SailingSiggy Posted March 26, 2014 Author #26 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I'm sure the RCI executives at the New York Quantum Dining Reveal will be rushing through it to get caught up on the Grandeur damage. Eric Only info so far I've seen from someone a the dining reveal was that after 55 minutes they hadn't told them anything lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomperaugrr Posted March 26, 2014 #27 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) I tried to brighten up the original photo. I put in two yellow arrows to show the reported damage. There must be some glass damage from a wave impact like that. Maybe it was just a few guests that spent way too much time at the Windjammer. Edited March 26, 2014 by Pomperaugrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailer19 Posted March 26, 2014 #28 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The only thing I could find doing an internet search was the wave that killed a passenger on the Marco Polo in Feb. Hopefully it's not true but if it is, I hope and pray that everyone is okay. Scary situation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aprylstar Posted March 26, 2014 #29 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Scary! We are leaving in the grandeur April 5! Hoping everyone us safe. Sent from my SGH-I717D using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomperaugrr Posted March 26, 2014 #30 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The only thing I could find doing an internet search was the wave that killed a passenger on the Marco Polo in Feb. Hopefully it's not true but if it is, I hope and pray that everyone is okay. Scary situation! The Grandeur is still 688 nautical miles out from Baltimore. That monster storm off the east coast may have a had some influence in creating that wave. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseKeeper Posted March 26, 2014 #31 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I tried to brighten up the original photo. I put in two yellow arrows to show the reported damage. There must be some glass damage from a wave impact like that. Maybe it was just a few guests that spent way too much time at the Windjammer. Much clearer, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MandyMooToo Posted March 26, 2014 #32 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I tried to brighten up the original photo. I put in two yellow arrows to show the reported damage. There must be some glass damage from a wave impact like that. Maybe it was just a few guests that spent way too much time at the Windjammer. Thank you, I could not see the damage until you lightened it and put in the arrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comxkid Posted March 26, 2014 #33 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Nothing confirmed that I can find and only the one report. I would have never put it up without seeing the picture first. I am positive that a week or so ago someone posted a photo of a large crack in Deck 10 of Grandeur. Either here or on a FB page but I have not been able to go back and find it. The ship did indeed go through bad weather a couple of weeks ago and based on satellite photos of the Atlantic today, it looks like the ship is near another area of disturbed weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailer19 Posted March 26, 2014 #34 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The Grandeur is still 688 nautical miles out from Baltimore. That monster storm off the east coast may have a had some influence in creating that wave. Eric Never really thought about that, it's suppose to be nasty, nasty storm. Hopefully someone will post soon on the truth to this and will let us know if anyone was injured. Also hoping that ship wasn't damaged too much. Like I said before, Scary Situation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD Posted March 26, 2014 #35 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) I wish there was a better picture, I can't quite make out the damage. BTW, I think I'm leaving on the Grandeur on Friday. :eek: She's supposed to be in Port Canaveral on Sunday, are you on a repositioning cruise? I could look it up I suppose but I'm feeling lazy after a big lunch. Hope it all works out for you. Addendum: Got some energy, looked it up. It seems PC is a stop on an 8 day out of Baltimore. Hope to see her there this Sunday. Edited March 26, 2014 by DrD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseKeeper Posted March 26, 2014 #36 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) She's supposed to be in Port Canaveral on Sunday, are you on a repositioning cruise? I could look it up I suppose but I'm feeling lazy after a big lunch. Hope it all works out for you. We are doing 8 nights to the Bahamas. Thanks for the hopes. Edited March 26, 2014 by CruiseKeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomperaugrr Posted March 26, 2014 #37 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) There is a strong front located right near the Grandeur's position. It is the higher of the two fronts on this current satellite photo. Grandeur is south and west of Bermuda, halfway between the mainland and Bermuda. Edited March 26, 2014 by Pomperaugrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharse Posted March 26, 2014 #38 Share Posted March 26, 2014 EEK… we're headed out on this ship in a few weeks. I'll anxiously follow this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NorbertsNiece Posted March 26, 2014 #39 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Oy. SMH. Hope all on board are safe and well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comxkid Posted March 26, 2014 #40 Share Posted March 26, 2014 There are some big waves coming out of this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DgBg100106 Posted March 26, 2014 #41 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I have seen nothing posted beyond what is on Facebook, nothing on the news outlets or from RCI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 26, 2014 #42 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Looking at the photo, I'm a little skeptical that that is a deck that has collapsed. While the wood caps do appear to be missing on some sections of both the inboard and outboard handrails on deck 10, the steel handrails at the outboard side appear to be intact, and if a wave of sufficient strength to tear that deck loose had hit, those handrails would either be gone completely, or folded over so that they would not be visible. Since this is an open deck, even a large quantity of water is not confined, and wouldn't provide enough load to tear a steel deck from the side of the ship without distorting the side of the ship as well, and the deck 9 window frames look okay. I'm guessing that this was an overhead covering on the bottom of deck 10 that came down. I would suspect that this was caused by a wind whirling around inside the pool deck area. The ship may have actually struck a rogue wave, but this kind of damage (if it was the deck), this high on the ship, would have resulted in far greater damage elsewhere. Another possibility is that the rogue wave caused a shock to the ship's structure, that caused the overhead covering to come down. I've seen this kind of damage (overheads coming down) caused by high seas myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomperaugrr Posted March 26, 2014 #43 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Looking at the photo, I'm a little skeptical that that is a deck that has collapsed. While the wood caps do appear to be missing on some sections of both the inboard and outboard handrails on deck 10, the steel handrails at the outboard side appear to be intact, and if a wave of sufficient strength to tear that deck loose had hit, those handrails would either be gone completely, or folded over so that they would not be visible. Since this is an open deck, even a large quantity of water is not confined, and wouldn't provide enough load to tear a steel deck from the side of the ship without distorting the side of the ship as well, and the deck 9 window frames look okay. I'm guessing that this was an overhead covering on the bottom of deck 10 that came down. I would suspect that this was caused by a wind whirling around inside the pool deck area. The ship may have actually struck a rogue wave, but this kind of damage (if it was the deck), this high on the ship, would have resulted in far greater damage elsewhere. Another possibility is that the rogue wave caused a shock to the ship's structure, that caused the overhead covering to come down. I've seen this kind of damage (overheads coming down) caused by high seas myself. I tend to agree with your assessment. I do not see any daylight coming in what would be a gaping opening, if the entire steel deck surface collapsed. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailingSiggy Posted March 26, 2014 Author #44 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I have seen nothing posted beyond what is on Facebook, nothing on the news outlets or from RCI. Ship will probably be back in Baltimore Friday before RCI says anything official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomperaugrr Posted March 26, 2014 #45 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Looking at the photo a little closer, it looks like there is a bunch of Sargassum Seaweed on the deck to the left of the hot tub. As the Grandeur is at the northern portion of the Sargasso Sea, it does lend credence to the rogue wave theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseKeeper Posted March 26, 2014 #46 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Looking at the photo a little closer, it looks like there is a bunch of Sargassum Seaweed on the deck to the left of the hot tub. As the Grandeur is at the northern portion of the Sargasso Sea, it does lend credence to the rogue wave theory. I see that. And yet they straightened out the deck chairs and didn't clean up the sea weed. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted March 26, 2014 #47 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I see that. And yet they straightened out the deck chairs and didn't clean up the sea weed. :confused: Isn't that just wet deck from someone who got out of the hot tub? It looks to have started from the stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykitteh Posted March 26, 2014 #48 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I see that. And yet they straightened out the deck chairs and didn't clean up the sea weed. :confused: LOL Maybe the deck chairs is one dept. and seaweed removal another? Though it does look like the may have closed the upper deck if the chairs are all neatly stacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEIx15x8 Posted March 26, 2014 #49 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) I'm having a hard time believing the rogue wave story. They do happen, but this doesn't look like one. The part that collapsed is not the deck, but a wooden grid with cloth over it. This does tend to flex and move in the winds. The railings on the top deck are missing on both sides as well but do not appear damaged. At the same time something that had enough force to tear the inside railing off did not leave anymore water on the pool deck than you typically see from people getting in and out of the hot tubs. The deck chairs on deck 10 also appear to be stacked and placed in a different location by choice, rather than thrown there as a rogue wave would do. I'm more inclined to believe that they were working on that section of deck to do some refurbishments. Perhaps they are replacing those railings and cleared the chairs out of the way. The ceiling falling down could be completely unrelated (may have been loosened in the last storm) or a result of some of the work on the surface above it. We have all been on cruises and know how easily rumors are started. Something happens and people start theorizing and others build upon it as its spread and then eventually it starts being spoken as fact. This isn't the same spot, but it'll give you an idea of what the ceiling on that deck of Grandeur looks like. Edited March 26, 2014 by DEIx15x8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summersigh Posted March 26, 2014 #50 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I tried to brighten up the original photo. I put in two yellow arrows to show the reported damage. There must be some glass damage from a wave impact like that. Maybe it was just a few guests that spent way too much time at the Windjammer. Thanks for doing that ... it helps a lot. Hope all is well. We sail her later this spring :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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