10th and probably last Royal Caribbean Cruise.

[PhoenixCruiser]

Poppycock - after the Smith incident I'm surprised it took as long as it did for Royal Caribbean to act. I agree, this was not done for revenue enhancement, it was done for revenue protection.

 

It seems rather strange that the people claiming Royal Caribbean is doing this for revenue enhancement don't like it because they are trying to save money. If it is not okay for Royal Caribbean to make money then it is not for the passengers to save money. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

See, I don't think it was the Smith incident, I think it was several incidents combined. After George went missing a 20ish dude was on video pissing his shorts on the Grandeur and then jumping into the pool with his said spoiled shorts. Then there was the 21 year old who went over-board while puking. He was cut off earlier in the evening and went back to his cabin and drank smuggled booze, got dizzy, went to get some fresh air and we all know what the result was.

 

All incidents are well documented and the blame cannot be put on Smith alone.

 

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[Iluvcruising2]

OP,

 

Pls indulge me.

 

1) Do you still intend to cruise?

 

2) If the answer to 1) is yes, then which cruise line?

 

Thanks.

[Scotty G]

I wouldn't get aboard one of their ships if someone gave me the tickets for free. It is my personal choice to have a decent, civilized dining experience and not be forced to paying extra for edible food.

 

We really enjoyed our two cruises to Alaska on NCL....the crew and of course, Alaska, was amazing! I also like that formal night was optional (as it is on most cruises, really), and most did not dress up. But that might have been because it was an Alaskan cruise and maybe they tend to be more casual?

 

And while we also enjoyed the specialty restaurants in which we paid a fee of $10-$35 (the Mexican one was free at the time), I agree, you shouldn't have to pay to have decent food on a cruise.

 

I'm sure many find the food to be fine in the MDR, but it was not our favorite cruise dining experience.

 

I felt like the price we paid for the suite we booked, made up for having to shell out $$ for dinner.

 

Different strokes!

So just fade quietly away. There are enough of us to take up the slack left by your departure.

[Charles4515]

You just made diamond and now you are going to give it all up because you can't bring alcohol aboard? Your choice.

 

However, after the Smith incident why should Royal Caribbean trust ALL of its passengers to be responsible. I sure don't. Sure, perhaps it is only 20 or 30 per ship (the 1%) but that one percent ruins it for the other 99%. What else is new?

 

Oh come on. Royal Caribbean is pushing their own booze all over the ship. And they have added All you can drink packages and all you can drink events. ( speakeasy nights). Watch the Inside Edition report. Responsible drinking is NOT their policy.

 

I think Royal Caribbean has the right to set policies to enhance their revenue but let's not kid ourselves that they are protecting passengers.

 

I think they should protect passengers but that is not what they do. They encourage over drinking.

[Ocean Dancer]

See, I don't think it was the Smith incident, I think it was several incidents combined. After George went missing a 20ish dude was on video pissing his shorts on the Grandeur and then jumping into the pool with his said spoiled shorts. Then there was the 21 year old who went over-board while puking. He was cut off earlier in the evening and went back to his cabin and drank smuggled booze, got dizzy, went to get some fresh air and we all know what the result was.

 

All incidents are well documented and the blame cannot be put on Smith alone.

 

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And your point is???????????????? All these people were in their 20's, maybe the cruise line should require age appropiate bracelets, so us over 30 plus year olds can be treated as the adults that we are and have a bottle in our room if we wish:confused:

[suzyed]

OP,

 

Pls indulge me.

 

1) Do you still intend to cruise?

 

2) If the answer to 1) is yes, then which cruise line?

 

Thanks.

 

I'm cruising on the Monarch on Monday to celebrate my daughter's law school graduation! I thought I would treat her to a short vacation in between graduation (last week) and her bar exam prep classes.:)

[suzyed]

So just fade quietly away. There are enough of us to take up the slack left by your departure.

 

The quote "in red" in the above quote was not mine. I was merely responding to someone who said they wouldn't sail on NCL even if it was for free.

[Scotty G]

The quote "in red" in the above quote was not mine. I was merely responding to someone who said they wouldn't sail on NCL even if it was for free.

My sincere apology. It was not flagged as a quote so plead ignorance.

[Charles4515]

I'm cruising on the Monarch on Monday to celebrate my daughter's law school graduation! I thought I would treat her to a short vacation in between graduation (last week) and her bar exam prep classes.:)

 

That does not require you bringing a bottle onboard. I doubt you are paying much for that cruise. You can buy a good bottle of champagne on the ship to celebrate. Royal has their policy and that is that. They are in the business of making a profit.

[suzyed]

My sincere apology. It was not flagged as a quote so plead ignorance.

 

Silly me! I forgot the quotes, I thought putting it in red would make it stand out as such.....Apology accepted....thanks! ;)

[suzyed]

That does not require you bringing a bottle onboard. I doubt you are paying much for that cruise. You can buy a good bottle of champagne on the ship to celebrate. Royal has their policy and that is that. They are in the business of making a profit.

 

Of course! That is what I am going to do! ;)

 

(Actually, I paid for all three of us (myself, my daughter and her friend), in two cabins, so it may not be as cheap as you would think!)

[donaldsc]

Switch to HAL or Princess. You can bring as much as you want on board. We have brought 2 cases of wine on a longer HAL cruise.

 

DON

[PhoenixCruiser]

And your point is???????????????? All these people were in their 20's, maybe the cruise line should require age appropiate bracelets, so us over 30 plus year olds can be treated as the adults that we are and have a bottle in our room if we wish:confused:

 

Great, you used the daily quota of questions marks on CC. Hope you are happy :p

 

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[suzyed]

Thanks Don!

We actually returned from a Princess cruise a few weeks ago. We brought on a case of wine, which we shared with some of our roll call members and our wait staff.

[Cuizer2]

Oh come on. Royal Caribbean is pushing their own booze all over the ship. And they have added All you can drink packages and all you can drink events. ( speakeasy nights). Watch the Inside Edition report. Responsible drinking is NOT their policy.

 

I think Royal Caribbean has the right to set policies to enhance their revenue but let's not kid ourselves that they are protecting passengers.

 

I think they should protect passengers but that is not what they do. They encourage over drinking.

 

I didn't claim they were trying to protect the passengers. They are trying to protect themselves from being sued.

[Poorplaya]

I was wondering about user suzyed's 3701 posts so I did some searching. It seems that suzyed is well aware of RCI's booze policy from as early as Aug 2, 2008 ( http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=820312&highlight=smuggling+booze&page=2 ) I'll quote it here for your convenience.

 

"Well I guess I am in the minority too..because if they were denying boarding, I would go elsewhere too. RCI is the only line that forbids bringing wine/champagne onboard...so there are plenty of other choices."

 

So yes, I do find this thread unbelievable!

 

Haha you just made my evening. Thx for this post. :D

[tanelicus]

I think it wouldn't hurt them to allow one or two bottles of wine or champagne (no liquor - just wine).

 

With that said, RCCL is running a business. They are there to make a profit. Overall the general cost of a cruise is a pretty good value and reasonble in my opinion. They need to have a way to make money. One way they make a great deal of their money is through alcohol sales.

 

It sounds like you have reasonable expectations. It would not hurt for RCCL to be reasonable as well.

[S.S.Oceanlover]

I'm with you, it should lighten, but I don't want to see ppl rocked drunk on my sailings... so I'll take the tighter restrictions to avoid the party boats.

 

However, I've picked small bottles of this and that up on land and was able to bring them on w/o them being taken. The key is to not have a lot.

 

Also, note that you can have a service local to the departure port deliver a 'gift' to your room and your champagne could be there waiting for you.

 

-J

 

so you are saying by allowing one bottle of wine per passenger on HAL, Princess, etc that makes them party boats?

 

It must be a riot on HAL after the seniors get pickled on their bottle of wine flying about the ship in their hovarounds. woohoo! Beep Beep Sonny!

 

Bill

[Davyjonesrugrat]

Boy aren't the board police out in force on here !!! No wonder people are scared to post on the boards.

 

The initial poster put up her reasons for looking else wHere, immediately being slated by some posters with sarcastic remarks.

 

:)

[Davyjonesrugrat]

Haha you just made my evening. Thx for this post. :D

 

[Charles4515]

I didn't claim they were trying to protect the passengers. They are trying to protect themselves from being sued.

 

They are not trying to protect themselves from being sued. They are protecting their profits. Much of their profit comes from onboard spending. Liquor is one of the best sellers.

[Iluvcruising2]

They are not trying to protect themselves from being sued. They are protecting their profits. Much of their profit comes from onboard spending. Liquor is one of the best sellers.

 

Indeed. How much is the average spend on liquor?

 

A lot, at least for the non-Asian cruiser.

 

However, Asians drink a lot less, but gamble more at the casino. (generally speaking)

[Heidils]

They are not trying to protect themselves from being sued. They are protecting their profits. Much of their profit comes from onboard spending. Liquor is one of the best sellers.

 

Charles, I enjoy your posts and viewpoints. (not sarcastic, serious)

[TEXASMUNK]

Has anyone else noticed how some have turned the word PROFIT into a dirty word?

The policy came after the Smith death on that Med cruise...YES, RCI PROFITS on booze, but it also protects them from future lawsuits.

 

PROFIT

PROFIT

PROFIT

 

Whew, I said it three more times! guess that makes me evil too.

[Paulxyz2004]

Has anyone else noticed how some have turned the word PROFIT into a dirty word?

The policy came after the Smith death on that Med cruise...YES, RCI PROFITS on booze, but it also protects them from future lawsuits.

 

PROFIT

PROFIT

PROFIT

 

Whew, I said it three more times! guess that makes me evil too.

 

I agree with you in all points.

 

What I think is amazing, people keep stating how all other lines allow you to bring something. On ebottle, two bottles, wine, champagne, etc...

 

At the same time they completely deny that RCI´s policy has anything to do with the Smith and other cases of lawsuites and is only about revenue.

 

Of course revenue plays a part here, but if revenue is the only reason and RCI is the only line being so restrictive, does that mean RCI is the only line generating revenue from alcoholic drinks? :confused::rolleyes: