shorter? I'm about to go on my third spring break cruise on Saturday (Escape) and I've encountered more elementary kids than college-aged spring breakers. I kind of hope to avoid them since I work at a University and it may remind me of work!
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#52
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Originally posted by BigBirdie39
Given that it is not spring break for everyone across the country and that this boat was marketed to spring breakers, there is a definite responsibility on behalf of NCL to have let non spring breakers be aware that this ship was marketed as such. My husband and I have been on over 20 ncl cruises, many of them music cruises, and we have never seen anything like this. My kids couldn't even access the pool through the entire duration. My 14 year old tried climbing in to a hot tub at one point and a fight broke out between the spring breakers warranting security to intervene. We couldn't enjoy our balcony because drunken people were screaming "land ahoy" at all hours, smoking weed, blasting music, and throwing things over board. This is in addition to the multiple bathrooms we went in that were laden with vomit.

We had a great time, but are very disappointed in NCL.
Completely disagree....Its your responsibility to schedule cruises away from High season if you do not want this high energy environment....i.e college spring break, elementary school vacations, etc

Its well known that most all colleges have a week vacation sometime during March. Additionally Grade schools have a week off usually the week before or after Easter. This should be no surprise to anyone!! We have cruised many times in March due to our children...several times we took them out of school because we got a better deal in early to mid March and yes my HS daughters ended up partying with college kids who were very much behaved.
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This cruise was possibly one of the worst experiences my wife and I have ever had while on vacation. This was our first cruise, so we don't have much to compare with. We are told by a lot of people that NCL was the quite cruiseline, compared to Carnival and Royal Caribbean. The shear amount of drunk people (collage aged or other) was intolerable. We are not alcohol drinkers (got that out of our systems long ago) so we just purchased the soda package, but how difficult it was to order a drink was horrible. The bed in our mini suite was horrible, I'd have to say that we have slept on better mattresses at motel 6. And many more issues to add to those. Due to the stress my wife endured on this cruise this may possibly be our first and only cruise. The only cruise we may take in the near future will be a Disney cruise next year with our 3 children. If we decide to ever cruise ourselves again we will be going Princess or Celebrity only. Also as far as this incident with the woman going overboard, I was in the smoking area on Deck 15 when this occurred. She lowered herself from the sundeck on 16 and placed her feet on the pipe that runs along the glass on 15. She lost her footing due to her drunken/high state and how windy it was. I saw this first hand. People did try to reach through the openings of the glass, but we're unable to reach her before she fell. I am thankful she did not die. But from my understanding she will be charged with some kind of crime. Also, as to her age, I did not get a good look at her before she fell, but from what I could see, I'd say she was definitely over the ago of 40 .
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Originally posted by Mistizoom
Was this Epic cruise a week long cruise or shorter? I'm about to go on my third spring break cruise on Saturday (Escape) and I've encountered more elementary kids than college-aged spring breakers. I kind of hope to avoid them since I work at a University and it may remind me of work!
There's two or three weeks this month that epic is doing sat-wed and wed-sat cruises. Which just happened to coincide with a lot of Florida spring breaks and for colleges the epic includes the drink package and for an inside it cost em ~500 each sharing a room for all you can drink.

Not surprising there's a lot of college kids. It's much like the fri-mon cruises out of Canaveral that are party cruises. Way more doable than if epic was a whole week that would cost them prob more than 800 to go.

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#55
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Originally posted by NC4CRUISE
This cruise was possibly one of the worst experiences my wife and I have ever had while on vacation. This was our first cruise, so we don't have much to compare with.
The cruise that you had does NOT represent the typical NCL cruise. As you have probably read, Spring Break is a bad time to cruise unless you are actually on Spring Break and are of that age group.

Originally posted by NC4CRUISE
The bed in our mini suite was horrible, I'd have to say that we have slept on better mattresses at motel 6.
Epic is different from every other NCL ship. Sorry that you didn't enjoy it but there are many posts/videos that describe how "different" Epic is.

Originally posted by NC4CRUISE
Due to the stress my wife endured on this cruise this may possibly be our first and only cruise. The only cruise we may take in the near future will be a Disney cruise next year with our 3 children. If we decide to ever cruise ourselves again we will be going Princess or Celebrity only.
There are many good ships for children on NCL such as Getaway, Breakaway, Escape, Bliss (newest), and Encore (under construction). As for just the 2 of you, Celebrity is currently building Edge which looks to be an excellent ship (other than the goofy Magic Carpet).

Originally posted by NC4CRUISE
Also as far as this incident with the woman going overboard, I was in the smoking area on Deck 15 when this occurred. She lowered herself from the sundeck on 16 and placed her feet on the pipe that runs along the glass on 15. She lost her footing due to her drunken/high state and how windy it was. I saw this first hand. People did try to reach through the openings of the glass, but we're unable to reach her before she fell. I am thankful she did not die. But from my understanding she will be charged with some kind of crime. Also, as to her age, I did not get a good look at her before she fell, but from what I could see, I'd say she was definitely over the ago of 40 .
That doesn't happen on every cruise, trust me.
I hope that your bad experience doesn't completely turn you away from cruising or even from NCL. There are many people here on CC that can give info that would help a novice cruiser avoid some of the problems that you faced.
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Originally posted by NC4CRUISE
This cruise was possibly one of the worst experiences my wife and I have ever had while on vacation. This was our first cruise, so we don't have much to compare with. We are told by a lot of people that NCL was the quite cruiseline, compared to Carnival and Royal Caribbean. The shear amount of drunk people (collage aged or other) was intolerable. We are not alcohol drinkers (got that out of our systems long ago) so we just purchased the soda package, but how difficult it was to order a drink was horrible. The bed in our mini suite was horrible, I'd have to say that we have slept on better mattresses at motel 6. And many more issues to add to those. Due to the stress my wife endured on this cruise this may possibly be our first and only cruise. The only cruise we may take in the near future will be a Disney cruise next year with our 3 children. If we decide to ever cruise ourselves again we will be going Princess or Celebrity only. Also as far as this incident with the woman going overboard, I was in the smoking area on Deck 15 when this occurred. She lowered herself from the sundeck on 16 and placed her feet on the pipe that runs along the glass on 15. She lost her footing due to her drunken/high state and how windy it was. I saw this first hand. People did try to reach through the openings of the glass, but we're unable to reach her before she fell. I am thankful she did not die. But from my understanding she will be charged with some kind of crime. Also, as to her age, I did not get a good look at her before she fell, but from what I could see, I'd say she was definitely over the ago of 40 .
Woe slow it down Newbie. After this first cruise experience, you have some huge courage to even consider going out again.

On your first cruise, being on a ship full of spring break incorrigibles and a witnessing a lady doing a swan drive from deck 15 would easily be enough for 99% of us to Never Go Cruising Again !!

After this first cruise experience, why not try something a bit more upscale?

Unless you are looking for more punishment, No Disney, No NCL, No RCCL. Could give your a great opportunity to experience cruise 3, 4, 5.
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My wife and I told ourselves pretty much the same thing. If something bad is going to happen, it's going to be caused by us be there. Lol. The reason for the Disney cruise is because our children really want to try this cruise. And because of this, we really try to do anything we can for our children, within reason of course. Also, all the instances that occurred on this cruise are probably just circumstanial and do not represent all cruises on NCL. We would just like to enjoy a cruise that's pretty quite and not loaded with lots of college kids and screaming children when it's just my wife and I on vacation without our children .

Originally posted by ShakeDaddy
Woe slow it down Newbie. After this first cruise experience, you have some huge courage to even consider going out again.

On your first cruise, being on a ship full of spring break incorrigibles and a witnessing a lady doing a swan drive from deck 15 would easily be enough for 99% of us to Never Go Cruising Again !!

After this first cruise experience, why not try something a bit more upscale?

Unless you are looking for more punishment, No Disney, No NCL, No RCCL. Could give your a great opportunity to experience cruise 3, 4, 5.
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Originally posted by NC4CRUISE
My wife and I told ourselves pretty much the same thing. If something bad is going to happen, it's going to be caused by us be there. Lol. The reason for the Disney cruise is because our children really want to try this cruise. And because of this, we really try to do anything we can for our children, within reason of course. Also, all the instances that occurred on this cruise are probably just circumstanial and do not represent all cruises on NCL. We would just like to enjoy a cruise that's pretty quite and not loaded with lots of college kids and screaming children when it's just my wife and I on vacation without our children .
While Disney is unlikely due to get many college kids due to the cost, cruises on carnival and royal in the same price point and time will likely have a lot. Like many have said here - the longer the cruise the less kids. Same goes for price - college kids don't have as much money to spend they're likely not to have over a grand to spend if that.

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#59
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Originally posted by drafterdw
oh no, we board on 3/17! We were on a ship the first week on June and I guess a lot of college kids got cruise for graduation....my grandkids could not get in pools or on water slides because of drunk college kids! Glad kids aren't going to be with us.
It probably won't be as bad then.

This week there were 2 major FL schools with spring breaks: University of Florida (who apparently were on a 3- or 4-day weekend cruise that just got back) and University. Next week could be bad as there are 6 major FL schools -- pretty much the rest of them that are big, including the biggest undergrad enrollment which is like 45 minutes drive from the pier at UCF -- with their spring breaks. And a lot of other big schools that didn't already have their breaks as well.

But then the week you're going, 3/17, none of the major FL state schools have their spring breaks. Really, nothing that big nearby. Maybe UMD kids, or University of Arkansas, Clemson, Georgia Tech. They're just not as big. The big schools seemed to be going in the first half of March, so you might've lucked out.
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Originally posted by Mistizoom
Was this Epic cruise a week long cruise or shorter? I'm about to go on my third spring break cruise on Saturday (Escape) and I've encountered more elementary kids than college-aged spring breakers. I kind of hope to avoid them since I work at a University and it may remind me of work!
It was one of the 3- or 4-night cruises.

Epic usually does week long cruises, alternating between Eastern and Western Caribbean itineraries. But the first two weeks in March -- which when ALL the major Florida universities have their spring breaks, along with a number of others, next week actually seems busier than this one -- they switched to alternating 3- and 4-night cruises.

Those 3- and 4-night cruises are going to attract more college kids, or perhaps be targeted to them. It's a shorter cruise, so less money. Looking at the Epic schedule it seems pretty much to target college kids without a lot of money who want to go on short cruises where rooms often have a perk with them, the most popular of which is unlimited drink. Bad luck to cruise at this time. I think in general the 3- and 4-night cruises attract a more "party" crowd.

As someone else posted, your 10+ night itineraries in spring are unlikely to attract college crowds as the kids aren't off school that long.