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Lilyrosemum

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Technically yes but as you know there's no smell at all, so really you could smoke in your cabin or even on your balcony and no one would know.

 

I can kind of understand why e-cigs would be banned in public, but not sure why they are banned in private, as there's no residual odor of any kind.

 

There may not be a "smell", but no one really knows what is in that vapor. It could be some sort of cancer causing agent or it could be harmless. Until we know, why would a corporation take the risk and allow it?

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Lilyrosemum

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Sure it does. If I were a smoker and allowed to smoke on my balcony, I would spend the extra fare so I wouldn't have to go to a public deck to do it. But if I'm not allowed to smoke on my balcony, I might decide that the extra fare isn't worth it because I'd have to go to a public deck to smoke and wouldn't spend the time on my own balcony.

 

Again, frees up more balconies. Great for those that want a balcony!!!

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Lilyrosemum

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I am sure the no-smoking policy is being strictly enforced. When I booked my next cruise last week, the RCCL rep told me that most smokers are not booking balconies now.

 

Oh yes and we all know how much information a Royal Caribbean phone rep gives out is accurate. Call another time and they will tell you how many more people are wanting balconies now because of the new nonsmoking rule.

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rummenroman

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It doesn't seem logical that smokers got a balcony room just so they can smoke.

 

It does. I booked balconies on my last few cruises because I was allowed to smoke out there. I can't say for certain that I will never book another balcony cabin, but it would have to be from an upgrade. For me the added expense of a balcony was worth not having to put clothes on to find my way to a public deck to smoke at night or first thing in the mornings.

 

It is what it is....smoking is a dying habit. Smokers continue to find themselves looking for a place to have their smoke legally. I have no problems with that, I choose to smoke. My one complaint about the no-smoking here world is in an airport. I hate having to go outside of security to have a smoke, but again it is what it is.

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sleepless

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how many times do you think RCI will need to hear that before a light goes on?

 

 

As long as the balcony cabins are being booked (by non smokers), and the inside cabins are being booked, I doubt if Royal Caribbean will be unhappy.

 

I also expect, that in the not so distant future, the Casino will also be off limits to smokers.

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sleepless

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Sure it does. If I were a smoker and allowed to smoke on my balcony, I would spend the extra fare so I wouldn't have to go to a public deck to do it. But if I'm not allowed to smoke on my balcony, I might decide that the extra fare isn't worth it because I'd have to go to a public deck to smoke and wouldn't spend the time on my own balcony.

 

 

Smoking is not the only reason for a person to book a balcony cabin. I am a non smoker, and I always book a balcony cabin.

 

To be fair to the smokers, I was never bothered by anyone smoking on their balcony.

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cello56

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Surely there are smokers who will still book balcony cabins simply to enjoy the beauty and relaxation of watching the ocean, and the sunrise and the sunset. I doubt that they are incapable of enjoying these things without a cigarette in their hands?

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niksmom630 "Live from...." Rare

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Surely there are smokers who will still book balcony cabins simply to enjoy the beauty and relaxation of watching the ocean, and the sunrise and the sunset. I doubt that they are incapable of enjoying these things without a cigarette in their hands?

 

Yes, I will be one of them. There is much to enjoy with a balcony cabin! Smoking on the balcony was simply a convenience, and not my sole motivation for booking one

 

 

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mjldvlks

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how many times do you think RCI will need to hear that before a light goes on?

Perhaps the light went on when the policy was changed. I would be willing to bet, given the history of this topic, that RCI did some pretty thorough due dilligence before changing the policy. I imagine they looked at their own response cards, social media discussions [i.e. us], perhaps focus groups and customer surveys, and I would be willing to bet they looked long and hard at the impact last year's policy change had on Princess.

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poncho1973

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how many times do you think RCI will need to hear that before a light goes on?

 

Considering that smokers in the US that have incomes above the poverty line (the target advertising audience of cruise lines is not people below the povery line, but that's not saying people with less income don't occasionally cruise) are generally in the realm of 13-15%* of the population and going down every single year, I don't think this is a big threat.

 

The outdated statement that "smokers spend more" can't be proven, just stated over and over and over by smokers who have a vested interest in not losing their voice in decisions. I can't say whether smokers spend more or less, but I know when your overall footprint on a ship is reduced to about 1 in 7 people... the odds are no longer in your favor.

 

Nonsmokers that walk into smoking areas and whine are jerks.

Smokers that smoke where they're not supposed to are jerks.

 

When smokers were allowed to smoke on balconies, complainers had no leg to stand on. Now that they aren't allowed, nonsmokers have the right to expect a smoke-free experience. The scales have tipped.

 

If you tell any business owner that for every 7 customers who walk in the door... that 6 of them will like Option A and 1 of them will like Option B... only an idiot is picking to stock Option B at the direct expense of Option A, when they sell for the same price. They've got a much bigger shot at making a sale.

 

Especially in view of the fact that you don't have smokers complaining that their neighbors AREN'T smoking on their balconies, but nonsmokers do complain that their neighbors ARE. It's a lopsided deal.

 

As someone that has lost multiple relatives to cancer (a few of them directly traced to smoking for decades), I say that making it a bit tougher to smoke might encourage a few smokers to smoke a few less cigs on their vacation. Even a few less is better than nothing. That is just personal opinion and has nothing to do with the ship policies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*According to the CDC around 18% smoke, with studies that indicate that above the poverty line this is about 3-5% lower than below it. That's where my estimated number of 13-15% comes from.

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Tulsa Tom

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come on.. you are going to hurt my feelings.

 

frankly I could give a crap if RCI sells balconies or not but RCI does. I never hang around the casino so not sure why you bring this up. if you want to see central ohio stories google is your friend. the next thing you banning people will want is to get rid of the hookers onboard.

 

There are hookers on board ?

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erfarb

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Smoking is not the only reason for a person to book a balcony cabin. I am a non smoker, and I always book a balcony cabin.

 

To be fair to the smokers, I was never bothered by anyone smoking on their balcony.

 

That is a first. I am so happy to hear that.

 

I am not a smoker, but husband is. It is so very nice to hear someone say they were not affected by their neighbor smoking on a balcony. It is a shame that some smokers were inconsiderate of their neighbors and ruined it for all smokers.

It is a very simple concept, if you smoke and you bought a balcony, pay attention to your neighbors, be considerate and thoughtful. If your neighbors are out on the balcony, or you know they are present in their room, wait till later to have that cigarette, or go to a designated area on the ship.

 

I understand that RC made their decision based on cruisers feedback, and there is no doubt that they made the right decision. There are far more people complaining about smoking on the balconies, than there are smokers complaining about the new rule.

 

Shame on you... for all the smokers that never gave a thought to those around them.

 

Now, the entire ship has to deal with select areas inundated with smoke 24 hours a day. This new smoking rule affects far more people than the original rule, allowing smoking on your balcony.

 

RC had no choice, they made the right decision. The rest of us will run quickly through these smoking areas to get to our destination. Sad !

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The Sunset Glow

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RCCL has had smoke free balconies and casinos on Celebrity for a couple of years - I think they already have the stats and, aparently, they are not worried. I bet you'll see smoke free casinos on RCI in the future as well.

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Host Star

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just returned from Allure sharing a balcony cabin with a friend who smokes and has smoked on the balcony of previous cruises.. she had no problem adhering to the new rules and I never heard a grumble.. when she wanted a smoke she went to one of the designated smoking areas.... as adults we are all used to adjustments and compromises in life, especially if you have spouses and children :)......I remember when my husband was a 2 pack a day smoker and they no longer allowed smoking on airplanes.... he traveled a lot on business and he adjusted so well he gave up smoking :)

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Cruisers425Years

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just returned from Allure sharing a balcony cabin with a friend who smokes and has smoked on the balcony of previous cruises.. she had no problem adhering to the new rules and I never heard a grumble.. when she wanted a smoke she went to one of the designated smoking areas.... as adults we are all used to adjustments and compromises in life, especially if you have spouses and children :)

 

I think most smokers will be able to adjust to the new smoking policy just fine, although chain smokers may have a harder time. I am wondering how smokers will do if they're quarantined for 3 or 4 days and can't smoke on their balcony anymore. Even an illness doesn't keep some smokers from smoking.....I can't imagine being sick and going through nicotine withdrawal at the same time.:eek:

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critterchick

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Smoking is not the only reason for a person to book a balcony cabin. I am a non smoker, and I always book a balcony cabin.

 

To be fair to the smokers, I was never bothered by anyone smoking on their balcony.

 

I didn't say that it was. I, too, am a non-smoker who usually books a balcony. I have on occasion been bothered by heavy smoking from an adjacent cabin and hope that it doesn't happen again.

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