BklynBoy8 Posted September 15, 2023 #26 Share Posted September 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, lenquixote66 said: I have heard many people on cruises referring to a ship as a boat and never heard anyone take exception. Beg to differ with their reference.......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbwex Posted September 20, 2023 #27 Share Posted September 20, 2023 According to Merriam Webster, a ship is "a large seagoing vessel." The generally used saying, which has already been stated, is that a "ship carries a boat." According to Chapman's "Piloting, Seamanship and Small Boat Handing," in defining a "boat" says, "What is a boat? The term has no really precise definition. It is a water-borne vehicle smaller than a ship, which is usually thought of as being used for ocean travel. Indeed, one definition of a boat is a small craft carried aboard a ship, such as a lifeboat." There is no reason in the world to get too upset when someone uses the wrong term here, and I cannot imagine saying something to a stranger with whom I was not speaking. At the same time, it does show the person using the wrong term to perhaps be out of their depth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasbo49 Posted September 21, 2023 #28 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Obviously, ship is the correct term. But how can people so bent on correctness refer to cruising the Caribbean on a 3,000-passenger vessel as "sailing"? Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare mom says Posted September 21, 2023 #29 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Because saying 'that ship has cruised' just sounds wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted September 22, 2023 #30 Share Posted September 22, 2023 11 hours ago, jasbo49 said: Obviously, ship is the correct term. But how can people so bent on correctness refer to cruising the Caribbean on a 3,000-passenger vessel as "sailing"? Jim If you look up the definition of "sailing" in any number of dictionaries, one definition is "the departure of a ship from port" (no mention of sails). A "sailing" is also defined as being a "voyage by a ferry or cruise ship, especially on a fixed schedule" (Oxford dictionary). I sailed the oceans for 46 years on ships, none of which had sails. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbwex Posted September 23, 2023 #31 Share Posted September 23, 2023 And like chenkp75, I too have sailed from many ports, and I have been on two "cruises" to WestPac (Western Pacific), though I would not call those cruises anything like "cruises" on a cruise ship. Lots of terms get thrown around, many have multiple meanings, etc. Sometimes the ships are big, colorful and have things like water slides. Sometimes they are big, gray and on more serious business. Sometimes they are rusty and look like they could sink any minute, and sometimes they carry what seems like a zillion containers. Some boats are small and go out for a day's fishing, some boats are big and gray, go underwater, and have ICBMs on them. They all go for a cruise or go sailing. Even sailboats do that!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquahound Posted September 23, 2023 #32 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I've sailed a couple cruise ships that I referred to as tubs or barges. I can only imagine how triggered some people got over that. 🙄 I wonder if folks sailing the QM2 get bent out of shape when people call her a ship and not a liner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted September 23, 2023 #33 Share Posted September 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, Aquahound said: I've sailed a couple cruise ships that I referred to as tubs or barges. I can only imagine how triggered some people got over that. 🙄 I wonder if folks sailing the QM2 get bent out of shape when people call her a ship and not a liner. About as bent out of shape as when you say that AP Moller, Evergreen, CMA CGM, OOCL, and COSCO operate "ocean liners". Container ships are referred to as "liners" since they operate on regular schedules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare aborgman Posted October 4, 2023 #34 Share Posted October 4, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 11:33 AM, BklynBoy8 said: But a large vessel is a ship... Not if it's a submarine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBoozeCruise Posted October 4, 2023 #35 Share Posted October 4, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 11:35 PM, jasbo49 said: Obviously, ship is the correct term. But how can people so bent on correctness refer to cruising the Caribbean on a 3,000-passenger vessel as "sailing"? Jim 3000 deck hands and not one sail in sight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted October 5, 2023 #36 Share Posted October 5, 2023 On 9/22/2023 at 6:05 AM, chengkp75 said: If you look up the definition of "sailing" in any number of dictionaries, one definition is "the departure of a ship from port" (no mention of sails). A "sailing" is also defined as being a "voyage by a ferry or cruise ship, especially on a fixed schedule" (Oxford dictionary). I sailed the oceans for 46 years on ships, none of which had sails. And there are many who serve on ships (and boats) which are not wind-driven - who are still referred to as sailors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted October 5, 2023 #37 Share Posted October 5, 2023 20 hours ago, aborgman said: Not if it's a submarine. Nor if it a ferry boat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoW mAn Posted October 22, 2023 #38 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Inaccurate? Yes Inexact? Yes Offensive? Please 🙄 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bg2310 Posted December 1, 2023 #39 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Personally, I wouldn't call it that but couldn't imagine getting all upset if someone did lol It's getting the same message across even if it isn't exactly accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john watson Posted December 22, 2023 #40 Share Posted December 22, 2023 On 9/6/2023 at 3:23 PM, NewCruiser256 said: I referred to the ship I’m sailing on as a “boat” and someone went ballistic on me. Is it really that big of a deal? I want thoughts from people who cruise often. One could have just replied "Sorry old love, I am new to this. Do you know if their is a specialist term for the pointy part" Regards John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted December 23, 2023 #41 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I would never intentionally want to ruffle feathers, but I'm kinda thinking of calling them cruise boats from now on. Well, except for river cruises. Those will be river ships. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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