Roulette wheel. Why does red always come up more then black?

[emelvee]

If you put a chip on the red space and a chip on the black space (not a #, just the space on the side) and a chip on the odd# space and a chip on the even # space, your chances increase to 100% from 50% :D;):rolleyes: That is my system! :eek:

lol

 

Had a friend that had a "system" for roulette. He would wait until 6 or 7 (don't remember the exact number) of black or red came up in a row, then bet on the other color. He was certain that after 6 or 7 of one color, the odds were better that the next spin would be the opposite color. I don't think we were ever able to convince him otherwise.

[Colorado Kat]

But a coin flip isnt 50/50......

 

That is true. There is a 0.00732% chance it will land on it's edge. Try it, it works!

[Crusin Karen]

Craps has the lowest house advantage. BJ is fairly low if one is a skilled player. Slots typically have a very high house advantage overall.

 

I play blackjack almost exclusively.

If I lived to be 100 yo I don't think I would ever figure out craps. BJ I can do, but I am not a skilled player. I kind of add the numbers in my head! :cool: I have heard thru the grapevine that some of the better players don't enjoy having "amateurs" at the table with them? Is this true?

[Kanebaby]

13 rows of 3 numbers = 39 :rolleyes::rolleyes:

 

Ooops. 12 rows of 3 numbers. My bad. And i'm an accountant too. Thank God my boss doesn't come on this board. Or does he? :eek:

[emelvee]

Ooops. 12 rows of 3 numbers. My bad. And i'm an accountant too. Thank God my boss doesn't come on this board. Or does he? :eek:

 

You're Fired!

 

:p

[emelvee]

If I lived to be 100 yo I don't think I would ever figure out craps. BJ I can do, but I am not a skilled player. I kind of add the numbers in my head! :cool: I have heard thru the grapevine that some of the better players don't enjoy having "amateurs" at the table with them? Is this true?

Very much true, for some "skilled" players.

 

I don't really mind having "rookies" join in. I'm playing for fun for the most part. I figure there's a chance a "rookie" will screw up the round (by hitting when they're not "supposed to," or standing when they should hit), but also a chance it will help the table.

 

I've played blackjack and craps as long as I can remember...we had a small craps table as a kid, and dad loved to play. I can get intimidated by craps in a casino, however. I love playing blackjack when it's just me and the dealer, and the dealer is dealing as fast as s/he can.

[Crusin Karen]

Very much true, for some "skilled" players.

 

I don't really mind having "rookies" join in. I'm playing for fun for the most part. I figure there's a chance a "rookie" will screw up the round (by hitting when they're not "supposed to," or standing when they should hit), but also a chance it will help the table.

Now, see, right there....I don't know what you are talking about! :confused::confused: I'm thinking I will try to find a "lesson" on the computer before our next cruise and try my luck at a table! ;) I usually just watch while DH bets everything but our dog away! :(:(

[Earthworm Jim]

Very much true, for some "skilled" players.

 

I don't really mind having "rookies" join in. I'm playing for fun for the most part. I figure there's a chance a "rookie" will screw up the round by hitting when they're not "supposed to," or standing when they should hit), but also a chance it will help the table.

 

Now, see, right there....I don't know what you are talking about! :confused::confused: I'm thinking I will try to find a "lesson" on the computer before our next cruise and try my luck at a table! ;) I usually just watch while DH bets everything but our dog away! :(:(

 

What emelvee saying is that if you are before him as they go around the table, and with the cards you have the conventional move would be to stand with what you already have, but you take a another card instead, some players will feel you took the card that should have gone to them and get upset.

 

In reality, as emelvee says, even if one does look at it that way there is an equal chance you've helped them get a better card as there is you got them a worse card by hitting when you technically shouldn't. Statistics say they shouldn't care, but most gamblers are only gamblers because they aren't good at statistics.

[emelvee]

I believe most ships will offer free lessons to show you the basics of any of the games. It's in their interest to teach people how to play. :)

[golfb4cruzing]

Slotto and Aw Craps for Iphone. I've been studying and playing nightly for a couple of months. Hopefully I can go several days before losing it all again at the end of month cruise.:cool:

[ShakyBeef]

I think it has something to do with the Flux Capaciter,

 

Close, but not quite. The secret to the red pigment's gravitational pull (which Luddite was correct to point out) is the dilithium crystals.;)

[calliopecruiser]

Just curious: since you know the "behind the scenes"' of a casino more than the rest of us, if you were given $100 to play at ONE GAME TABLE what would it be? Roulette, BJ, craps, slots, etc??? :confused:

 

Play the game you enjoy playing. Odds are that you're going to lose the money anyway (eventually), so you might as well enjoy yourself. Personally, I enjoy playing Pai Gow Poker and 3 Card Poker (probably don't have them on cruise ships)......I may lose my money, but I enjoy the play.

[John Bull]

There is quite genuinely a guaranteed way to win on the roulette wheel. :):):)

 

Place a bet. If it loses, double your stake. If it loses, double your stake. If it loses, double your stake. Continue to double-up until you win. You will then walk away with more than the total that you have staked. Guaranteed. It's a true mathematical certainty.

You are almost certain to win within 38 spins, but you are still guaranteed to win more than your total stakes even if it takes a hundred spins.

 

If you don't believe me, check it through on a calculator.

Best if you make that a pretty big calculator - then you'll discover the one tiny flaw in the system :rolleyes:

 

JB :)

ps. works on red. Not sure about black :D

[Sinppu]

Close, but not quite. The secret to the red pigment's gravitational pull (which Luddite was correct to point out) is the dilithium crystals.;)

 

No no no. Did you not know that the dealer has a pedal which they step on so that the ball lands on the number no one has bet on?

 

Best if you make that a pretty big calculator - then you'll discover the one tiny flaw in the system :rolleyes:

 

JB :)

ps. works on red. Not sure about black :D

 

John, I promise I'll try this as soon as I'm a millionaire. Before that... well yeah, you know.

[ShakyBeef]

No no no. Did you not know that the dealer has a pedal which they step on so that the ball lands on the number no one has bet on?

 

Of course. Everyone knows that. But it's the dilithium crystals that make the ball go to red (but of course to a red number with no bets on it) when said pedal is stepped upon.:cool:

[navybankerteacher]

Since there is only 2 options on a coin flip and it has to land on one, a coin flip is indeed 50/50.

 

Not quite: there is always the chance, admittedly extremely slight, that the coin could land on its edge; so why don't we say 500,000,000,000/500,000,000,000/1 -- surely you might agree that the edge landing might occur one in every 1,000,000,000,001 tosses.

[navybankerteacher]

I use to deal Blackjack, Craps and Roulette for 20 years in Atlantic City. And have to say, I laughed so hard at these posts.

 

All Carnival cruise ships use an American Roulette wheel which consist of 37 numbers, but the highest pay-out is only 35 to 1. (this should be your first warning you are being played by the casino) If you are lucky enough to find a Europeon Roulette wheel elsewhere, this will have 36 numbers as there is no 00, but the highest pay-out is still only 35 to 1 (casino still has an edge).

 

If you think that only playing red will make you a winner, you are wrong. It makes you lucky for a short amount of time. Please remember that a roulette wheel is calibrated daily, the little white ball is changed out during every shift. A dealer could find themselves in hot water is they are caught lookiing at the wheel when they release the ball.

 

Those towers that display what numbers, colors, odd/evens have recently come up are all there to let the player THINK they have an edge. And that little white ball that spins around???? It has no memory! If the number 30 comes up, the next spin the odds are still 37 to 1 that 30 will come up again - which is the same odds that the number 13 will come up.

 

If you do have a system............ you will be detected and if the casino feels you have won too much money from that system, they are within their legal rights to refuse your action.

 

 

Finally......If you feel the need to gamble, please remember that the casino is there to take your money. The rules are set up to give the house an overwhelming advantage. Have people won? Of course they have - but only 5.26% of the people who walk into a casino will walk out with more money than they walked in with. So 94.74% of the people will donate there money to the casino.

 

Question is: are you feeling lucky?????????????????

 

Your numbers are off: there are 38 numbers on an American wheel 1 through 36 (18 red and 18 black) and 0 and 00 (both green). vs 37 on the European wheel with just the 0 green.

[YubaSutter]

Not quite: there is always the chance, admittedly extremely slight, that the coin could land on its edge; so why don't we say 500,000,000,000/500,000,000,000/1 -- surely you might agree that the edge landing might occur one in every 1,000,000,000,001 tosses.

 

Nope. I don't agree.

[navybankerteacher]

There is quite genuinely a guaranteed way to win on the roulette wheel. :):):)

 

Place a bet. If it loses, double your stake. If it loses, double your stake. If it loses, double your stake. Continue to double-up until you win. You will then walk away with more than the total that you have staked. Guaranteed. It's a true mathematical certainty.

You are almost certain to win within 38 spins, but you are still guaranteed to win more than your total stakes even if it takes a hundred spins.

 

If you don't believe me, check it through on a calculator.

Best if you make that a pretty big calculator - then you'll discover the one tiny flaw in the system :rolleyes:

 

JB :)

ps. works on red. Not sure about black :D

 

Your system will work given three conditions:

 

a) Your number (or color, if you are just betting red or black) finally comes up before the doubling and re-doubling results in your stake requiring more money than exists in the universe: it does not take that many doublings to reach that point.

 

b) You do not come up against a house or table limit before your number comes up.

 

c) You can retain faith in your system even if you lose just, say, nineteen times in a row: at a $5 table your twentieth bet would be more than $2,600,000.

[navybankerteacher]

Nope. I don't agree.

 

I'm willing to consider longer odds -- just how many flips do you think it might take before the coin lands on its edge?

[aohkay]

I'm afraid if I keep winning they wont let me play any more.Thanks

 

Barred from the casino and barred from the Bingo Hall. :(

[Sinppu]

b) You do not come up against a house or table limit before your number comes up.

 

c) You can retain faith in your system even if you lose just, say, nineteen times in a row: at a $5 table your twentieth bet would be more than $2,600,000.

 

Yup, these are the flaws :D

[SusanSmithJr]

There is quite genuinely a guaranteed way to win on the roulette wheel. :):):)

 

Place a bet. If it loses, double your stake. If it loses, double your stake. If it loses, double your stake. Continue to double-up until you win. You will then walk away with more than the total that you have staked. Guaranteed. It's a true mathematical certainty.

You are almost certain to win within 38 spins, but you are still guaranteed to win more than your total stakes even if it takes a hundred spins.

 

 

That system is known as the Martingale. An old system that can work if you have an unlimited bankroll and the casino offers unlimited wagering limits.

 

“No one can possibly win at roulette unless he steals money from the table while the croupier isn’t looking.” — Albert Einstein

 

I have spent many years in casinos. I have actually made a living at poker for a few years. But in the end, eventually, the house will get your money.

 

I have one system that works every time. That's right! Every Time!

 

I call it the Lowered Expectation System. First step is to figure how much money you will gamble (lose) during your vacation.

 

Next, take all that money and put it on red... no wait black... second thought make it red. Any bet close to fifty-fifty will work.

 

Then walk away.

 

If you lose, oh well. If you win, they'll call you back to the table to get your winnings.

 

Now you're free to enjoy your vacation. If you won you can now go first class, see the shows, go to the fancy restuarant, buy a gift for the missus, spend time in the sunshine with the family. If you lost, same thing except you have to go on the economy plan.

 

Additionally, one could use the Lowered Expectation System with the "Parlay" system. That is, you can bet all your money and let it ride (parlay) for a predetermined number of rounds. For instance, $100 is placed on red and wins. The two hundred dollars is allowed to parlay and if it wins you are now at $400. You must predetermine the number of parlays and stick to it for the system to work. Don't chicken-out at $64,000, just one more spin will send the oldest to college!

[Sinppu]

I have actually made a living at poker for a few years. But in the end, eventually, the house will get your money.

 

 

You do know (as an ex-poker pro) that it isn't the house that gets your money in poker, right?

Just checking :cool:

[SusanSmithJr]

You do know (as an ex-poker pro) that it isn't the house that gets your money in poker, right?

Just checking :cool:

 

It does. The rake is a killer, ten percent at many card clubs, twenty percent for tournaments on cruise ships. Then the tipping adds up over a year or two.