Emerald Princess Dancers

[shepp]

YES. And it's getting worse by the day. We're having political dialogues we might have expected in the 1960s. People are saying the most bizarre things. Makes me want to throw up. ;)

 

Cripes, next thing you know, women will want to use birth control!

[1 HappyCruiser]

On Princess???

 

I usually only see these on Carnival--but I would not mind if Princess had them too.

 

Occasionally they'll have an R rated show & sometimes an X rated show in the Fusion lounge at around 11:30 PM, one show only, depending on the comedian aboard and if they do you better get there 45 minutes EARLY to even get in the place, no less get a seat.

[englishbird]

Even the late night x rated shows arent offensive. Just the odd f word here and there. They are very popular though, I have never yet manged to get a seat at a late night show:eek:

[m2bell]

My wife and I attended this show and were not offended at all.

[1 HappyCruiser]

Even the late night x rated shows arent offensive. Just the odd f word here and there. They are very popular though, I have never yet manged to get a seat at a late night show:eek:

 

There are R rated late night shows & X rated shows depending on the guest entertainer.

[Times Prince]

Our son knows the dance captain on the Emerald. He'll definitely pass on your comments. And if you were offended, I hope you made your feelings known to Princess at the end of the cruise.

The dance team must do the show as they were trained to do it - I don't think the dance captain has much say in it unless there is an individual who is being too enthusiastic in the referenced scene.

 

Well, the OP does have the right to his opinion and if he wants to warn folks that might share his sensibilities about something he deems offensive, then that's cool too...

 

IMHO, Princess attempts to put on Broadway-type shows and what the OP describes falls right in line with that... not offensive at all in my mind.

I agree about the right to opinion. IMO that there are specific issues (I recall the example, and didn't care for it myself) and broad brush stroke issues presented here. While some might agree with the specific, the broad brush stroke of "every show they did was very sexually charged" loses credibility, which is what most comments are responding to. Certainly there are belief systems which would find the broad comment true.

 

We've stopped even considering going to comedian shows because we find much of the "comedy" offensive. Others find it entertaining. I'm willing to live with that, and have commented in the past on the end of cruise survey about specifics.

 

I would hope that if any cruiser finds something distasteful, they would provide appropriate specific comments while still onboard, and then opt to find other entertainment.

[SiBreeze]

LOL:):) Never heard the term po-pos before. Thanks for a good laugh before bedtime tonight!!

 

Po-pos is slang for police. Never heard of a guys package called that. :eek:

[Homosassa]

I have seen all the shows on the Emerald Princess with the dancers. None were the least bit offensive or obscene and I would willing let any young children (if I still had any) see them.

 

I thought the "Physical" number was funny and tongue in cheek.

[gecko12]

I'll be on board the Emerald with two kids under 10. I appreciate the OP giving me the heads up for their opinion about the shows. My kids love the theater. I don't mind small costumes I just don't want to see a Madonna like performance in them.

[RickEk]

Sometimes I wonder if we, in the States, are too much hung up on sex? I guess we are a country of extremes--going all the way from prude to porn. Do you think that Europeans have a healthier attitude? Just wondering.

 

Yes, I would agree that Europeans, as a society, have healthier attitudes toward sex than some Americans. For whatever reason, there is a segment of Americans who hold onto the Puritan ethic...

 

Even the late night x rated shows arent offensive. Just the odd f word here and there. They are very popular though, I have never yet manged to get a seat at a late night show:eek:

 

A couple of cruises ago, a comedian announced that he was going to have an "adult" show later that evening and that kids shouldn't be present. So what did people do? They brought their kids, seated them in the front row no less. :rolleyes: The comedian did the best he could, some of the funniest lines were about those parents... :p

[miched]

The women's costumes contain much flesh colored material. Maybe some of what you thought was bare was really costume in this color.

 

I think you hit what the complaint is. The costumes weren't appropriate for the dance numbers. There was too much clothing. :confused: :D

 

 

 

 

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[Posaune]

I have seen the show several times and see nothing wrong with it. There is much worse on TV every night.

[hlhp3]

If you were offended, I recommend that you make your feelings known to Princess. I'm sure that they are sensitive to providing entertainment that does not cross over into areas which people find disturbing. I think that they would take your criticism seriously.

 

I've learned that a well-written letter sent to the right person or persons can be very effective.

 

MJ

 

I did write a letter on board and gave it to the customer service personnel.

 

I also believe they would be very sensitive that the entertainment is widely acceptable during early hours - that is why I was perplexed and asked my question about me being the only one disliking it. That surprises me if I am - but perhaps I am somewhat alone. If that is true - that the vast majority of Princess passengers enjoy that kind of entertainment, then I understand Princess providing it - its a free market.

 

Personally, I found it offensive. As an educated woman I am disappointed and uncomfortable when a woman is objectified like that and reinforces stereotypical roles as sex objects (like the skimpy maid outfit).

[hlhp3]

Well, I will admit that the "Let's Get Physical" section of Boogie Shoes was my least favorite number in my least favorite show. I'm not a prude by any means, but it was a little bit in poor taste in my opinion. I did not find any of the other numbers particularly offensive, but then I'm a dancer and have been in a ton of musicals myself, including Carabet and Sweet Charity, so I've probably done stuff on stage that would make most of the Princess shows look pretty tame. I've been around theatre my whole life, so I guess I'm just used to somewhat skimpy costumes and moves that could be considered suggestive. A number of shows come to mind - Chicago, Fosse, Victor/Victoria, to name a few, that have some pretty risque numbers, and I didn't see anything on the Emerald that was even close to that.

 

It is nice to hear that other passengers also found that instance was in poor taste - restores some of my faith in society. You are right that many numbers were fine - I did exaggerate - but I was bothered by many numbers - but not all.

[hlhp3]

I've seen "Boogie Shoes" and don't recall any dance number that I thought was inappropriate for a Princess audience. I've been more offended by some of the dance numbers performed by children on Lifetime TV's Dance Moms :eek:

 

Whatever floats your boat.

Chris

 

Completely agree that some mothers push sexuality on their daughters - to exploit their own dreams usually. That is unacceptable - and why I don't watch shows like that.

[Daisyloo]

Gee, I hope the OP never goes to the ballet: The male dancers wear tights that cling to their po-pos, and through which you can clearly discern their junk. And then there are those naughty paintings in Pompeii, and those naked Rubens ladies, and the pee-pees visible on the Sistine ceiling, and the sexy statuary in India....

 

Oh dear....the restraints didn't hold...

 

 

OMG - Toooooooo funny!!

[hlhp3]

I was very unhappy to learn that the pole dance portion of Boogie Shoes, which was always a favorite for me, was cut because ONE person complained about it (I was told). I think that if you don't care for something, don't go to see it, but don't try to stop others from seeing it who might enjoy it.

 

I have no intention of stopping anyone from seeing whatever they deem appropriate. I do, however, wish that either one of two things happened:

1. The dance shows be separated by time - like the comedy shows. I never attended the late night comedy because I don't appreciate it - but I did enjoy their earlier shows. Perhaps this would be too difficult - but it seems that an earlier show could omit the questionable songs.

2. Have a warning or title that would indicate the material - such as they do for the late comedy shows. Something like - "adult material."

 

Also, I didn't go see it anymore. Of course no one was making me and my husband stay.

[hlhp3]

I know! Wow, I really hate reality shows like that. Everything is exaggerated for the camera.

 

 

 

Well, the OP does have the right to his opinion and if he wants to warn folks that might share his sensibilities about something he deems offensive, then that's cool too...

 

IMHO, Princess attempts to put on Broadway-type shows and what the OP describes falls right in line with that... not offensive at all in my mind.

 

Thank you for answering my question respectfully.

[hlhp3]

Gee, I hope the OP never goes to the ballet: The male dancers wear tights that cling to their po-pos, and through which you can clearly discern their junk. And then there are those naughty paintings in Pompeii, and those naked Rubens ladies, and the pee-pees visible on the Sistine ceiling, and the sexy statuary in India....

 

Oh dear....the restraints didn't hold...

 

I indicated in my original post that the most offensive part to me was the aggressively sexual movements - not the costumes.

[hlhp3]

The shows that the OP described do not bother me in the least. If fact I might go to a few of them two or three times!! I think princess could use a bit more action. However, I do not like comedians that use adult language and tell adult jokes. So I just don't go to those shows. But some people like them so more power to them. I am not writing a letter of complaint. I could care less if people other like that type of show.

 

As I wrote to someone else above, I would appreciate if I could enjoy the dancer's considerable talent - minus the questionable numbers. Just like I enjoyed the comedian's considerable talent - minus the "adult" jokes - during the earlier comedy shows. If I can't then I will of course decide not to attend the dance shows. I don't care if anyone likes dirty jokes or dirty dancing or not - I just wish that they would provide an alternative so I could enjoy the talent without the offense.

[hlhp3]

The women's costumes contain much flesh colored material. Maybe some of what you thought was bare was really costume in this color.

 

That could be. It wasn't the costumes so much as the actions. For example - I'm not offended by ice skaters, ballet dancers, etc.

[hlhp3]

I was on the Emerald a few years ago and became friends with one of the dancers. I do not recall anything being offensive. I think it is all in how you perceive things. Those dancers work really hard and they do the best with what Princess gives them. I say if something offends you then don't watch, but don't ruin it for the rest of us. Don't sail Costa because their women's attire is very revealing.

 

I appreciate the heads up on Costa - although after the sinking I don't think I'd chance it.

 

I completely agree that the dancers were very talented and I would bet you are right that they don't have much control over the numbers, choreography, etc. I met a few of them - very, very nice people.

 

When I was offended by the content, I did stop watching. I however, do not see how letting Princess know my feelings will ruin it for the rest of you. If these particular numbers are important for your cruise experience then I hope you let Princess know that as well.

[hlhp3]

My wife and I attended this show and were not offended at all.

 

Thank you for respectfully answering my question. I appreciate that.

[lovey1103]

The collars and leashes are offensive IMHO.

I would just walk out if it was bad enough.

[hlhp3]

The dance team must do the show as they were trained to do it - I don't think the dance captain has much say in it unless there is an individual who is being too enthusiastic in the referenced scene.

 

I agree about the right to opinion. IMO that there are specific issues (I recall the example, and didn't care for it myself) and broad brush stroke issues presented here. While some might agree with the specific, the broad brush stroke of "every show they did was very sexually charged" loses credibility, which is what most comments are responding to. Certainly there are belief systems which would find the broad comment true.

 

We've stopped even considering going to comedian shows because we find much of the "comedy" offensive. Others find it entertaining. I'm willing to live with that, and have commented in the past on the end of cruise survey about specifics.

 

I would hope that if any cruiser finds something distasteful, they would provide appropriate specific comments while still onboard, and then opt to find other entertainment.

 

As I wrote above to another poster, I did write a letter to Princess while on board.

 

You are right that my broad brush of every dance, every number, was exaggerating. The singers were amazing and much of the dancing was tasteful and entertaining. I was specific in my letter.