Piano Bars to be Non-Smoking

[jimbo5544]

I wouldn't go that far...for me it has as much to do with the smell. I don't like strong perfumes either. I guess my nose is super sensitive. When I use perfume, I spray my mid to lower back...but yeah, cigarette odor, to me is pretty offensive.

My parents smoked..when my kids were little, if they stayed with my parents for the day I would pick them up, bring them home, strip them down, toss them in the bathtub and wash their clothes immediately.

To me, it's just gross and sticks to everything, especially hair and clothing.

I agree. Getting on a ship first and walking around, you could tell when near the piano bar by the nasty oder.....

[Froufie]

So here is the 'official news" http://carnival-news.com/2011/06/15/carnival-cruise-lines-modifies-shipboard-smoking-policy/

 

Effective June 15 - some changes to smoking policy: While no smoking in piano bar you can smoke in the 'jazz clubs' and cigar lounge (which are the jazz clubs? those smaller lounges beside largest lounge aft deck 5? - guess you could always smoke in there?).

 

..and no more SMOKING IN THE CABINS as of December 1, 2011!

[richkinkade]

For those who want to see the actual Carnival policy, it is this:

 

Carnival Cruise Lines Modifies Shipboard Smoking Policy

 

Posted on 15 June 2011.

As part of its ongoing commitment to keep pace with changing guest preferences, Carnival Cruise Lines will be modifying its smoking policy across its 23-ship fleet.

The new smoking policy will be rolled out in two stages:

• Effective June 15, 2011, cigarette smoking in public areas will be permitted only in Carnival’s dance clubs, designated areas within the casino and casino bar, certain sections on the open decks on all vessels and also in the jazz clubs on 13 Carnival ships. The 13 ships include Carnival Destiny, Carnival Triumph, Carnival Victory, Carnival Spirit, Carnival Pride, Carnival Legend, Carnival Miracle, Carnival Conquest, Carnival Glory, Carnival Valor, Carnival Liberty, Carnival Freedom, and Carnival Splendor. Cigar smoking will also be permitted in the jazz clubs. On other vessels in the fleet, cigar (and cigarette) smoking will also be permitted in designated areas on deck.
  
• Effective December 1, 2011, smoking will be prohibited in all guest staterooms. Those guests in balcony accommodations will be permitted to smoke cigarettes and cigars outside on the balcony. Spa staterooms, currently featured on Carnival Splendor, Carnival Dream and Carnival Magic, will continue to remain entirely smoke-free, including on the balconies.
  

The modified smoking policy is the result of recent guest surveys conducted by the company that covered a wide range of topics. The surveys indicated that nearly 90 percent of all Carnival Cruise Lines’ guests are non-smokers with less than five percent of guests opting to smoke in their staterooms.

These changes will be implemented aboard all 23 Carnival Cruise Lines ships, which operate three- to 16-day voyages to the Bahamas, Caribbean, Mexican Riviera, Alaska, Hawaii, Panama Canal, Bermuda, and Europe.

Carnival is updating all of its collateral materials and communicating details of the modified smoking policy to its guests and travel agent partners.

 

http://carnival-news.com/2011/06/15/carnival-cruise-lines-modifies-shipboard-smoking-policy/

[loves2run]

And I intend to monitor the piano bars to make sure that all the people who have been whining about this are actually IN the smoke-free piano bars:rolleyes: We were recently on the Miracle where the piano bar is already non-smoking. There was a group of 10 of us (mostly smokers) who stayed for a while and then left to go somewhere we could smoke. When we left, there were about 4 or 5 people in there, and that's pretty much the way it stayed for the entire cruise. I was amazed not to see all the people in there who have been screaming for it to be smoke-free:rolleyes:

 

Smokers can't just leave an enclosed space and it suddenly becomes smoke-free. The piano bar reeks even when no one is in it. Once it is thoroughly cleaned and deodorized, then it will be a welcoming spot for non-smokers. To think that it's just the smoke itself that is noxious to nonsmokers is to ignore the obvious. Smoking leaves a dirty, stinky residue. I imagine that the ships will be much cleaner now that smoking is limited.

[halos]

Smokers can't just leave an enclosed space and it suddenly becomes smoke-free. The piano bar reeks even when no one is in it. Once it is thoroughly cleaned and deodorized, then it will be a welcoming spot for non-smokers. To think that it's just the smoke itself that is noxious to nonsmokers is to ignore the obvious. Smoking leaves a dirty, stinky residue. I imagine that the ships will be much cleaner now that smoking is limited.

 

I imagine that this new regulation also saves CCL some money...clean up of the nicotine staining and residue on the walls/upholstery costs time and money.

[Chris41]

I feel that as they lessen the availability of smoking areas, that they should give smokers an opportunity to hold our seats. A smoker's biggest plight in a non-smoking venue is seat availability. We ,more times than not, become the victims of seat scavenging by non-smokers. When we physically have to leave our seats to feed our habit, some, yet not all, non-smokers will jump right into our temporarily vacated seats. If non-smokers want the courtesy of a smoke free environment, then give smokers the courtesy of holding our seats as we scurry off to smoke!

 

 

 

Good luck on that one

[Chris41]

Smoking must make your skin very thin. .:p

 

 

 

Not thin in the least however your attitude that comes thru on so many of your posts gets very old.

[AllyCat81]

Being a smoker, let me just say to other smokers...It's not that big a deal!

 

Up here in Montreal, you cannot smoke inside ANYWHERE. Not the bars, not the casino, I don't even smoke inside my own home!!!

 

On all my cruises, I have yet to smoke inside. I know you are allowed, but really, step outside for 3 mins and smoke your cig. It's just common courtesy.:D

 

Nancydee... people like you are a dime a dozen! It's very rare that anyone has common courtesy anymore.

 

But it's the same in NJ. You can't smoke anywhere, and in some places that even applies to outside. Some beaches in NJ are 100% smoke free.

[GlendaleCruiser]

So non-smokers, don't bash the smokers on their balconies when they are being pushed out of the venues inside the ship. At least smoking is still allowed on balconies. It's the one place they can go to without harrassment.

 

 

Actually, a poster has already mentioned wanting to ask her smoking neighbors to refrain from smoking on their own balcony because she is next door.....................:confused::(:rolleyes:

[cathyz]

And I intend to monitor the piano bars to make sure that all the people who have been whining about this are actually IN the smoke-free piano bars:rolleyes: We were recently on the Miracle where the piano bar is already non-smoking. There was a group of 10 of us (mostly smokers) who stayed for a while and then left to go somewhere we could smoke. When we left, there were about 4 or 5 people in there, and that's pretty much the way it stayed for the entire cruise. I was amazed not to see all the people in there who have been screaming for it to be smoke-free:rolleyes:

We have avoided the Piano Bars for years because of the cloud of smoke, once the word is out that they are smoke free, many of the non-smokers will head back (assuming the piano bar entertainer is any good). We gutted out many nights in a very smoky piano bar on the Splendor a few years ago only because Ron Pass was there and he was worth it, but it was difficult. We talked to him a few times and he complained about all the smoke too and had to constantly use throat spray to keep from losing his voice from the smoke. He'll be happy I think.

[Sargent_Schultz]

Smoking must make your skin very thin. .:p

 

Not sure about that, but it definitely causes premature skin aging and wrinkles!

[lillian marie]

I hope it's enforced.

[Jolimont]

Having a smoking section in a bar is like having a peeing section in the swimming pool.

Or a farting section in the dining room.