MrPete Posted October 1, 2009 #151 Share Posted October 1, 2009 On all three of my RCI, I have found the same thing. Food & service were not as good as Carnival, IMO. Their ships are beautiful, and by no means were the cruises themselves bad. ( although Splendor was close ) I will still sail RCI because I like the ships, and although the food and service are not as good, they are still not bad! I will tell you that the Radiance class is really nice. I realize everyones experience is different, but I found the same thing. In fact, my first RCCL sailing I kept looking for the things that people said were that much better on RCCL, and realized it wasn't there, but if I kept on looking, I was going to ruin my experience. ANd, yes, RCCL's ships are stunning, but that wears off in about an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planocruiser3 Posted October 1, 2009 #152 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Ah yes, the almighty dollar. Someone is looking to make some money!;) Just trying to protect photo rights. I posted them without his permission so trying to rectify the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPete Posted October 1, 2009 #153 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Just trying to protect photo rights. I posted them without his permission so trying to rectify the situation. Seems they are posted on the Cruise Log site, and credited to the photographer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare xpcdoojk Posted October 1, 2009 #154 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Must be the same guy who (tried) to park beside me at Home Depot last weekend. :mad: The rule of thumb when in a public parking lot is to park where it is most inconvenient. The MINI is never next to the door.:D Finally found a post on this thread that I actually had something to add to. Funny how many posts, previous, didn't.:D jc;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurelius180 Posted October 1, 2009 #155 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The rule of thumb when in a public parking lot is to park where it is most inconvenient. The MINI is never next to the door.:D Finally found a post on this thread that I actually had something to add to. Funny how many posts, previous, didn't.:D jc;) Don't want anyone complaining again. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVALUATOR Posted October 1, 2009 #156 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The rule of thumb when in a public parking lot is to park where it is most inconvenient. The MINI is never next to the door.:D Finally found a post on this thread that I actually had something to add to. Funny how many posts, previous, didn't.:D jc;) Right because size matters. Consider this. If the Enchantment of the Seas and the Carnival Legend became permanently stuck together, the would have combined gross tonnage of 169,200 tonnes. Carry 5113 passengers, and 1690 crew. The Oasis of the Seas would still be 50,800 tons larger, and carry 287 more passengers, and 460 more crew. Another rumor is that RCI will rescind their scissors ban, therefore enabling fellow passengers to defend the ships against Carnival pizza pirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc320 Posted October 1, 2009 #157 Share Posted October 1, 2009 So has there been any more news on the ships themselves??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcl_cruiser Posted October 1, 2009 #158 Share Posted October 1, 2009 OK so where did the pictures go, I would like to see them. I am trying to find out more info and this and look at pictures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moandbo Posted October 1, 2009 #159 Share Posted October 1, 2009 We're supposed to go on Enchantment on Saturday, so my husband called the Crown and Anchor number a few minutes ago to see what they had to say. They told him the damage was minor and that no future cruises will be impacted. Whew!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted October 1, 2009 #160 Share Posted October 1, 2009 LOved that explanation! Friends of Earth...he he he Page 6 for pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcl_cruiser Posted October 1, 2009 #161 Share Posted October 1, 2009 http://blogs.usatoday.com/cruiselog/2009/09/carnival-and-royal-caribbean-cruise-ships-collide-in-cozumel-.html This website gives some info, minor damage and the ships continued on to their next destination which happened to be Belize...for both of them. No injuries reproted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc320 Posted October 1, 2009 #162 Share Posted October 1, 2009 We're supposed to go on Enchantment on Saturday, so my husband called the Crown and Anchor number a few minutes ago to see what they had to say. They told him the damage was minor and that no future cruises will be impacted. Whew!!! Here's hoping it's not another case of call 3 times & get 3 different answers...:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moandbo Posted October 1, 2009 #163 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Here's hoping it's not another case of call 3 times & get 3 different answers...:eek: I was just thinking the same thing, but I'm trying to be optimistic. We're so excited for this cruise! Are you going to call next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusyl Posted October 1, 2009 #164 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yes, that's what we're afraid of. Thank goodness for cruise insurance, I guess. We're scheduled to fly down on Friday, but I guess they won't know anything until after the current cruisers disembark, right? I sure won't plan on being the first at the port that day. Since it's above the water line they will just keep sailing until their time for drydock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PH8 Posted October 1, 2009 #165 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Here's hoping it's not another case of call 3 times & get 3 different answers...:eek: Now that sounds pretty cynical to me,KC;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc320 Posted October 1, 2009 #166 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Now that sounds pretty cynical to me,KC;) I know...my bad...but ya gotta admit it's true...:) moandbo, nah...I'm just gonna go ahead & get in the car tommorrow morning & head to Ft. Lauderdale...unless I hear something this evening that our cruise is delayed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin' Bud Posted October 1, 2009 #167 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Remember the movie "Days of Thunder" when Harry told Cole "He didn't hit you or bump you he rubbed you, and rubbin' is racin'." You think the captain of the Legend said the same thing to the RCCL captain? "I didn't hit ya I rubbed ya and rubbin' is cruisin'." :D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planocruiser3 Posted October 1, 2009 #168 Share Posted October 1, 2009 So... did he forgive you? :p Great pix, BTW... A~ He hasn't un-friended me on facebook yet so I think that is a good sign. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joan_al Posted October 1, 2009 #169 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The pilot only advises, the Captain is always master of the vessel Not true at all..... "Pilot In maritime law, a person who assumes responsibility for a vessel at a particular place for the purpose of navigating it through a river or channel, or from or into a port. The captain, or master, of a large ship has total command in the high seas. However, when a ship enters or leaves a port, or enters a river or channel, the captain turns over navigation to a local pilot. Because of safety and commercial concerns, state and federal maritime law governs the licensing and regulation of pilots. A docking pilot directs the tugboats that pull a ship from the pier. Once the ship has cleared the pier and is under way in the harbor, the docking pilot leaves the ship and turns navigation over to a harbor pilot. Every ship that enters and leaves a port must have a harbor pilot aboard. Once the ship reaches open water, a small boat picks up the harbor pilot and returns the pilot to port. The captain then resumes full command of the ship. The harbor pilot must have a thorough knowledge of every channel, sandbar, and other obstacle that could run the ship aground, strike another ship, or cause an accident that would endanger the ship, its crew, its cargo, and any passengers on board. The pilot must also be an experienced sailor who knows how to maneuver a ship through crowded harbors. Either the state or federal government licenses pilots to ensure that vessels will be prop-erly operated in state and U.S. waters. Federal law requires that federally registered pilots navigate ships on the Great Lakes, and state law regulates the need for pilots in bays, inlets, rivers, harbors, and ports. Where the waters are the boundary between two states, the owner of the ship can hire a pilot who has been licensed by either state to navigate the vessel to and from port. State and federal laws impose qualifications for a pilot's license. A pilot must have the highest degree of skill as a sailor and may be tested on that knowledge. The individual may be required to submit written references from persons for whom he or she has served as an apprentice. In addition, the applicant must obtain a reference from a licensed pilot. The pilot may also be required to post a bond. Once licensed, the pilot must act in a professional manner. A license can be revoked or suspended for adequate cause, such as when the pilot has operated the ship while intoxicated. The pilot has the right to appeal to a court an administrative body's decision to deny licensure or to impose discipline. The legal rights and responsibilities of the harbor pilot's action in navigating vessels are well settled. The pilot has primary control of the navigation of the vessel, and the crew must obey any pilot order. The pilot is empowered to issue steering directions and to set the course and speed of the ship and the time, place, and manner of anchoring it. The captain is in command of the ship except for navigation purposes. The captain can properly assume command over the ship when the pilot is obviously incompetent or intoxicated. The pilot must possess and exercise the ordinary skill and care of one who is an expert in a profession. A pilot can be held personally liable to the owners of the vessel and to other injured parties for damages resulting from negligence that causes a collision. The pilot will be responsible for damages if his or her handling of the ship was unreasonable, according to persons of nautical experience and good seamanship, at the time of the accident. The negligence of a pilot in the performance of duty is a maritime tort within the jurisdiction of a court of admiralty, which deals only with maritime actions." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoke14 Posted October 1, 2009 #170 Share Posted October 1, 2009 WOW. They're lucky they didn't take serious damage from that pier shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negc Posted October 1, 2009 #171 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Ya think?:confused:We were on the Brilliance in August and I used both mine and my DH's coupons --- alas, no keychain. Kathy:) Another cutback? Have they rigged the Spin to Win machine to give out fewer keychains?:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moandbo Posted October 1, 2009 #172 Share Posted October 1, 2009 I just looked at that picture more closely. Holy Cow! I hope my corner aft balcony is OK. It looks like the Carnival ship scraped along right underneath the room we're going to be in on Saturday. Glad I wasn't in the room with this happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORB Posted October 1, 2009 #173 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The Partner and I are sailing on the Enchantment October 8, starting a b2b. After my initial panic (we really NEED this vacation...) I'm beginning to breathe normally again. Still, I wish some passenger on the Legend had been as quick with the camera and the up-loading--now that we know no one was injured, I'm rather selfishly more interested in the damage to the Enchantment. It wouldn't surprise me, however, if any visible sign of the damage is gone by the time we board next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snausman Posted October 1, 2009 #174 Share Posted October 1, 2009 The Partner and I are sailing on the Enchantment October 8, starting a b2b. After my initial panic (we really NEED this vacation...) I'm beginning to breathe normally again. Still, I wish some passenger on the Legend had been as quick with the camera and the up-loading--now that we know no one was injured, I'm rather selfishly more interested in the damage to the Enchantment. It wouldn't surprise me, however, if any visible sign of the damage is gone by the time we board next week. I am sailing at after you or after the first b2b. If you thing of it could you come back and tell us what is the damage to the Enchantment. I am so glad everyone is ok but would love to know the damage to the Enchantment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kthy66 Posted October 1, 2009 #175 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Bad timing on the part of that Harbor Pilot.. if he had just waited another minute for the leading edge of that front to pass he would have been fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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