ducklite Posted May 27, 2015 #101 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I agree that generally the refusal will be polite, but almost everywhere they will be refused. Would Americans expect our merchants to take pounds? Of course not. Trying to use another countries currency is a prime example of "Ugly Americanism." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted May 27, 2015 #102 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Sure some places may take them [and take you to the cleaners on exchange rate] but many many more will look at you like you've got three heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Turtles06 Posted May 27, 2015 #103 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I agree that generally the refusal will be polite, but almost everywhere they will be refused. Would Americans expect our merchants to take pounds? Of course not. Trying to use another countries currency is a prime example of "Ugly Americanism." I agree with you that many of our fellow Americans are guilty of assuming that everyone abroad speaks English, that our dollars should be accepted everywhere, etc. But there are actually some places in the world where the local currency is so worthless (Argentina, for example) that many there WANT to be paid in U.S. dollars. (We have experienced this visiting Egypt as well as Argentina.) I don't think any American should expect to be able to use U.S. dollars in places like the UK or Ireland, but there are, unfortunately, some countries in the world where it's a legitimate question to ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted May 27, 2015 #104 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I agree with you that many of our fellow Americans are guilty of assuming that everyone abroad speaks English, that our dollars should be accepted everywhere, etc. But there are actually some places in the world where the local currency is so worthless (Argentina, for example) that many there WANT to be paid in U.S. dollars. (We have experienced this visiting Egypt as well as Argentina.) I don't think any American should expect to be able to use U.S. dollars in places like the UK or Ireland, but there are, unfortunately, some countries in the world where it's a legitimate question to ask. If we are speaking of the very few countries where the U.S. Dollar is readily accepted and actually preferred, I agree. However this thread is specific to the UK. I live in Orlando where there are as many Brits as there are Americans, and I assure you that if a Brit tried to pay with pounds they would be looked at like they were crazy. I'm guessing most Americans wouldn't recognize a pound from Monopoly money.-- most don't even know what Canadian currency looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celle Posted May 27, 2015 #105 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I agree with you that many of our fellow Americans are guilty of assuming that everyone abroad speaks English, that our dollars should be accepted everywhere, etc. But there are actually some places in the world where the local currency is so worthless (Argentina, for example) that many there WANT to be paid in U.S. dollars. (We have experienced this visiting Egypt as well as Argentina.) I don't think any American should expect to be able to use U.S. dollars in places like the UK or Ireland, but there are, unfortunately, some countries in the world where it's a legitimate question to ask. But don't you understand that we might find it rather insulting to be classed along with those countries with a tin-pot economy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shogun Posted May 27, 2015 #106 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Hi All Time for a quote, Do not try and understand them and do not try to make them understand you, that is because they are a breed a part and make no sense Yours Shogun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Turtles06 Posted May 27, 2015 #107 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) If we are speaking of the very few countries where the U.S. Dollar is readily accepted and actually preferred, I agree. However this thread is specific to the UK. I live in Orlando where there are as many Brits as there are Americans, and I assure you that if a Brit tried to pay with pounds they would be looked at like they were crazy. I'm guessing most Americans wouldn't recognize a pound from Monopoly money.-- most don't even know what Canadian currency looks like. But don't you understand that we might find it rather insulting to be classed along with those countries with a tin-pot economy? Agreed, and I thought I was clear that the UK is not in that category of countries, and it really is wrong of Americans to think our dollars would readily be accepted. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough. Edited May 27, 2015 by Turtles06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsrdsrdsr Posted May 27, 2015 #108 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I think taking offence because an American doesn't understand the UK is a bit over the top. Surprise, maybe. Offence, why? They weren't trying to be insulting. Quite a lot of countries like US dollars, ducklite. Not just a very few. In most of the Caribbean, most of Africa, and much of South America, the locals (not usually the government agencies) like US dollars. The more informal the sales outlet, the more likely to want US dollars. I once saw a sign in Egypt selling a pack of postcards for "1 pound, 1 dollar, or 1 mark". The price in Egyptian pounds wasn't mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted May 28, 2015 #109 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I think taking offence because an American doesn't understand the UK is a bit over the top. Surprise, maybe. Offence, why? They weren't trying to be insulting. Quite a lot of countries like US dollars, ducklite. Not just a very few. In most of the Caribbean, most of Africa, and much of South America, the locals (not usually the government agencies) like US dollars. The more informal the sales outlet, the more likely to want US dollars. I once saw a sign in Egypt selling a pack of postcards for "1 pound, 1 dollar, or 1 mark". The price in Egyptian pounds wasn't mentioned. The reality is that so many Americans are provincial at best and boorish and self-absorbed at worst that despite what they were taught in fifth grade, they don't have the common sense to think that currency, cultural norms, languages, travel directions, etc. could be different. As an American I find it increasingly frustrating that my fellow country men are so lazy to not take a minute to learn what the preferred currency is in another land. Am I a perfect traveler? I try, but I am sure I have broken a cultural "unwritten rule" by accident once or twice. Over tipped, walked on the wrong side on the stairs or sidewalk, and probably told a shop girl that the scarf I was admiring was "a very pretty grasshopper" due to poor pronounciation. The difference is that I try to meld in and be as considerate and unobtrusive as possible when in a foreign country by spending a bit of time to learn some phrases and words in their language, wearing clothing that allows me to blend in, and learning the local customs in terms of everything from ordering in a restaurant to the type of public loo to expect. I'd also point out that some of the Caribbean takes US dollars grudgingly, and most of the African countries that prefer US dollars are in such economic agony due to internal political strife that they will take pretty much any currency offered, with a preference towards those with stable economies of which the U.S not the only one and not the most stable by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celle Posted May 29, 2015 #110 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I wouldn't mind so much if it didn't happen so frequently. Hardly a week goes by without the same, or a very similar, question being asked. As my place of residence alternates between 2 countries (dual nationality) I probably see the same question asked more frequently than some. "Can I use my US dollars in . . . .(substitute UK, New Zealand, or Australia)?" While you may be able to use your US dollars in some places that are tourist-orientated, by and large, you will need the local currencies. If you insist on using US dollars, you probably won't get a good rate of exchange and you will receive change in the local currency. You can use credit cards and all these countries have ATM machines where you can obtain local currency cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddingtonbear Posted May 30, 2015 #111 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I agree with ducklite. I went to a pub in Ireland and they had quite a few foreign currency notes pinned to the ceiling. I thought they must had been obsolete currency until I saw a current AUD $10. They said it is not worth it to exchange the (money wise and effort wise) so the just decorate the ceiling with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchestrapal Posted May 30, 2015 #112 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The reality is that so many Americans are provincial at best and boorish and self-absorbed at worst that despite what they were taught in fifth grade, they don't have the common sense to think that currency, cultural norms, languages, travel directions, etc. could be different. As an American I find it increasingly frustrating that my fellow country men are so lazy to not take a minute to learn what the preferred currency is in another land. Am I a perfect traveler? I try, but I am sure I have broken a cultural "unwritten rule" by accident once or twice. Over tipped, walked on the wrong side on the stairs or sidewalk, and probably told a shop girl that the scarf I was admiring was "a very pretty grasshopper" due to poor The difference is that I try to meld in and be as considerate and unobtrusive as possible when in a foreign country by spending a bit of time to learn some phrases and words in their language, wearing clothing that allows me to blend in, and learning the local customs in terms of everything from ordering in a restaurant to the type of public loo to expect. I'd also point out that some of the Caribbean takes US dollars grudgingly, and most of the African countries that prefer US dollars are in such economic agony due to internal political strife that they will take pretty much any currency offered, with a preference towards those with stable economies of which the U.S not the only one and not the most stable by any means. You said it so well. This is where the " ugly American" comes from. Many have still not learned how to be guests in foreign countries, sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisiamc Posted May 30, 2015 #113 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I think taking offence because an American doesn't understand the UK is a bit over the top. Surprise, maybe. Offence, why? They weren't trying to be insulting. Quite a lot of countries like US dollars, ducklite. Not just a very few. In most of the Caribbean, most of Africa, and much of South America, the locals (not usually the government agencies) like US dollars. The more informal the sales outlet, the more likely to want US dollars. I once saw a sign in Egypt selling a pack of postcards for "1 pound, 1 dollar, or 1 mark". The price in Egyptian pounds wasn't mentioned. I'm guessing that this was at least partly because people who had enough nous to change their money, and actual Egyptians living in Egypt, were not their target market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsrdsrdsr Posted May 30, 2015 #114 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I'm guessing that this was at least partly because people who had enough nous to change their money, and actual Egyptians living in Egypt, were not their target market. No, it was because they wanted foreign currency, not Egyptian. They particularly like US dollars because it's paper. I have been asked by an Egyptian trader to change five £1 coins for a £5 note; they are limited in their use of foreign coins, but foreign paper money is what they really want. A lot of Egyptians are not convinced that their government and their currency are stable and will last for ever. They are more confident about the US and other governments; and if, God forbid, there is a domestic collapse or a civil war, the man with the dollars is the rich man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newport dave Posted May 30, 2015 #115 Share Posted May 30, 2015 No, it was because they wanted foreign currency, not Egyptian. They particularly like US dollars because it's paper. I have been asked by an Egyptian trader to change five £1 coins for a £5 note; they are limited in their use of foreign coins, but foreign paper money is what they really want. A lot of Egyptians are not convinced that their government and their currency are stable and will last for ever. They are more confident about the US and other governments; and if, God forbid, there is a domestic collapse or a civil war, the man with the dollars is the rich man. This as been the case in places like Egypt, Turkey etc. for years. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celle Posted May 31, 2015 #116 Share Posted May 31, 2015 This has been the case in places like Egypt, Turkey etc. for years. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk I agree, but the UK, NZ, and Australia are not like those countries - and I guess we don't like the assumption that they are. These countries have (relatively) stable governments and currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newport dave Posted May 31, 2015 #117 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I agree, but the UK, NZ, and Australia are not like those countries - and I guess we don't like the assumption that they are. These countries have (relatively) stable governments and currency. I know, I live in the UK. I was just stating that those countries have preferred £,$ for years not just recently because of the financial crash like the above poster said. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted May 31, 2015 #118 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I wonder what would happen if I plonked down some Aussie plastic dollars in America?? I guess I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanemagnet Posted May 31, 2015 #119 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) A lot of Egyptians are not convinced that their government and their currency are stable and will last for ever. They are more confident about the US and other governments; and if, God forbid, there is a domestic collapse or a civil war, the man with the dollars is the rich man. Over half of all US currency in circulation is held outside the US. Edited May 31, 2015 by insanemagnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celle Posted May 31, 2015 #120 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Over half of all US currency in circulation is held outside the US. Do you think that makes it more acceptable to the countries that don't need it? I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Nit Noy Posted May 31, 2015 #121 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I agree, but the UK, NZ, and Australia are not like those countries - and I guess we don't like the assumption that they are. These countries have (relatively) stable governments and currency. I hate to say this about many of my fellow countrymen, but too many Americans are so provincial they aren't assuming anything about the UK, NZ, and Australia. They know so little of the world that they really aren't equating countries with vibrant, stable economies with those with shaky economies. They sincerely think everything about the US is so desirable that they can't see that their question is naive and unaware. Their lack of knowledge is depressing enough. No need to add malice to their question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted May 31, 2015 #122 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I wonder what would happen if I plonked down some Aussie plastic dollars in America?? I guess I know. They would not accept them unless you were at a currency exchange. Most U.S. Banks wouldn't even exchange them unless you are an account holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Turtles06 Posted May 31, 2015 #123 Share Posted May 31, 2015 I hate to say this about many of my fellow countrymen, but too many Americans are so provincial they aren't assuming anything about the UK, NZ, and Australia. They know so little of the world that they really aren't equating countries with vibrant, stable economies with those with shaky economies. They sincerely think everything about the US is so desirable that they can't see that their question is naive and unaware. Their lack of knowledge is depressing enough. No need to add malice to their question! My favorite American abroad story (and I am an American as well): Ten years ago, during our first trip to Paris, I had climbed up late one day to the Towers of Notre Dame. It was of course beyond spectacular to be up there, almost reverential as I marveled at the beautiful city spread out before me. Suddenly, the silence was punctuated by an American woman who exclaimed, VERY LOUDLY, in English, "I wonder what river that is down there?" I was mortified. I think one of the things that amazed me so much was that the woman had actually gotten herself to Europe, and to Paris specifically, and yet still had so little knowledge about where she was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchestrapal Posted May 31, 2015 #124 Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) My favorite American abroad story (and I am an American as well): Ten years ago, during our first trip to Paris, I had climbed up late one day to the Towers of Notre Dame. It was of course beyond spectacular to be up there, almost reverential as I marveled at the beautiful city spread out before me. Suddenly, the silence was punctuated by an American woman who exclaimed, VERY LOUDLY, in English, "I wonder what river that is down there?" I was mortified.I think one of the things that amazed me so much was that the woman had actually gotten herself to Europe, and to Paris specifically, and yet still had so little knowledge about where she was. Unfortunately we have had similar experiences. Many Americans travel just to be able to say, " I was there." Edited May 31, 2015 by orchestrapal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveH2508 Posted May 31, 2015 #125 Share Posted May 31, 2015 My favorite American abroad story (and I am an American as well): Ten years ago, during our first trip to Paris, I had climbed up late one day to the Towers of Notre Dame. It was of course beyond spectacular to be up there, almost reverential as I marveled at the beautiful city spread out before me. Suddenly, the silence was punctuated by an American woman who exclaimed, VERY LOUDLY, in English, "I wonder what river that is down there?" I was mortified. I think one of the things that amazed me so much was that the woman had actually gotten herself to Europe, and to Paris specifically, and yet still had so little knowledge about where she was. I would have been sooo tempted to say 'the English Channel' and then point to Sacre Couer and tell her it is St Pauls Cathedral - Great view eh?:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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