sammybonny Posted April 9, 2018 #1 Share Posted April 9, 2018 We will be on Britannia next month and this will be our first 7 night cruise. Will one of the 2 formal nights be black and white does anyone know? The cruise personaliser just says 2 black tie nights 5 casual. Thanks Sent from my SM-T580 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the english lady Posted April 9, 2018 #2 Share Posted April 9, 2018 We will be on Britannia next month and this will be our first 7 night cruise. Will one of the 2 formal nights be black and white does anyone know? The cruise personaliser just says 2 black tie nights 5 casual. Thanks Sent from my SM-T580 using Forums mobile app Yes one of the formals will be black and white night. Usually the 2nd formal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmedic Posted April 9, 2018 #3 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Yes one of the formals will be black and white night. Usually the 2nd formal. We also have a seven night aboard Britannia planned and have never done P&O before. Will hubby need a different outfit for the second formal night? He is only just sorted with the black tie not sure this will go down well!:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammybonny Posted April 9, 2018 Author #4 Share Posted April 9, 2018 We also have a seven night aboard Britannia planned and have never done P&O before. Will hubby need a different outfit for the second formal night? He is only just sorted with the black tie not sure this will go down well!:eek:No men dont really wear anything different for black and white night just us ladies, but my husband sometimes wears a black bowtie with white spots.[emoji6] Sent from my SM-T580 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabet Posted April 10, 2018 #5 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I take a white dinner jacket for the black and white night. Makes a change!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaefell Posted April 10, 2018 #6 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Ties of all shapes & colours are worn on all formal nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombatar Posted April 10, 2018 #7 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Always wear a white tux, black wing collar shirt and white bow tie on black and white night. My good lady also wears a combination of black and white but then we both love the formal nights. Peter and Jenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john watson Posted April 10, 2018 #8 Share Posted April 10, 2018 No men dont really wear anything different for black and white night just us ladies, but my husband sometimes wears a black bowtie with white spots.[emoji6] Sent from my SM-T580 using Forums mobile app This presupposes that gentlemen wear a black or white jacket, shirt and tie on formal nights. It is possible on formal nights one might be thinking of wearing a dark blue suit for example. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Selbourne Posted April 11, 2018 #9 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Ties of all shapes & colours are worn on all formal nights But the vast majority of men wear a bow tie on formal nights. Someone new to cruising who just wears any old tie may feel a bit out of place. It’s no real hardship to buy and wear a black bow tie, even if just worn with a regular white shirt and a dark suit (if they don’t wish to buy a dinner suit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Selbourne Posted April 11, 2018 #10 Share Posted April 11, 2018 .....it’s also worth remembering that they are no longer called formal evenings, they are called Black Tie evenings. The clue is in the name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john watson Posted April 11, 2018 #11 Share Posted April 11, 2018 .....it’s also worth remembering that they are no longer called formal evenings, they are called Black Tie evenings. The clue is in the name! The term Black Tie is a distinct dress code with internationally known requirements. The term implies you need to wear a tie of a specific colour but it is more of a general term. P&O outline in detail their requirements for a P&O Black Tie evening. They mention that it is possible to wear a dark lounge or business suit, national dress or a military uniform. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted April 11, 2018 #12 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Wear any colour or type of tie you want. A dark blue suit is fine too, I wear one and nobody comments, even on black and white nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaefell Posted April 11, 2018 #13 Share Posted April 11, 2018 But the vast majority of men wear a bow tie on formal nights. Someone new to cruising who just wears any old tie may feel a bit out of place. It’s no real hardship to buy and wear a black bow tie, even if just worn with a regular white shirt and a dark suit (if they don’t wish to buy a dinner suit). Just returned from Britannia's Transatlantic cruise,4 'Black Tie' nights & the majority of men were certainly NOT wearing black bow ties,as I said in my previous post there was a great variety of tie types & even a great variety of colours among those who chose to wear bow ties. I myself did wear a black bow tie on one of these nights but not on others & certainly didn't feel out of place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denarius Posted April 12, 2018 #14 Share Posted April 12, 2018 You dont need to wear a black tie on a black tie occasion. Black Tie merely means that a dinner jacket is required, as opposed to White Tie which requires a tailcoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentchris Posted April 12, 2018 #15 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Black Tie merely means that a dinner jacket is required, as opposed to White Tie which requires a tailcoat. If you were to turn up to a White Tie event wearing Black Tie kit but with tails you'd look very out of place as there's little in common between the two outfits. https://www.debretts.com/expertise/etiquette/dress-codes/ Cunard have recently lost the plot and renamed 'Formal' and 'Informal (Jacket Required)' to 'Gala Evening' and 'Smart Attire'. P&O would be mad to dumb down their descriptions in the same way, but calling their formal evenings 'Black Tie' isn't helpful because that's not what they really mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandylennon Posted April 13, 2018 #16 Share Posted April 13, 2018 My father in law forgot his suit on our cruise last year, asked what the minimum requirements were for the formal/black tie evenings, we were told as long as he wears a jacket he would be ok. My sons do wear a bow tie for one evening and a normal tie for another. Perhaps instead of the black and white night we could have a "dress up" night. Would be interesting to see what people would wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaefell Posted April 13, 2018 #17 Share Posted April 13, 2018 There were plenty of people in casual dress on Black Tie nights,one of which was a night when comedian Rudi West was on at the Headliners theatre,it least it helped give him some chances to mention it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highpeaklad Posted April 15, 2018 #18 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Black and white night is optional. As long as you have formal dress for the other night you can wear the same and you will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denarius Posted April 15, 2018 #19 Share Posted April 15, 2018 My father in law forgot his suit on our cruise last year, asked what the minimum requirements were for the formal/black tie evenings, we were told as long as he wears a jacket he would be ok. My sons do wear a bow tie for one evening and a normal tie for another. Perhaps instead of the black and white night we could have a "dress up" night. Would be interesting to see what people would wear. P&O have never made it very clear to the uninitiated what Black and White implies. There is an old story of one lady who took it to mean fancy dress and turned up as a fresian cow complete with udders. It is not recorded whether she was admitted to the MDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny wren Posted April 16, 2018 #20 Share Posted April 16, 2018 P&O have never made it very clear to the uninitiated what Black and White implies. There is an old story of one lady who took it to mean fancy dress and turned up as a fresian cow complete with udders. It is not recorded whether she was admitted to the MDR. That is hilarious!!imagine standing in the queue for dinner and a cow appears!!haven't laughed so much for ages Denarius so thanks for that !!!:loudcry::D:D:loudcry::D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraserK Posted April 17, 2018 #21 Share Posted April 17, 2018 First cruise and my hubby is planning on taking his kilt!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaefell Posted April 17, 2018 #22 Share Posted April 17, 2018 He probably won't be alone there,quite a few on Britannia recently! Sent from my SM-T530 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john watson Posted April 17, 2018 #23 Share Posted April 17, 2018 First cruise and my hubby is planning on taking his kilt!!! As a word of warning, on a recent British Isles cruise I noticed two gentlemen wearing kilts. In the atrium area two wives were standing together chatting while the two gentlemen stood together while a number of drinks waiters and waitresses had photographs taken with them on their mobile phones. Probably got served quicker by their new found friends in the days thereafter. Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FraserK Posted April 17, 2018 #24 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Lol!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rettie Posted April 20, 2018 #25 Share Posted April 20, 2018 First cruise and my hubby is planning on taking his kilt!!! My hubby takes his kilt, gets a great reaction! Enjoy the experience of cruising, we went our first to Alaska in 2013 and have done at least one a year since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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