pilotboy1985 Posted May 20, 2011 #26 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I can't give blood either... The reason? Because I'm gay. It's such a shame that Canada will not accept blood donations from gay males. If they get rid of this stupid rule I'd donate. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMM75 Posted May 20, 2011 #27 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I can't give blood either... The reason? Because I'm gay. It's such a shame that Canada will not accept blood donations from gay males. If they get rid of this stupid rule I'd donate. :) They won't know you're gay unless you tell them. Same goes with trips to Labadee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boingy300 Posted May 20, 2011 #28 Share Posted May 20, 2011 It's a good idea to donate before your cruise (if it's been > than a year) or encourage family members to donate. My DH & I freq. go into Haiti and it keeps us from donating, so our twin sons stepped up to the plate on our behalf to donate. As a side note, esp. for men, some studies suggest it's good for your heart to donate on a reg. basis- so good for mankind & good for you. Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matj2000 Posted May 20, 2011 #29 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I never tell them any of the cruise stops. You are there such a short time it really isn't considered traveling to that country.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyriecat Posted May 20, 2011 #30 Share Posted May 20, 2011 For some countries the list excludes some areas. For Panama it says the "Canal Zone" is okay but other areas of the country are not. However, some of the blood banks don't want to take a risk and won't let you donate anyway. I was on a Panama Canal cruise last month and never left the canal zone, but was still told no since my visit was so recent. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negc Posted May 20, 2011 #31 Share Posted May 20, 2011 We disembarked in Labadee, so we have been deferred for a year; however, according to the nurse with whom we spoke, there would have been no problem if we had stayed on board the ship. That just illustrates the amount of misinformation that even seemingly knowledgeable health professionals can sometimes disseminate. Was the nurse somehow aware of some invisible barrier that would prevent those malaria bearing mosquitoes from gaining access to the ship and biting those passengers who had stayed onboard. The threat of being bitten by mosquitoes while in Labadee during the hours that the ship is in port there is minimal but the health authorities exercise extreme caution in accepting blood donations from folks who have been there and other areas of the world, even briefly. Perhaps they are being unnecessarily cautious but that is not for me to determine. However people like that nurse who don't know what they are talking about should be called on it when they make such ridiculous statements.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffy116 Posted May 20, 2011 #32 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Even though the risk is minimal, the guidelines were set for a reason. My nephew (college) and my Grandson (high school) were both prohibited from donating blood last year because they completed the questions honestly, and we had been in Labadee. We didn't know they were going to donate or I could have explained they would be rejected. They were both a confused and a little embarrassed, especially the Grandson in high school, as to why his blood would be rejected. In spite of this, I would not have suggested he lie or withold the information. He was trying to do the right thing (in donating), and trying to do the right thing (in completing the questions honestly). I would never suggest he withhold the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAZANDSTEVE Posted May 20, 2011 #33 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I never tell them any of the cruise stops. You are there such a short time it really isn't considered traveling to that country.. :eek:Yikes. It only takes one small bite to be infected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_K Posted May 20, 2011 #34 Share Posted May 20, 2011 We disembarked in Labadee, so we have been deferred for a year; however, according to the nurse with whom we spoke, there would have been no problem if we had stayed on board the ship.True. Since the local mosquitos don't have passports or birth certificates, they aren't allowed onboard the ship. Although, I suppose if you don't get off the ship, you haven't actually been in/to Haiti, you've only been near it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negc Posted May 20, 2011 #35 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Even though the risk is minimal, the guidelines were set for a reason. My nephew (college) and my Grandson (high school) were both prohibited from donating blood last year because they completed the questions honestly, and we had been in Labadee. We didn't know they were going to donate or I could have explained they would be rejected. They were both a confused and a little embarrassed, especially the Grandson in high school, as to why his blood would be rejected. In spite of this, I would not have suggested he lie or withold the information. He was trying to do the right thing (in donating), and trying to do the right thing (in completing the questions honestly). I would never suggest he withhold the information. I agree and anyone who would withhold the information and put even one person at risk should seriously reconsider their position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted May 20, 2011 #36 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Same for Costa Maya and Belize I had no problem after belize in 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted May 20, 2011 #37 Share Posted May 20, 2011 We disembarked in Labadee, so we have been deferred for a year; however, according to the nurse with whom we spoke, there would have been no problem if we had stayed on board the ship. This goes against everything I have been told. Being on a ship tied to the dock absolutely does mean you are in that country, so I'm surprised a nurse would say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy-Europe Posted May 20, 2011 #38 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Hi in Germany your blood donor is refused if: 4 weeks after returning from a trip to the US (between June 01 and Nov 30) if you lived in the UK for more than 6 month between 1980 and 1996 for returning travellers from other countries there are the following rules (I think, the rules are similar everywhere): (translation: Monate = month, keine=no restrictions, nach Rücksprache = after consulting your doctor) Afghanistan 6 Monate Ägypten 6 Monate Albanien keine Algerien 6 Monate Andorra keine Angola 6 Monate Antigua u. Barbuda nach Rücksprache Äquatorialguinea 6 Monate Argentinien 6 Monate Armenien 6 Monate Aserbeidschan 6 Monate Äthiopien 6 Monate Australien keine Bahamas nach Rücksprache Bahrein keine Bangladesch 6 Monate Barbados nach Rücksprache Belgie keine Belize 6 Monate Benin 6 Monate Bhutan 6 Monate Bolivien 6 Monate Bosnien-Herzegovina keine Botswana 6 Monate Brasilien 6 Monate Brunei nach Rücksprache Bulgarien keine Burkina-Faso 6 Monate Burundi 6 Monate Cayman-Inseln nach Rücksprache Chile nach Rücksprache China 6 Monate Costa Rica 6 Monate Dänemark keine Dominika nach Rücksprache Dominikanische Republik 6 Monate Dschibuti nach Rücksprache Ecuador 6 Monate Elfenbeinküste 6 Monate El Salvador 6 Monate Eritrea 6 Monate Estland keine Fidschi keine Finnland keine Frankreich keine Franz. Guyana 6 Monate Franz. Polynesien keine Gabun 6 Monate Gambia 6 Monate Georgien keine Ghana 6 Monate Grenada nach Rücksprache Griechenland keine Guadeloupe nach Rücksprache Guam nach Rücksprache Guatemala 6 Monate Guinea 6 Monate Guinea-Bissau 6 Monate Guyana / Franz. Guyana 6 Monate Haiti 6 Monate Hawaii keine Honduras 6 Monate Hong Kong 6 Monate Indien 6 Monate Indonesien 6 Monate Irak 6 Monate Iran 6 Monate Island keine Israel keine Italien keine Jamaika nach Rücksprache Japan keine Jemen 6 Monate Jordanien keine Jungferninseln nach Rücksprache Jugoslawien keine Kambodscha 6 Monate Kamerun 6 Monate Kanada keine Kap Verde 6 Monate Kasachstan 6 Monate Katar 6 Monate Kenia 6 Monate Kirgistan 6 Monate Kiribati keine Kolumbien 6 Monate Komoren 6 Monate Kongo 6 Monate Kongo, Dem. Republik 6 Monate Korea, Dem. Volksrepublik 6 Monate Korea, Republik 6 Monate Kroatien keine Kuba nach Rücksprache Kuwait keine Laos 6 Monate Lesotho nach Rücksprache Lettland keine Libano keine Liberia 6 Monate Libyen 6 Monate Liechtenstein keine Litauen keine Luxemburg keine Macao nach Rücksprache Madagaskar 6 Monate Malawi 6 Monate Malaysia 6 Monate Malediven keine Mali 6 Monate Malta keine Marokko 6 Monate Marschallinseln keine Martinique 6 Monate Mauretanien 6 Monate Mauritius 6 Monate Mayott 6 Monate Mazedonie keine Mexiko 6 Monate Mikronesien keine Moldawien keine Monaco keine Mongolei nach Rücksprache Montserrat nach Rücksprache Mosambik 6 Monate Myanmar (Burma) 6 Monate Namibia 6 Monate Naura nach Rücksprache Nepal 6 Monate Neu Kaledonien keine Neuseeland keine Nicaragua 6 Monate Niederlande keine Niederländische Antillen nach Rücksprache Niger 6 Monate Nigeria 6 Monate Norwegen keine Oman 6 Monate Österreich keine Pakistan 6 Monate Palau nach Rücksprache Panama 6 Monate Papua-Neuguinea 6 Monate Paraguay 6 Monate Peru 6 Monate Philippinen 6 Monate Polen keine Portugal keine Reunion nach Rücksprache Ruanda 6 Monate Rumänien keine Russische Förderation keine Sahara nach Rücksprache Solomonen (Ozeanien) nach Rücksprache Sambia nach Rücksprache Samoa keine San Marino keine Sao Tomé u. Principe 6 Monate Saudi Arabien 6 Monate Schweden keine Schweiz keine Senegal 6 Monate Seychellen keine Sierra Leone 6 Monate Simbabwe 6 Monate Singapur nach Rücksprache Slowakei keine Somalia nach Rücksprache Slowenien keine Solomon Inseln 6 Monate Somalia 6 Monate Spanien keine Sri Lanka 6 Monate St. Helena nach Rücksprache St. Kitts u. Nevis nach Rücksprache St. Lucia nach Rücksprache St. Vincent u. Grenardinien nach Rücksprache Südafrika 6 Monate Sudan 6 Monate Surinam 6 Monate Swasiland 6 Monate Syrien 6 Monate Tadschikistan 6 Monate Taiwan nach Rücksprache Tansania 6 Monate Thailand 6 Monate Togo 6 Monate Tonga keine Trinida u. Tobego nach Rücksprache Tschad 6 Monate Tschechische Republik keine Tunesien keine Türkei (Südosten) 6 Monate Turkmenistan 6 Monate Turks & Caicos Inseln nach Rücksprache Tuvalu keine Uganda 6 Monate Ukraine keine Ungarn keine Uruguay nach Rücksprache Usbekistan 6 Monate Vanuatu 6 Monate Vatikanstadt keine Venezuela 6 Monate Verein. Arabische Emirate 6 Monate Vereinigte Staaten (USA) keine Vietnam 6 Monate Weißrußland keine Zentralafrikan. Republik 6 Monate Zypern keine Wendy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slfong Posted May 20, 2011 #39 Share Posted May 20, 2011 true. Since the local mosquitos don't have passports or birth certificates, they aren't allowed onboard the ship. although, i suppose if you don't get off the ship, you haven't actually been in/to haiti, you've only been near it. lol! :d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papakaiser Posted May 20, 2011 #40 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I am a 3 gallon plus blood donor. The reason I have not made it to 4 gallons, or even more, is because of the restrictions in place for locations such as Labadee, Costa Maya, and Belize. After being deferred four times, because of new locations that I had visited on a cruise, and it seems like the list is always growing, I removed my name from the donor list. I always knew when I had reached my 56 day time frame for donation. My phone would ring, and I would be asked for another donation of O+ blood. After spending an hour each time going through screening, and finding out that a new item or location had been added to the deferment list, I stopped. I understand the reason for the deferment criteria. But nothing in life is "Risk Free." From my experience, the reason the Red Cross is always crying for blood donors is the ever growing deferral list. You can't constantly eliminate normally healthy people, and still come up with the numbers the Red Cross needs for blood donation. Sooner or later, the pool runs dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy-mae Posted May 20, 2011 #41 Share Posted May 20, 2011 That just illustrates the amount of misinformation that even seemingly knowledgeable health professionals can sometimes disseminate. Was the nurse somehow aware of some invisible barrier that would prevent those malaria bearing mosquitoes from gaining access to the ship and biting those passengers who had stayed onboard....people like that nurse who don't know what they are talking about should be called on it when they make such ridiculous statements.:rolleyes: I wasn't about to argue with her, since anyone who questions their procedure is automatically regarded with suspicion. (I once commented on the lengthy AIDS questionnaire, and the look I got lead me to believe that I was very close to being disqualified). Her reasoning was that if we did not set foot on land, then, technically, we would not have been in the country. As a regular blood donor, I figured it was safer to just admit to having visited Labadee and have a clear conscience, rather than run the risk of being "tripped up" during a subsequent donation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Paroo Posted May 20, 2011 #42 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I'm sure that most of you already know this, but I'm just confirming. If you have been to Haiti in the last 12 months, you will be deferred from donating blood for 12 months. I just tried to do it at my school and I was deferred due a risk of exposure to Malaria. So if you are a blood donor, and have been to Labadee, you will be deferred for 12 months. Thanks for posting that. I am not planning a trip to Haiti any time soon, but I will pay more attention to the no-no list the next time i donate blood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negc Posted May 20, 2011 #43 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I wasn't about to argue with her, since anyone who questions their procedure is automatically regarded with suspicion. (I once commented on the lengthy AIDS questionnaire, and the look I got lead me to believe that I was very close to being disqualified). Her reasoning was that if we did not set foot on land, then, technically, we would not have been in the country. As a regular blood donor, I figured it was safer to just admit to having visited Labadee and have a clear conscience, rather than run the risk of being "tripped up" during a subsequent donation. I understand and sympathize with your decision. I would probably have done the same, although I would be sorely tempted to mention her comments to someone higher up in the chain of command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackretired Posted May 23, 2011 #44 Share Posted May 23, 2011 We are having an emergency blood drive because of tornado that hit Joplin MO, including the hospital. Many of the patients and newly wounded transfered down here. My wife tried to donate, but they would not take her blood because of her cruise history. Our stop at Samana &/or Haiti could not be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachMom76 Posted May 23, 2011 #45 Share Posted May 23, 2011 This happened to me as well after our 2001 cruise stop in Labadee. I have an ill sister who may need my blood at any time, and I had no idea that Labadee would be a problem. Luckily, I went to a random blood drive and it wasn't my sister or someone else needing my blood right away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisintwinsmom Posted May 23, 2011 #46 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Malaria risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffinater Posted May 23, 2011 #47 Share Posted May 23, 2011 There was a post about this, giving blood, last week that pretty much said the same thing. Does anyone know if the cruiseline provides this info when heading to these ports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachMom76 Posted May 23, 2011 #48 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I don't remember being told before we got to Labadee...however, Labadee was a surprise stop for us due to Hurricane activity. Maybe if you book with a stop in Labadee, they do advise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusinmama06 Posted May 23, 2011 #49 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I don't remember being told before we got to Labadee...however, Labadee was a surprise stop for us due to Hurricane activity. Maybe if you book with a stop in Labadee, they do advise. They don't. I've been to many of the places listed on the banned list and have never been warned in advanced. I am guessing they see it as a bad thing to include in the marketing brochure. "Beautiful sun kissed beaches -- by the way, you may get malaria and you are banned for a year from donating blood" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachMom76 Posted May 23, 2011 #50 Share Posted May 23, 2011 They don't. I've been to many of the places listed on the banned list and have never been warned in advanced. I am guessing they see it as a bad thing to include in the marketing brochure. "Beautiful sun kissed beaches -- by the way, you may get malaria and you are banned for a year from donating blood" LOL!! True! Still would be good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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