DutchCruiseFan Posted February 7, 2015 #176 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Spleandor replacing Majesty would be joke, smaller ship with no appeal. I think more appeal then Majesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted February 7, 2015 #177 Share Posted February 7, 2015 What you are suggesting then (see highlighted red area) is that two ships would be based in Miami for Royal....a Voyager class ship to replace Her Majesty and move Enchantment to Miami to do 3/4 day ititneraries keeping Key West as a stop. Therefore you are saying that the Voyager class ship replacing Her Majesty would also be doing 3/4 day itineraries -- just without Key West as a port stop. Somehow I would doubt that Royal would have 2 ships doing 3/4 day itineraries out of Miami. Or am I reading what you meant incorrectly? I believe Hoopster meant that Enchantment would move to Miami to do the Key West itinerary, and a Voyager Class ship would go to PC and just do Nassau/CocoCay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted February 7, 2015 #178 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Vision of the Seas was just re-deployed in the past week to Europe, showing up at Riviera Ports, Venice and Kusadasi and her transatlantic was just booked yesterday with a call in Key West, Funchal and Malaga on her way to Barcelona. A port agent calendar from Key West has indicated that Vision was the intended replacement for Majesty at the port of Miami. http://www.calendarwiz.com/calendars/calendar.php?month=5&day=12&year=2016&crd=caribenautical&PHPSESSID=b9df65d7f42c76d02b80fd1c7a3d0fa7 They actually have booked a Miami ship past normal deployment and have the slot held until December of 2017. While I am happy they had planned to leave a ship at Miami, the port calls have not yet been shifted to another ship. If they have decided to bring Splendour over to replace Vision at Miami is still unclear. Splendour was one of the first ships that RCI revitalized in the 'Now our best ship is every ship' renovations. http://www.creative.rccl.com/Sales/Royal/General_Info/Flyers/12028421_Revit_QuickReference_Guide.pdf Could it be that the decision was swayed by Splendour's success in the Brazilian and Latin American market along with having a Romero Britto Gallery onboard? http://www.royalcaribbean.com/connect/romero-britto-and-royal-caribbean-a-true-work-of-art/ Brilliance will also call on Key West in November on her return TA and then every other Saturday throughout the Tampa home port season. The only problem I see with replacing Majesty with Splendour is the fact that Majesty has a larger capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzerci Posted February 7, 2015 #179 Share Posted February 7, 2015 The only problem I see with replacing Majesty with Splendour is the fact that Majesty has a larger capacity. That's exactly why I do see them replacing Majesty with Splendor. Majesty last minute deals are almost always hitting rock bottom prices. With a slightly smaller ship that has more amenities than Majesty does, they could likely end that trend of bottoming out prices to fill the ship by simple supply and demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted February 7, 2015 #180 Share Posted February 7, 2015 That's exactly why I do see them replacing Majesty with Splendor. Majesty last minute deals are almost always hitting rock bottom prices. With a slightly smaller ship that has more amenities than Majesty does, they could likely end that trend of bottoming out prices to fill the ship by simple supply and demand. Good point, I don't follow Majesty's pricing, so I wasn't really aware of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzerci Posted February 7, 2015 #181 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I think more appeal then Majesty. Absolutely, Majesty has almost no appeal at this point compared to the rest of the fleet and the competiton. She's been outdated for ten years and has almost none of the features that modern cruise ships do (larger cabins, specialty dining, balcony staterooms, concierge, adults only pools, etc.) Splendour isn't larger than Majesty, but she has all of the above and a more modern design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted February 7, 2015 #182 Share Posted February 7, 2015 The only problem I see with replacing Majesty with Splendour is the fact that Majesty has a larger capacity. Not promoting the idea, just reporting. If Vision was planned she had capacity of 2514. Splendour has a capacity of just 2074 currently. It could always be a three part transfer with Splendour freeing up the ship being sent to Miami. Splendour could take Harwich, for instance, and free up the ship they were going to send there, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted February 7, 2015 #183 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Not promoting the idea, just reporting. If Vision was planned she had capacity of 2514. Splendour has a capacity of just 2074 currently. It could always be a three part transfer with Splendour freeing up the ship being sent to Miami. Splendour could take Harwich, for instance, and free up the ship they were going to send there, if any. I'm not promoting or against the idea either, I was just pointing out the problem that I saw. Good point about a three part transfer. Maybe Enchantment to Miami (w/ more capacity) and Splendour to PC. Just guessing here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted February 7, 2015 #184 Share Posted February 7, 2015 That's exactly why I do see them replacing Majesty with Splendor. Majesty last minute deals are almost always hitting rock bottom prices. With a slightly smaller ship that has more amenities than Majesty does, they could likely end that trend of bottoming out prices to fill the ship by simple supply and demand. While I was very impressed with Majesty and she is a very well run ship, Splendour or any of the options will give RCI many more revenue options. The Splendour public rooms have the following capacities: *Revenue centers Public Rooms Capacity King & I Dining Room 991 Windjammer Café 550 Chops Grille 52 Izumi 38 Chef's Table 12 Park Café 42 Izumi 38 Boardwalk Dog House 28 Latte'tudes 12 42nd Street Theater 802 Top Hat Lounge 338 Casino Royale 240 Public Rooms Capacity Schooner Bar 104 Viking Crown Lounge/Nightclub 67 R Bar 33 Diamond Club Lounge 35 Concierge Lounge 35 Britto Gallery Adventure Ocean Youth Area 40 Royal Babies & Tots Nursery 8 Optix Teen Disco 30 Conference Center 106 Compared to Majesty Johnny Rockets 72 Compass Deli 52 Casino Royale 302 A Chorus Line 1,027 Public Rooms Capacity Spectrum Lounge 257 Viking Crown Lounge 229 Schooner Bar 142 Boleros 257 Latte'tudes 26 Adventure Ocean 83 Fuel Nightclub/The Living Room 40 The Back Deck 44 Conference Center 239 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzerci Posted February 7, 2015 #185 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I'm not promoting or against the idea either, I was just pointing out the problem that I saw. Good point about a three part transfer. Maybe Enchantment to Miami (w/ more capacity) and Splendour to PC. Just guessing here... That's a good point. I see them putting the ship with larger capacity in Port Canaveral, though, due to the more central location (driving distance) to several other states, the attraction of Orlando theme parks, and the slightly higher prices the PC ships (Monarch and Enchantment) have usually commanded over the Majesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted February 7, 2015 #186 Share Posted February 7, 2015 While I was very impressed with Majesty and she is a very well run ship, Splendour or any of the options will give RCI many more revenue options. The Splendour public rooms have the following capacities: *Revenue centers Public Rooms Capacity King & I Dining Room 991 Windjammer Café 550 Chops Grille 52 Izumi 38 Chef's Table 12 Park Café 42 Izumi 38 Boardwalk Dog House 28 Latte'tudes 12 42nd Street Theater 802 Top Hat Lounge 338 Casino Royale 240 Public Rooms Capacity Schooner Bar 104 Viking Crown Lounge/Nightclub 67 R Bar 33 Diamond Club Lounge 35 Concierge Lounge 35 Britto Gallery Adventure Ocean Youth Area 40 Royal Babies & Tots Nursery 8 Optix Teen Disco 30 Conference Center 106 Compared to Majesty Johnny Rockets 72 Compass Deli 52 Casino Royale 302 A Chorus Line 1,027 Public Rooms Capacity Spectrum Lounge 257 Viking Crown Lounge 229 Schooner Bar 142 Boleros 257 Latte'tudes 26 Adventure Ocean 83 Fuel Nightclub/The Living Room 40 The Back Deck 44 Conference Center 239 When you look at this way, IMO, it almost seems like a no-brainer. That's a good point. I see them putting the ship with larger capacity in Port Canaveral, though, due to the more central location (driving distance) to several other states, the attraction of Orlando theme parks, and the slightly higher prices the PC ships (Monarch and Enchantment) have usually commanded over the Majesty. Another good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchCruiseFan Posted February 7, 2015 #187 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I really hope Splendour remains in the fleet for a while. Especially Caribbean routes:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted February 7, 2015 #188 Share Posted February 7, 2015 If Royal was sending Freedom of the Seas to Europe I am certain they would not be booking under that name. Maybe Independence = Freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted February 7, 2015 #189 Share Posted February 7, 2015 If Royal was sending Freedom of the Seas to Europe I am certain they would not be booking under that name.Maybe Independence = Freedom. If your speculation is correct, do you think she'd be sailing from Southampton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted February 7, 2015 #190 Share Posted February 7, 2015 If your speculation is correct, do you think she'd be sailing from Southampton? Just making a point of view that may fit somewhere in the puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted February 7, 2015 #191 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Just making a point of view that may fit somewhere in the puzzle. Gotcha. Personally, I'd love to sail Freedom in the Med! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchCruiseFan Posted February 7, 2015 #192 Share Posted February 7, 2015 If Royal was sending Freedom of the Seas to Europe I am certain they would not be booking under that name.Maybe Independence = Freedom. Why wouldn't they say it was Freedom? Independence is from the same class so why would they book under that name?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ourusualbeach Posted February 7, 2015 #193 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Why wouldn't they say it was Freedom?Independence is from the same class so why would they book under that name?:confused: Then what would we have to talk about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted February 7, 2015 #194 Share Posted February 7, 2015 The Jewel of the Seas should return to Alaska in May of 2016 if a clue left with the Monterey, CA port is an indicator. Jewel is booked through the agent for RCL on May 15, 2016 at Monterey. http://monterey.org/en-us/Departments/Harbor-Marina/Cruise-Ship-and-Tall-Ship-Visits She is not currently booked at Astoria Oregon, though. http://portofastoria.com/Cruise%20Ship%20Log%202016.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruzerci Posted February 7, 2015 #195 Share Posted February 7, 2015 If Royal was sending Freedom of the Seas to Europe I am certain they would not be booking under that name.Maybe Independence = Freedom. Why wouldn't they? It's not like it would be something revolutionary. She's just an older Independence and Liberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted February 7, 2015 #196 Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) The Jewel of the Seas should return to Alaska in May of 2016 if a clue left with the Monterey, CA port is an indicator. Jewel is booked through the agent for RCL on May 15, 2016 at Monterey. http://monterey.org/en-us/Departments/Harbor-Marina/Cruise-Ship-and-Tall-Ship-Visits [/url] Thanks for the information! :) That does not support my thoughts that Jewel will sail out of Harwich in 2016... So for me, it is still a big question which ship sails from Harwich, if not Brilliance... :confused: I do not see Freedom moving to Southampton? Why?? Navigator alredy switches to Southampton, and sice in 2015 Anthem is debuting from Southampton, I am pretty sure that RCI intends to deploy a Quantum Class ship from Southampton in 2016 as well... IMHO Independence otS, listed in several European ports in 2016, is just a placeholder for Ovation... ;) Edited February 7, 2015 by celebrity_fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintL Posted February 7, 2015 #197 Share Posted February 7, 2015 (edited) I find this thread fascinating. It is clear all of you have studied itineraries and ports enough to see the patterns. Thanks for the entertainment. What makes me roll my eyes are a few Florida cruisers on this thread. :rolleyes: As if the world revolves around Florida. You need new ships because you are tired of the old ones. It is a shame you have so "few" choices. . . . OK go ahead and flame me--but, I just had to get that off my chest. Well whatever makes you feel better, this is a forum to bost your opinions as that is what I am here for. Florida is the largest cruise market, not New York, Boston, or even Baltimore and floridians expect the best from cruising we don't need to settle for anything as all cruise lines put their best. Edited February 7, 2015 by SaintL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintL Posted February 7, 2015 #198 Share Posted February 7, 2015 I think more appeal then Majesty. Splendor couldn't compete well with Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintL Posted February 7, 2015 #199 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Good point, I don't follow Majesty's pricing, so I wasn't really aware of that. The pricing is low because the market calls for it, 3 day cruises get filled mainly by locals, they want a good deal, what the cruise line gets out of it is a lot of onboard spending on alcohol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames Posted February 7, 2015 #200 Share Posted February 7, 2015 So, it was suggested to start a new thread for the new year (2016 - 2017) What ships will be sailing where? Speculation welcome :D Thank You Karen for getting this started:cool: Carol:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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