Aos doa

[chengkp75]

They have dropped St Martin now. So we will be doing St Lucia, Antigua, and St Croix still. They are still telling us 10am departure. The last bolt on blade 4, which has now been acknowledged, has been removed. Crane has moved into place to bring it out of the water.

 

It's such a small thing, this 4th blade, just hiding down there from the divers. I notice no one asked the Chief Engineer how many blades there were.:p He would have been the angry fellow in the white coveralls pacing back and forth on the dock.

Edited March 26, 2014 by chengkp75

[Topo Gigio]

They have dropped St Martin now. So we will be doing St Lucia, Antigua, and St Croix still. They are still telling us 10am departure. The last bolt on blade 4, which has now been acknowledged, has been removed. Crane has moved into place to bring it out of the water.

 

I doubt that there is time to go to St.Lucia. From San Juan it's a day at sea(or almost) before reaching there...

[PORT ROYAL]

It's such a small thing, this 4th blade, just hiding down there from the divers. I notice no one asked the Chief Engineer how many blades there were.:p He would have been the angry fellow in the white coveralls pacing back and forth on the dock.

 

A man under pressure :D

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[sjpsoccer14]

Have y'all sailed yet?

 

 

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No, not yet.

 

 

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[PattyG12]

not till 10

[sjpsoccer14]

We are scheduled to set sail this morning at 10:00 am.

 

 

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[Folk Singer]

1250EST there are 7 huge bolts on the dock. The flatbed where we are assuming they are putting the blades is still sitting empty as it did all day yesterday. No further updates from Captain and crew regarding our itinerary. Weather is still beautiful and crew still friendly and upbeat.

 

To clarify my post from last night regarding onboard credit for still being in San Juan today, there was a letter this morning. It is another $250 plus $75 each for 3rd and 4th passengers. Suite passengers get $500 and not sure if the 3rd and 4th passengers get more than $75 or not.

 

still not the same.:(:(

[Folk Singer]

Yay! Progress.

 

Now for the important question, did your little boys get a towel animal?;):D

 

 

:):)

[sjpsoccer14]

Royal Caribbean has issued full refunds in addition to a 50% cruise fare credit for a future sailing.

 

 

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[ClCB0911]

Have you all sailed yet...almost 10am.. really sallying today?

[Ocean Boy]

It's such a small thing, this 4th blade, just hiding down there from the divers. I notice no one asked the Chief Engineer how many blades there were.:p He would have been the angry fellow in the white coveralls pacing back and forth on the dock.

 

Not to hyjack the time time here but why do you think they required tugs to be used on Adventure's arrival if both of the azimuthing pods are functional? This has been nagging at me for days. I hope Adventure does not have some other issues that we are not aware of.

 

And I do think someone should ask the captain where this fourth blade came from. It is fairly common knowledge around here that the pods have four blades. I would think that the captain would know. Could it be that no one told him at the start of this that they have four blades to remove? I just don't quite get this.

Edited March 26, 2014 by Ocean Boy

[sjpsoccer14]

Not to hyjack the time time here but why do you think they required tugs to be used on Adventure's arrival if both of the azimuthing pods are functional? This has been nagging at me for days. I hope Adventure does not have some other issues that we are not aware of.

 

 

 

And I do think someone should ask the captain where this fourth blade came from. It is fairly common knowledge around here that the pods have four blades. I would think that the captain would know. Could it be that no one told him at the start of this that they have four blades to remove? I just don't quite get this.

 

 

The tug boats were used to prevent oil from leaking into the harbor. The damaged propeller blade was leaking oil even at a reduced speed.

 

 

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[chengkp75]

Not to hyjack the time time here but why do you think they required tugs to be used on Adventure's arrival if both of the azimuthing pods are functional? This has been nagging at me for days. I hope Adventure does not have some other issues that we are not aware of.

 

And I do think someone should ask the captain where this fourth blade came from. It is fairly common knowledge around here that the pods have four blades. I would think that the captain would know. Could it be that no one told him at the start of this that they have four blades to remove? I just don't quite get this.

 

The tug escort was most likely required (and I don't know the reasoning for sure, as each USCG Captain of the Port has different comfort zones) because the amount of power able to be used was restricted (to keep the center pod from rotating).

[fred30]

Not to hyjack the time time here but why do you think they required tugs to be used on Adventure's arrival if both of the azimuthing pods are functional? This has been nagging at me for days. I hope Adventure does not have some other issues that we are not aware of.

 

This could have been a requirement from the CG.

 

And I do think someone should ask the captain where this fourth blade came from. It is fairly common knowledge around here that the pods have four blades. I would think that the captain would know. Could it be that no one told him at the start of this that they have four blades to remove? I just don't quite get this.

 

Maybe the captain was referring to how many propellers the ship has not how many blades are on each shaft. We don't know how the actual conversation went.

[Ocean Boy]

The tug escort was most likely required (and I don't know the reasoning for sure, as each USCG Captain of the Port has different comfort zones) because the amount of power able to be used was restricted (to keep the center pod from rotating).

 

Is there a way to lock the pod so the prop cannot turn? The drag involved at such a slow speed and for such a short duration of the trip should not have been much of an issue.

[Ocean Boy]

This could have been a requirement from the CG.

 

 

I am sure it was. My question was why as the ship had two stearing mechanisms.

[chengkp75]

Is there a way to lock the pod so the prop cannot turn? The drag involved at such a slow speed and for such a short duration of the trip should not have been much of an issue.

 

I'm not sure if there is a shaft lock or not. It would still depend on how comfortable the COTP and the Captain were with maneuvering the ship. It could also have been a corporate legal decision or a class requirement. Even with two fully functioning azipods, the COTP could require a tug for the departure, he can basically do whatever he wants when it comes to the operation of the port.

[fred30]

I am sure it was. My question was why as the ship had two stearing mechanisms.

 

It could just be a precaution as the CG could not verify the exact problems the ship was having.

[robtulipe]

They have dropped St Martin now. So we will be doing St Lucia, Antigua, and St Croix still. They are still telling us 10am departure. The last bolt on blade 4, which has now been acknowledged, has been removed. Crane has moved into place to bring it out of the water.

This is typical of the mis-information one gets from RCCL concerning all of their cruiselines.

Like Topo Gigio mentioned I doubt there is enough time to get back from St. Lucia even if it was the last port on the revised itinerary which IMO is the only way it could be done if these three ports were to be visited. Even if the ship had a short visit there and left at 1pm to arrived in SJ at 8am the next morning it would need average 21 knots to cover the 400 NM between these two with only two props. The ship maximum speed with three props is 22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph) from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Navigator_of_the_Seas

If they were still to visit three ports the third would have to be a closer one like St. Maarten or St. Kitts which are both within 200 NM or half the distance St. Lucia is.

Edited March 26, 2014 by robtulipe

[cruizinawayinva]

The 4th blade is off. The divers should be up soon and the sail away festivities have begun poolside I believe. It's naptime over here so I have't been up to see it first hand yet.

[rubrrick]

I knew that what Chief said was true (separate power systems), so I wondered about this too...here are my ideas:

 

they had to off load a few room stewards to open some crew cabins for more engineers and mechanics???

 

they are looking to make a few bucks back on a bad situation, a little less laundry is a little more cash on a cruise that is already bleeding profit??

 

Now you are thinking like Mr. Goldstein would think. To H*** with the passengers (clients), keep that bottom line as close to even as possible.

 

Someday, Mr. Fain will wake up, and realize that he needs to have someone with some people skills, as well as business skills at the helm of this company.

 

Somewhere there has to be a balance, and it keeps getting more lopsided, with occurrences such as this. Hopefully the day will come.

[chengkp75]

It could just be a precaution as the CG could not verify the exact problems the ship was having.

 

Actually, since the ship would have had to report a propulsion malfunction on arrival, the USCG would have been onboard prior to leaving the dock to verify that all remaining systems (two pods) were operating fully. The COTP would do this to ensure the ship would not cause damage to the port.

[Aviator of the Seas]

The cruise director is Mercedes. Things on board seem to be going on as scheduled. Shows, activities, contests and such seem to be similar to our previous cruises. I feel like the vast majority of people onboard are really enjoying themselves it seems. Yesterday was really the first time I witnessed the angry mob mentality kick in. I think it is a natural response at this point as we keep being told we will be leaving at X time and then within a few hours of X time they finally tell us we won't be leaving again. The crew is being fantastic and treating us very well trying to give us the best experience they can. And I realize all the information they are giving us, the typed letters, and the timing of most announcements regarding the work and when we should be underway are being determined by Royal. You can see from the body language of the Captain when he is out there checking the progress and hear in his voice in annoucements that he is truly frustrated/disappointed as well.

 

Thank you for the kind reply. Your positive attitude is remarkable. Thank you for the updates and hope you're underway soon.

[fred30]

Actually, since the ship would have had to report a propulsion malfunction on arrival, the USCG would have been onboard prior to leaving the dock to verify that all remaining systems (two pods) were operating fully. The COTP would do this to ensure the ship would not cause damage to the port.

 

Right, but the ship had problems before it got to port. If I recall wasn't it stopped for awhile and going very slow at times. I sure wouldn't want to be the person letting a ship with problems un-excorted into port.

Edited March 26, 2014 by fred30