San Pedro from a San Pedran

[Thrak]

Soooooooooooo......... Leaving for San Pedro and the Crown Plaza tomorrow. Wondering about where to eat - breakfast and dinner. The hotel web site jus lists a lounge.

 

We will want dinner Saturday and Sunday. We will probably want breakfast on Sunday and Monday (we embark on Monday).

 

Any advice? We will have a car but anything within walking distance would be ideal.

[Cruisin' Chick]

Here are my recs for dining in San Pedro:

 

 

Beach City Grill (eclectic)

http://www.yelp.com/biz/beach-city-grill-san-pedro

 

 

Raffaello's (Italian)

http://www.yelp.com/biz/raffaello-ristorante-san-pedro

 

 

San Pedro Brewing Company (eclectic)

http://sanpedrobrewing.com/

 

 

Philie B's (Pizza, Sandwiches)

http://www.yelp.com/biz/philie-bs-san-pedro

 

 

Puesta Del Sol (Mexican)

http://www.yelp.com/biz/puesta-del-sol-san-pedro

 

 

Whale and Ale (English Pub)

http://www.whaleandale.com/

 

 

Nazalie's (Lebanese)

http://www.yelp.com/biz/nazelies-lebanese-cafe-san-pedro#query:nazalie

 

 

Off The Vine (Wine Shop, Lounge, Cafe)

http://www.yelp.com/biz/off-the-vine-san-pedro

 

 

Catalina Bistro (California Cuisine)

http://catalinabistro.com/

 

 

Think Cafe (eclectic)

http://www.yelp.com/biz/think-cafe-san-pedro

 

 

Baramee (Thai)

http://www.barameethairestaurant.com/online/

 

 

Mishi's Strudel

http://www.mishisstrudel.com/

 

 

Happy Diner - Small Diner

http://happydinersp.com/

 

Soooooooooooo......... Leaving for San Pedro and the Crown Plaza tomorrow. Wondering about where to eat - breakfast and dinner. The hotel web site jus lists a lounge.

 

We will want dinner Saturday and Sunday. We will probably want breakfast on Sunday and Monday (we embark on Monday).

 

Any advice? We will have a car but anything within walking distance would be ideal.

 

This may help you. You can check out the distance from your hotel via Google maps or ask at the front desk which ones are walkable.

[rianvi]

We are booked at the Double Tree pre cruise. Booking a car service to get us from the Lax to the hotel in San Pedro. Have read and received a lot of info from this thread. For those of you who stayed at the DT, where did you eat or shop around the hotel or did you have to take a cab or the shuttle?

Thank you,

Anna:)

[Thrak]

Ate at San Pedro Brewing Company last night. Food was good. Imperial Stout was excellent. Turns out Crowne Plaza Hotel will let us valet the car here for $15 a night and we can take the shuttle to Berth 46. We got the killer rate from Price Line and can still leave the car here. Best of both worlds. As we are booked here for next Friday and Saturday thus works out really well.

Edited February 1, 2015 by Thrak

[DMRick]

Ate at Acapupco's Mexican last night. What a nice place. Very reasonable and great service. Much prefer it over the Green Onion. Thanks to whoever suggested it.

 

 

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[DMRick]

Thrall, are you on the Grand tomorrow?

 

Anyone know how much a cab is from the Crowne? Unless you have certain packages, the shuttle is now $5 each, and of course plus tip, so we're thinking a cab will be just us and our time for about the same.

 

 

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[Bruin Steve]

We are booked at the Double Tree pre cruise. Booking a car service to get us from the Lax to the hotel in San Pedro. Have read and received a lot of info from this thread. For those of you who stayed at the DT, where did you eat or shop around the hotel or did you have to take a cab or the shuttle?

Thank you,

Anna:)

 

The 22nd Street Landing is a pretty good seafood place right around the Marina a little ways from the Doubletree...but most of the other restaurants in San Pedro are a good mile and a half to two miles walk...Walkable for some, a little far for others...The hotel will shuttle you to most of them...Or, if you are going during the hours the trolley is running, you can use that to get from a stop near the 22nd Street Landing northward--but that only runs Saturdays, Sundays and days ships are in port until 6 pm...

[Bruin Steve]

Anyone know how much a cab is from the Crowne? Unless you have certain packages, the shuttle is now $5 each, and of course plus tip, so we're thinking a cab will be just us and our time for about the same.

 

A taxi wouldn't be much...It's only about a half to three-quarters of a mile from the Crowne Plaza to the pier, depending on which berth you're at...We actually walked it last month...it's about a block east and three to six blocks north...

The only problem might be finding a cabbie willing to come get you for that low a fare...

[DMRick]

A taxi wouldn't be much...It's only about a half to three-quarters of a mile from the Crowne Plaza to the pier, depending on which berth you're at...We actually walked it last month...it's about a block east and three to six blocks north...

 

The only problem might be finding a cabbie willing to come get you for that low a fare...

 

 

In ft Lauderdale they charged us a minimum of $10.. We would be ok with that. Don't want to drag the luggage so won't walk. I'll check with Bell services. Just wasn't pretty last time we stayed at the Crowne. They paid no attention to the sign up and people just pushed ahead. Maybe it's different now that they charge.

 

Just asked bell services. First come first serve, so not even trying to have a sign up.. Guess they figured it didn't work anyway.

 

 

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Edited February 1, 2015 by DMRick

[rianvi]

The 22nd Street Landing is a pretty good seafood place right around the Marina a little ways from the Doubletree...but most of the other restaurants in San Pedro are a good mile and a half to two miles walk...Walkable for some, a little far for others...The hotel will shuttle you to most of them...Or, if you are going during the hours the trolley is running, you can use that to get from a stop near the 22nd Street Landing northward--but that only runs Saturdays, Sundays and days ships are in port until 6 pm...

 

Thank you for the quick reply. So basically there isn't anything around the hotel. We enjoy seafood so shouldn't be a problem. It is only for one night.

 

Thanks:)

[24639]

Here is a link to a nice article about places to eat in "Pedro", as we call it. (Prounounced PEEdro)

http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-7-great-places-for-food-lovers-in-san-pedro-20150204-story.html#page=1

 

Breakfast at the Pacific Diner is fabulous, as is The Omelette and Waffle Shop.

If you want to grab a couple of sandwiches for the road or a picnic try the Busy Bee on 24th and Walker.

[Husky61]

Here is a link to a nice article about places to eat in "Pedro", as we call it. (Prounounced PEEdro)

http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-7-great-places-for-food-lovers-in-san-pedro-20150204-story.html#page=1

 

Breakfast at the Pacific Diner is fabulous, as is The Omelette and Waffle Shop.

If you want to grab a couple of sandwiches for the road or a picnic try the Busy Bee on 24th and Walker.

 

Interesting, all the years I lived in the area we pronounced it "Paydro".:)

[Cruisin' Chick]

Interesting, all the years I lived in the area we pronounced it "Paydro".:)

 

Imagine out of town visitors trying to pronounce "Sepulveda," "Cahuenga," or "Tujunga."

[Husky61]

Imagine out of town visitors trying to pronounce "Sepulveda' date='" "Cahuenga," or "Tujunga."[/quote']

 

Yep, I have heard those mispronounced many times. Another good one is San Jacinto.:)

[Motorman23]

I am sorry if this was previously asked but what are my chances of making a 11:30pm or 12:30 flight out of LAX on a Saturday? I have never been to the port of Los Angeles (San Pedro) or LA before so not aware of time it takes to get off the ship and into the LAX terminal.

 

Thanks in advance, Mike

 

 

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[Bruin Steve]

I am sorry if this was previously asked but what are my chances of making a 11:30pm or 12:30 flight out of LAX on a Saturday? I have never been to the port of Los Angeles (San Pedro) or LA before so not aware of time it takes to get off the ship and into the LAX terminal.

 

Thanks in advance, Mike

 

It's actually pretty good...12:30 a lot better than 11:30, of course...

LAX is only 20 miles from the Cruise terminal...Even though there's always a threat off some traffic in LA, Saturday mornings are, obviously, far better than work day mornings...The drive should really only take about 30 minutes or less...it's virtually all freeway...

 

They recommend you get to LAX two hours before flight time...but, that's not always necessary...helps to check in via the internet...

 

The problem isn't the drive...

Say you have an 11:30 am flight, you'd want to get to LAX around 9:30 (though you'd probably be okay getting there by 10:00...)

 

So, figure you'd have to be off the ship and IN a taxi, shuttle or car by 9:00-9:30 at the latest...

The biggest problem is in getting off the ship...

It helps to be able to roll your own luggage off...saves time looking for your bags and you're not depending on the ship to put them out early...

 

And make sure to leave WAY ahead of time...The big issue is just getting through the line to clear customs and leave the ship...Sometimes...and some ships...it's relatively quick...other times it drags...

 

I usually say to book flights after noon...but 11:30, IMHO, is still workable if that's the only time you can fly that makes sense...

[Motorman23]

It's actually pretty good...12:30 a lot better than 11:30, of course...

LAX is only 20 miles from the Cruise terminal...Even though there's always a threat off some traffic in LA, Saturday mornings are, obviously, far better than work day mornings...The drive should really only take about 30 minutes or less...it's virtually all freeway...

 

They recommend you get to LAX two hours before flight time...but, that's not always necessary...helps to check in via the internet...

 

The problem isn't the drive...

Say you have an 11:30 am flight, you'd want to get to LAX around 9:30 (though you'd probably be okay getting there by 10:00...)

 

So, figure you'd have to be off the ship and IN a taxi, shuttle or car by 9:00-9:30 at the latest...

The biggest problem is in getting off the ship...

It helps to be able to roll your own luggage off...saves time looking for your bags and you're not depending on the ship to put them out early...

 

And make sure to leave WAY ahead of time...The big issue is just getting through the line to clear customs and leave the ship...Sometimes...and some ships...it's relatively quick...other times it drags...

 

I usually say to book flights after noon...but 11:30, IMHO, is still workable if that's the only time you can fly that makes sense...

 

Thank you, I will go with the 12:30 flight.

 

Mike

Edited February 10, 2015 by Motorman23

[Bruin Steve]

Imagine out of town visitors trying to pronounce "Sepulveda' date='" "Cahuenga," or "Tujunga."[/quote']

 

Ahhhhh...

California place names...

You just woke up this old UCLA Geography major...

Most of our unusual place names are either Spanish or Indian in derivation...and have been mangled over the years by us Californians of European/American origin...especially the Spanish names...

"Los Angeles" itself should be pronounced with a "long" O in Los...and the hard, gutteral "H" sound for the G (like the Hebrew or German "CH" sound) and the Es pronounced as "long" As...No way!

Problem is that the Spanish got here first, named nearly everything, but didn't settle the area in any great numbers--not back in the 1800s...Most of the folks who came here came from the US, spoke English...and read the signs the way any American would...Hence, Sepulveda, San PEE-dro and others...

Yet, some places ARE pronounced as in the Spanish--ie "La Jolla" (pronounced La Hoy-ah). Problem is that La Jolla is MISSPELLED in Spanish...The name SHOULD have been "La Holla"--the hollow...named after the cove...even though some people mistakenly believe it to be La Joya--the "jewel"...it's just that sounds more enchanting...

Like "Azusa"--which the local Chamber of Commerce wants to have you think means "Everything from A to Z in the USA"...It doesn't--it's a Native American word from the Shoshonean meaning "Skunk Hill"...not very pretty, huh?

 

Cahuenga, Tujunga, Topanga, Aguanga, Cucamonga...These names are also from the Shoshonean...The suffix "-nga" actually means "Place"...

 

Canoga is NOT Shoshonean...It's not even Native American...The original name of the town was "Owensmouth"--a tongue-in-cheek inside joke--because it was where the Water District dumped the water brought down by aqueduct from the Owens River...The early real estate developers wanted a more exotic sounding name...so they completely fabricated "Canoga" thinking it sounded "Indian"...

 

Coalinga is even a better story...Yes, it has an "-nga" suffix, but it is NOT Shoshonean...It's not Spanish either...

It's...................English!

When they built the first railroad line between LA and San Francisco, the trains ran on steam, powered by burning coal...A train couldn't carry enough coal to get all the way from San Francisco to Los Angeles, so they needed places along the way to replenish the supply of coal...So, they built "Coaling Stations"...And, in naming these stations, they showed real originality--named them "Coaling Station A" and "Coaling Station B" or "Coaling A" and "Coaling B"...No one remembers what happened to B...but "COALING A" sort of got pushed together into "COALINGA"...

 

Burbank, BTW is NOT named for Luther Burbank...It's named for David Burbank--a Dentist and Real Estate Developer who subdivided the town.

 

Tarzana IS named for Tarzan...it was originally the estate of Edgar Rice Burroughs--who wrote "Tarzan of the Apes"...

 

El Segundo is Spanish for "The Second"...because it was the second oil refinery for Standard Oil of California...

 

Anaheim is sort of a combo Spanish-German...settled by Germans who started a settlement on the Santa Ana River--hence "Ana-Heim", Home on the Ana...

 

Oh...one more favorite--"Point Dume"...Sounds ominous, huh? But it's not "Doom", it's Dume...Most people pronounce it Doom--though SOME try to go with "Doo-may"--TRYING to make it into a Spanish pronunciation--as if it might be fancier (sort of like how some Simi Valley residence try NOT to pronounce their town "Seamy")...

However, the name is NOT Spanish...

Point Dume was originally "Point Dumetz"...named after Francisco Dumetz-- A Franciscan Missionary, born in Spain but from a French background--with a French last name...

Originally, there was a sign saying "POINT DUMETZ"...but, the sign fell into disrepair...the "TZ" part fell off...and no one ever repaired the sign...so, it forever went into the books and maps as "Point Dume"...

Edited February 10, 2015 by Bruin Steve

[dickinson]

Can you walk to the port? are there sidewalks after you turn into the port area from Harbor Blvd?

 

 

 

 

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[Thrak]

Many thanks to those who recommended places to eat in San Pedro. We ate twice and San Pedro Brewing Company and both times it was very good. We had so very good beer there as well.

[Thrak]

Can you walk to the port? are there sidewalks after you turn into the port area from Harbor Blvd?

 

 

 

 

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You could probably walk if you like but we just took the free shuttle from the hotel. Much easier and we didn't have to drag our luggage along with us.

[Bruin Steve]

Can you walk to the port? are there sidewalks after you turn into the port area from Harbor Blvd?

 

Walk to the port from where?

 

Assuming you are staying at the Crowne Plaza, for example, it is very easy to walk to the port...about a half a mile to three-quarters of a mile, depending on which berth...

 

We just walked this on January 3 (actually walked from the San Pedro Brewing Company and Off the Vine)...Yoiu walk a couple of blocks down 6th Street to Harbor Blvd., then cross Harbor and enter the port area near the USS Iowa...and follow the sidewalk around...

[dickinson]

Ok,we are here. we walked from the Crowne Plaza with a rolling carry on and a tote bag. easy walk with that on a beautiful day. probably a half mile. saved the $10 for two people by not taking their shuttle. I wouldn't,t do it with real large suitcases if I also had other items too. hope this helps others.

 

 

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[sjn911]

Ahhhhh...

California place names...

You just woke up this old UCLA Geography major...

Most of our unusual place names are either Spanish or Indian in derivation...and have been mangled over the years by us Californians of European/American origin...especially the Spanish names...

"Los Angeles" itself should be pronounced with a "long" O in Los...and the hard, gutteral "H" sound for the G (like the Hebrew or German "CH" sound) and the Es pronounced as "long" As...No way!

Problem is that the Spanish got here first, named nearly everything, but didn't settle the area in any great numbers--not back in the 1800s...Most of the folks who came here came from the US, spoke English...and read the signs the way any American would...Hence, Sepulveda, San PEE-dro and others...

Yet, some places ARE pronounced as in the Spanish--ie "La Jolla" (pronounced La Hoy-ah). Problem is that La Jolla is MISSPELLED in Spanish...The name SHOULD have been "La Holla"--the hollow...named after the cove...even though some people mistakenly believe it to be La Joya--the "jewel"...it's just that sounds more enchanting...

Like "Azusa"--which the local Chamber of Commerce wants to have you think means "Everything from A to Z in the USA"...It doesn't--it's a Native American word from the Shoshonean meaning "Skunk Hill"...not very pretty, huh?

 

Cahuenga, Tujunga, Topanga, Aguanga, Cucamonga...These names are also from the Shoshonean...The suffix "-nga" actually means "Place"...

 

Canoga is NOT Shoshonean...It's not even Native American...The original name of the town was "Owensmouth"--a tongue-in-cheek inside joke--because it was where the Water District dumped the water brought down by aqueduct from the Owens River...The early real estate developers wanted a more exotic sounding name...so they completely fabricated "Canoga" thinking it sounded "Indian"...

 

Coalinga is even a better story...Yes, it has an "-nga" suffix, but it is NOT Shoshonean...It's not Spanish either...

It's...................English!

When they built the first railroad line between LA and San Francisco, the trains ran on steam, powered by burning coal...A train couldn't carry enough coal to get all the way from San Francisco to Los Angeles, so they needed places along the way to replenish the supply of coal...So, they built "Coaling Stations"...And, in naming these stations, they showed real originality--named them "Coaling Station A" and "Coaling Station B" or "Coaling A" and "Coaling B"...No one remembers what happened to B...but "COALING A" sort of got pushed together into "COALINGA"...

 

Burbank, BTW is NOT named for Luther Burbank...It's named for David Burbank--a Dentist and Real Estate Developer who subdivided the town.

 

Tarzana IS named for Tarzan...it was originally the estate of Edgar Rice Burroughs--who wrote "Tarzan of the Apes"...

 

El Segundo is Spanish for "The Second"...because it was the second oil refinery for Standard Oil of California...

 

Anaheim is sort of a combo Spanish-German...settled by Germans who started a settlement on the Santa Ana River--hence "Ana-Heim", Home on the Ana...

 

Oh...one more favorite--"Point Dume"...Sounds ominous, huh? But it's not "Doom", it's Dume...Most people pronounce it Doom--though SOME try to go with "Doo-may"--TRYING to make it into a Spanish pronunciation--as if it might be fancier (sort of like how some Simi Valley residence try NOT to pronounce their town "Seamy")...

However, the name is NOT Spanish...

Point Dume was originally "Point Dumetz"...named after Francisco Dumetz-- A Franciscan Missionary, born in Spain but from a French background--with a French last name...

Originally, there was a sign saying "POINT DUMETZ"...but, the sign fell into disrepair...the "TZ" part fell off...and no one ever repaired the sign...so, it forever went into the books and maps as "Point Dume"...

 

Thanks..I love these interesting things about places and names and history and sure have enjoyed my few visits to SoCal (both LA and San Diego areas and San Francisco areas.

[Cruisin' Chick]

There was a piece on one of the national newscasts last night about how citizens of Bangor, Maine, are doing this PR campaign to get people to pronounce the name of their city correctly. In the lead, La Jolla was mentioned as one city whose name is mispronounced quite a bit.