SinbadThePorter Posted March 11, 2015 #1 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Does anyone think that the cruise lines could make more use of the islands of Indonesia and the Philippines? I was just musing a bit on how the East Caribbean cruises operate and how that might relate to Australia. In the US you can get cheap flights to Fort Lauderdale or Port Canaveral and jump on a ship for a 7 day cruise hitting a port nearly every night. It occurred to me that Darwin might do the same job for Oz cruisers. There are some ports in the region being visited such as Benoa, Lombok, Komodo and Puerto Princessa, but these seem to be infrequent and only on repositioning trips. Dili, Makassar and Balikpapan come to mind as potentially interesting ports. Would it make sense to expand in the region from Darwin rather than trying to service everyone from Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane? Which when you consider it, are a long way from anywhere. It might also improve the cruise choices available in the winter months. Edited March 11, 2015 by SinbadThePorter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Kruzer Posted March 11, 2015 #2 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The possibilities are mind boggling. It could easily be done. Think of the boom for Darwin. They could arrange charter planes to fly passengers in and out on the same day or offer pre/post cruise stays. I have always thought that area is ideal for cruising. Imagine a triangle . Darwin the home port. .....then up through the Indonesian Islands to Singapore.....choice of flying home or carrying on to Philippines .....then down through Guam, Saipan perhaps Raboul ,PNG and back to Darwin. Choice...:):) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseCriticAUeditor Posted March 11, 2015 #3 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I often ask cruise lines why they don't do this. The common response is there is no demand in Darwin and people wouldn't fly there for a cruise. I think they would - just to try something different. SE Asia is bursting with beautiful islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 11, 2015 #4 Share Posted March 11, 2015 If they offer a few cruises like that and see how they sell, they will soon know. I think it may also be a case of build it and they will come.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opua Kiwi Posted March 11, 2015 #5 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think they would - just to try something different. SE Asia is bursting with beautiful islands. Agree. Kiwis for example regularly fly to SYD and BNE and occasionally to PER for cruises. Would certainly consider DWN. Especially, as you say, for places in Indonesia, Philippines, and Micronesia. Now, if only they hadn't gone and sold the lovely little Ocean on us, she would have been perfect for the role. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie FF Posted March 11, 2015 #6 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Agreeing. I have been to Darwin twice now on cruises and loved it.:D It would make no difference to me to fly there, as I always have to fly to Sydney, and sometimes Brisbane, or O/S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaechann Posted March 11, 2015 #7 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Great idea! I'd be more than happy to fly to Darwin (again) to jump on a cruise ship. The Legend next year is going to Hong Kong via the Philippines but before that we have to cruise the usual East Coast route from Sydney which we've done several times now! A FB post to the various companies perhaps to stir them up? Gae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickays Posted March 11, 2015 #8 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Christmas and Cocos Islands out from W.A. would be great to be included in cruise too. Never seen a cruise ship stop there unless it was a medical evac! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinbadThePorter Posted March 11, 2015 Author #9 Share Posted March 11, 2015 If they offer a few cruises like that and see how they sell, they will soon know. I think it may also be a case of build it and they will come.:D I think if they bundled the cruise from Darwin with return flights it would be a winner. It seems to me that you could design a nice little one week cruise from Darwin that would beat the Sydney one week cruises. Seven days from Sydney barely gets you to Noumea and back. From Darwin you could touch four or five interesting ports in the trip. In a fortnight you could get to Singapore or Manilla and back easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted March 11, 2015 #10 Share Posted March 11, 2015 As long as it's Syd-Syd I don't care where they go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MMDown Under Posted March 11, 2015 #11 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Expensive cruiselines, such as Silversea, are already doing it. So hopefully, smaller mass market ships, at a more affordable cost, will follow. I'm amazed that the cruiselines say there is no demand. Australians fly all over the world to join cruises overseas, why wouldn't they fly to Darwin to cruise, especially in winter? Maybe they need to do some research into where Australians like to travel in winter - north! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandM-nq Posted March 11, 2015 #12 Share Posted March 11, 2015 How about from Cairns? So destination is not Indonesia, but still could be interesting. P & O bought 2 smaller ships (from Holland America) recently. They are basing one of them in Cairns for a few months in 2016 - The Pacific Eden (formerly MS Ryndam ). Pacific Eden’s Cairns season from September to November 2016 will feature eight roundtrip cruises including: • Four x seven-night cruises to the islands of Papua New Guinea visiting the beautiful ports of Alotau, Kitava Island, Kiriwina Island, Doini Island, and Kawanasausau Strait and Milne Bay (scenic cruising) • Two x 10-night cruises to the islands of Papua New Guinea visiting Alotau, Kitava Island, Rabaul, Gizo Island and Honiara in the Solomon Islands • An 11-night Pacific cruise to Vanuatu • A three-night comedy-themed P&OSeaBreak cruise ideal for first time cruisers. Not sure how long term this is. Guess if P & O fill the ship, it could continue on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esilef Posted March 11, 2015 #13 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We are on the rhapsody repositioning cruise going sydney, Brisbane, Airlie beach Darwin Bali & Singapore p. Really love how different this itinerary is. There has been quiet a few really good repositioning cruise itineraries which would be great to do during the cruise season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3littlepigs Posted March 11, 2015 #14 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We would normally never consider P&O but have looked at the cruises on the new acquisition sailing out of Cairns and are seriously thinking about it, those ports in PNG are very tempting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassamanda Posted March 11, 2015 #15 Share Posted March 11, 2015 We would normally never consider P&O but have looked at the cruises on the new acquisition sailing out of Cairns and are seriously thinking about it, those ports in PNG are very tempting. Agree with you on that one. One of our sons live in Townsville, might be able to entice him as a new cruiser:) Agree also with the OP but winter months only as summer is too hot and wet. Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 11, 2015 #16 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Agreed with winter months, too many cyclones in the summer /autumn.:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacs Posted March 11, 2015 #17 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Oh I would love that! As long as they get the season right. Even throw in some scenic Kimberley coast cruising and Broome or Exmouth for Ningaloo reef and Whale sharks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy1948 Posted March 11, 2015 #18 Share Posted March 11, 2015 As long as it's Syd-Syd I don't care where they go. LOL....trust you :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy1948 Posted March 11, 2015 #19 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think it would be a wonderful idea - gateway to Asia - and other little side visits - Christmas Island etc. I suppose the weather would play a big part - but then again- going to NZ is "seasonal" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi_cruiser Posted March 11, 2015 #20 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Christmas and Cocos Islands out from W.A. would be great to be included in cruise too. Never seen a cruise ship stop there unless it was a medical evac! I have been to Christmas Island on a cruise ship :) We did a cruise from W.A on P&O Australia's Pacific Sun and we where the first cruise ship to dock there (We did not know if we could dock there!!). The Pacific Sun only went there twice and on the 2nd time she got an escort from the Australia navy from the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted March 11, 2015 #21 Share Posted March 11, 2015 LOL....trust you :p You mean as in "Trust me I'm a liar" Or you mean "Yep expect that from that one" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 11, 2015 #22 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I have been to Christmas Island on a cruise ship :) We did a cruise from W.A on P&O Australia's Pacific Sun and we where the first cruise ship to dock there (We did not know if we could dock there!!). The Pacific Sun only went there twice and on the 2nd time she got an escort from the Australia navy from the area. Turning back the boats:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joybook Posted March 11, 2015 #23 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yes, we need something other than New Zealand and/or the Pacific Islands. You can do these just so many times - we need a change. I see that we are now getting occasional cruises that include Rabaul and a couple of ther PNG stops. By beef though is that as I spent some years in PNG why can't they include Port Moresby and Lae on their itineraries. While I am not completely familiar with Lae I know from first hand experience that Port Moresby has a deep-sea harbour and certainly used to have adequate docking facilities. They would both be great places to visit with spots around for great tours.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzy1948 Posted March 11, 2015 #24 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) or you mean "yep expect that from that one" That's it :D:D:D Edited March 11, 2015 by dizzy1948 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted March 11, 2015 #25 Share Posted March 11, 2015 That's it :D:D:D Boy now I'm hurt. You know deep down inside where my heart used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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