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who wants to listen to amateurs sober, and who doesn't need the alcohol to think they are frank sinatra?

 

I'll consider the first question rhetorical. For the other one, those of us who are professionals. But then with that we're normally not too keen on karaoke to begin with.

 

Now on to my "lol, wut" issue with the smoking policy; I don't smoke cigarettes but do have a cigar every now and then (especially while cruising and indulging my other passion, single malt scotch), I book balconies so that's not an issue however it is puzzling that there will be no cigar smoking in the cigar bars. Oh well, right?

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I have always LOVED the piano bar but have never been able to stand it for mor than a half hour due to the smoke. I am very happy to see that it is now non-smoking and HOPE that on my upcoming cruise, there are lots of others enjoying the music as well. The Paradise didn't fair well with its no smoking policy so we can only hope this policy is accepted fleet wide.

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Amazing how the non-smokers managed to whine and have cigar smoking banned in the cigar rooms. :confused:

 

For the record, I am a non-smoker, but I would enjoy a nice cigar, beverage, and conversation in the cigar bars. Oh well, looks like I will have to take it out to my balcony and listen as people complain about the smoke and how I just ruined their cruise with my smoke.

 

Just proves that if you complain enough, you will get the change you wanted, but in some situations, it not better, it is worse then before. Before, I never thought about smoking my cigar on my balcony. Now, it is really my only option.

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Amazing how the non-smokers managed to whine and have cigar smoking banned in the cigar rooms. :confused:

 

For the record, I am a non-smoker, but I would enjoy a nice cigar, beverage, and conversation in the cigar bars. Oh well, looks like I will have to take it out to my balcony and listen as people complain about the smoke and how I just ruined their cruise with my smoke.

 

Just proves that if you complain enough, you will get the change you wanted, but in some situations, it not better, it is worse then before. Before, I never thought about smoking my cigar on my balcony. Now, it is really my only option.

 

i remember how shocked i was smelling a cigar that someone was smoking on the fantail.

 

other than that, i never smelled cigar smoke until i went through the cigar bar.

 

now i expect to smell it any time i go out to my balcony.

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It doesn't take affect until December 1, 2011.

 

Already set straight above.

 

in a nutshell, pretty much everything on the ship became non smoking

 

Well that is one persons opinon.....

Dont count on it!

 

 

We are just back from the Triumph yesterday.

Lido, no real changes noted. Both sides of ship busy every time we were out there. (lots)

 

Piano bar, Spent more time in there this trip than in many. I did not go in the "Jazz" clulb (Venezia), but others in our group did and stated it to be more smokey than ever. This may be due to loss of the sports bar as smoking area???

 

Casino and Casino bar, Casino I could not tell any real difference. Back side of Casino bar however seemed more smokey than ever due to concentration of smokers.

 

We had a group of 12, about half were smokers and half were not. One of the smokers was one that stated the Venezia was too smoky for them. Some of us were talking that certain areas did seem worse possibly due to the "concentration" issue. Outside on lido we only heard one complaint from a pax on embarkation day about the smoke (on the starboard side). They were politely advised that this IS the smoking side and the other side is NON smoking. They said OK, and went to the other side.

 

Just my observations..... YMMV.

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Just returned from the Glory. Sports Bar, Piano Bar....EMPTY! Piano Bar had at best 6 - 10 people every night when we were in there or passed by it at various times. The piano player was actually good on this Ship so it wasn't due to anything on his part. We saw him on another Ship this past year and the Piano Bar was packed (but that was when there was smoking).

 

The Jazz Club which is smoking had people every night and was definitely busier than when it was a smoke-free lounge. The smoking side of Lido was busier than the non-smoking side and quite a few of the tables on the Smoking side had non-smokers sitting at them. The lounge chairs were full on the Smoking side and the Non-smoking side had plenty available. Saw no difference in Casino....Smoking tables and machines were busy and Non-Smoking machines had a few people playing and the tables were empty. The Casino Bar which is 1/2 Smoking and 1/2 Non-Smoking was always busy on the Smoking side and the Non-Smoking side was empty except on occasion with one couple now and then.

 

As a former smoker I find it amazing that smokers can get through a dinner seating or one of the production shows but are unwilling to spend 30 to 45 minutes enjoying the piano bar and a drink.

 

Seems like they are pouting like little children.......I didn't mind the smoke in the piano bar, but could rarely go in there because most smokers litterally camped out in there during the evenings and left no room for anyone else.

 

I will definately be frequenting these bars more now.

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Sorry...I am not current on the new policy either. I did read somewhere that after December 1st folks can still smoke on their balcony...is that correct? If that is the case, I am going to book an Oceanview on early saver for our January cruise. :D Might be less expensive.

I said okay, if that's what you want. I assume you were not going to O.V. from an inside, but going from balcony to O.V. If you were balcony with smoking allowed before, why change? Why did you not have an O.V. before?

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That just made me LOL!:D

 

Laugh away, however, the people here on CC are only a tiny percentage that really can't even represent the amount of cruisers on Carnival lines. That being said, I believe there are far more smokers on Carnival than non-smokers. Smokers will adjust, go to the venues where allowed and spend. The non-smokers will need to do the same, spend their dollars in the venues that don't allow smoking. As read in the threads, it seemed that quite a few bars were dead while the smoking bars were hopping and areas that allowed smoking were hopping. I'm just saying... And it looks like I'm going to be getting flamed for this, so my flame suit is on LOL! I know this is a sore subject for non-smokers.

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Laugh away, however, the people here on CC are only a tiny percentage that really can't even represent the amount of cruisers on Carnival lines. That being said, I believe there are far more smokers on Carnival than non-smokers. Smokers will adjust, go to the venues where allowed and spend. The non-smokers will need to do the same, spend their dollars in the venues that don't allow smoking. As read in the threads, it seemed that quite a few bars were dead while the smoking bars were hopping and areas that allowed smoking were hopping. I'm just saying... And it looks like I'm going to be getting flamed for this, so my flame suit is on LOL! I know this is a sore subject for non-smokers.

 

the same amount of smoke will occur on every cruise. it is just redistributed, but still on the ship.

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That being said, I believe there are far more smokers on Carnival than non-smokers.

 

Do you really believe this? I did some searching (albeit not very long), and the highest number I could find was that about 25% of the US population smokes tobacco. By my crude calculations to even have half of a ship be smokers they would have to book cruises at 3 times the rate of non-smokers. I seriously doubt that is the case.

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Do you really believe this? I did some searching (albeit not very long), and the highest number I could find was that about 25% of the US population smokes tobacco. By my crude calculations to even have half of a ship be smokers they would have to book cruises at 3 times the rate of non-smokers. I seriously doubt that is the case.

 

your thinking the avg person.

 

cruises and casino towns have the higher drinkers and smoker population.

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Laugh away, however, the people here on CC are only a tiny percentage that really can't even represent the amount of cruisers on Carnival lines. That being said, I believe there are far more smokers on Carnival than non-smokers. Smokers will adjust, go to the venues where allowed and spend. The non-smokers will need to do the same, spend their dollars in the venues that don't allow smoking. As read in the threads, it seemed that quite a few bars were dead while the smoking bars were hopping and areas that allowed smoking were hopping. I'm just saying... And it looks like I'm going to be getting flamed for this, so my flame suit is on LOL! I know this is a sore subject for non-smokers.

 

the same amount of smoke will occur on every cruise. it is just redistributed, but still on the ship.

 

And the money being spent will just be redistributed to different smoker friendly locations as well. Unless..........Maybe the smokers are so mad that even more of them will start smuggling!!:eek: Lol It's just not very logical to think that the smokers have stopped spending on booze because there are a few new places they cant smoke, so why would a non smoker suddenly have to start spending MORE?. Just silliness:D

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As a former smoker

 

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I will definately be frequenting these bars more now.

 

 

I haven't been to a piano bar since I quit smoking 4 years ago. I will definitely be checking it out ... if our cruise would hurry up and get here already. :)

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your thinking the avg person.

 

cruises and casino towns have the higher drinkers and smoker population.

 

Maybe true, but I still seriously doubt that the smoker to non-smoker ratio is even 1 to 1.

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Do you really believe this? I did some searching (albeit not very long), and the highest number I could find was that about 25% of the US population smokes tobacco. By my crude calculations to even have half of a ship be smokers they would have to book cruises at 3 times the rate of non-smokers. I seriously doubt that is the case.

 

I believe it, on the few cruises we have been on seemed the majority of them were smokers. Very few people in the "non smoking" venues and the areas that allowed smoking seemed to have the biggest crowds. But I think whatever they (carnival) do as far as smoking vs. non smoking areas there is always going to be peole that are going to complain because they want it all "their way" smoke where you want OR a totally non-smoking ship.

 

We smoke, so when we are smoking in our "smoking section", which we will abide by, I sure don't want to see a bunch of dirty looks and hear snarky comments about the "smoke".

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Amazing how the non-smokers managed to whine and have cigar smoking banned in the cigar rooms. :confused:

 

For the record, I am a non-smoker, but I would enjoy a nice cigar, beverage, and conversation in the cigar bars. Oh well, looks like I will have to take it out to my balcony and listen as people complain about the smoke and how I just ruined their cruise with my smoke.

 

Just proves that if you complain enough, you will get the change you wanted, but in some situations, it not better, it is worse then before. Before, I never thought about smoking my cigar on my balcony. Now, it is really my only option.

 

I'm a non smoker, and I've never whined about it, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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For all who shared their experiences, thanks a million.

 

I love hearing that many are enjoying the piano bar.

 

Would love to hear more reports and experiences.

 

And as an aside the profit discussion about the non smoking venues seems to have occured everywhere the smoking ban started, restaurants, bars, hotels, other cruise lines like Celebrity... etc. and all the businesses survived once everyone got used to things.

 

But as the OP, I was just really trying to see how it was working out on the ships and hoping that non smokers and smokers were finding happy cruising.

 

Thanks again for the reports.

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I only smoked on my balcony, but on our last trip on Azamara, there was a non smoking policy on balconies. So i smoked in the one place on ship that was allowed. Met a bunch of nice people there, smokers and non smokers. :p

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The one thing we did notice on our last trip on the Glory was that the "new" designated Cigar smoking bar (old Jazz club) was shut down for Private Parties a significant amount of time on the trip. Since it was raining and foggy out, this wasn't exactly the best facility for them to shut down when there were other empty venues the parties could have been held in.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure smoking vs. non-smoking isn't a viable reason that a certain lounge, club, or facility is or isn't well attended. That just seems a little too far fetched to even consider.

 

If we were to use that logic then I guess out in California all the dining establishments should have closed their doors and gone out of business when the non smoking laws went into effect....

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The best cruise I was on was the Carnival Paradise ( I think that was the ship) when it was a NON SMOKING ship. I have COPD, use oxygen and it was awesome going into the casino and not having the smoke chase me out. It's horrible when I have to put a cloth to my mouth so I can get through the casino on those ships that allow cigs and cigars.

 

I've been on quit a few cruises and it looks to me like more people are NOT smoking compared to years ago. Looks like the tide has changed..lol..ok, that was bad...lol..

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