Rare John&LaLa Posted June 10, 2015 #101 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Don't be hating the booze smugglers, because the wine and champagnelovers are next. The booze smugglers (myself) keep the heat off the lovers of the grape. And the ships water is sourced mostly from the ports visited. So the swelling ankles are not from the ships water. Look for the blue hoses on the pier. I thought they had desalination plants onboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havingfun2010 Posted June 10, 2015 #102 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Please remember that this is RCCL, and not Carnival. Carnival has some serious issues when it comes to smuggling. Not only is smuggling an issue, but families bring shopping cart load of soda and water on board. People use fold up hand trucks. This policy is is to control "slightly" some of their issues. The last thing we want RCCL to be is anything like Carnival. It would not be bad, if you could buy water for those that think it's better than the tap water. Since some bottled water is nothing more than tap water filtered, and since the ship already filters the water the same way as they do for the tap water, they can produce their own brand of water and sell it! (Next to the free water). Wouldn't that be funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bases5 Posted June 10, 2015 #103 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Please remember that this is RCCL, and not Carnival. Carnival has some serious issues when it comes to smuggling. Not only is smuggling an issue, but families bring shopping cart load of soda and water on board. People use fold up hand trucks. This policy is is to control "slightly" some of their issues. The last thing we want RCCL to be is anything like Carnival. It would not be bad, if you could buy water for those that think it's better than the tap water. Since some bottled water is nothing more than tap water filtered, and since the ship already filters the water the same way as they do for the tap water, they can produce their own brand of water and sell it! (Next to the free water). Wouldn't that be funny! OMG. Really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM38Rob Posted June 10, 2015 #104 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Glass has nothing to do with it. It's more about the ease of opening something like a soda or water bottle, replacing the contents with alcohol, and putting the cap back on. It's not quite as easy to re-seal an aluminum soda can. And I don't think they're naive enough to think this change will make it impossible for anyone to sneak liquor onboard. It just makes it a little bit harder. Someone can take a 12 pack of soda, carefully open the cardboard at one end, remove the cans of soda and replace them with 12 cans of beer, then reseal the the end with superglue or hot glue gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiogymrat Posted June 10, 2015 #105 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Someone can take a 12 pack of soda, carefully open the cardboard at one end, remove the cans of soda and replace them with 12 cans of beer, then reseal the the end with superglue or hot glue gun. I've seen security open up and inspect the contents,then tape it back up. It's not their first rodeo...lol they can't stop everyone,but if anyone is that obvious,they will get caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted June 10, 2015 #106 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I've seen security open up and inspect the contents,then tape it back up. It's not their first rodeo...lol they can't stop everyone,but if anyone is that obvious,they will get caught. 4 sodas and 8 beers might work then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiogymrat Posted June 10, 2015 #107 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) 4 sodas and 8 beers might work then By inspect I meant they took out all the cans. If they just looked at the ones initially visible,it would be pointless. If they were shaking and inspecting ever bottle,that lets you know how thorough they are in these situations. Edited June 10, 2015 by ohiogymrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Sam Posted June 10, 2015 #108 Share Posted June 10, 2015 It would be nice change if they offered drinks from the bar at a reasonable price. Oh yeah. You are so correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted June 11, 2015 #109 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I thought they had desalination plants onboard They do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted June 11, 2015 #110 Share Posted June 11, 2015 By inspect I meant they took out all the cans. If they just looked at the ones initially visible,it would be pointless. If they were shaking and inspecting ever bottle,that lets you know how thorough they are in these situations. What they should do is take out the cans, empty the cans, fill the cans with water, reseal the cans and finally reseal the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepeka Posted June 11, 2015 #111 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) Please remember that this is RCCL, and not Carnival. Carnival has some serious issues when it comes to smuggling. Not only is smuggling an issue, but families bring shopping cart load of soda and water on board. People use fold up hand trucks. This policy is is to control "slightly" some of their issues. The last thing we want RCCL to be is anything like Carnival. It would not be bad, if you could buy water for those that think it's better than the tap water. Since some bottled water is nothing more than tap water filtered, and since the ship already filters the water the same way as they do for the tap water, they can produce their own brand of water and sell it! (Next to the free water). Wouldn't that be funny! You've made your anti-Carnival feelings felt in other posts here and on the CCL board. Time to give it a little rest, don't you think? No cruise line is perfect for everyone. Edited June 11, 2015 by joepeka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havingfun2010 Posted June 11, 2015 #112 Share Posted June 11, 2015 You've made your anti-Carnival feelings felt in other posts here and on the CCL board. Time to give it a little rest, don't you think? No cruise line is perfect for everyone. Yes, but look at the uproar on Carnival over this policy and the policy of returning bottles of booze in the morning of debarking instead of the night before. Carnival has recognized that they are having a ballooning problem with abuse of alcohol and they are doing things to curb it. One of the reasons I like RCCL is that drunks are not banging on doors in the middle of the night, which occurred on two separate occasions. Yes, I am extremely happy when I see Carnival finally trying to fix their issues. Will this stop it all. No, but it is also a sign that they lost control and have recognized it. So why is it that other cruise lines, including RCCL can trust their guest and Carnival can't? These boards are an open discussion, and with any open discussion, the good and the bad are discussed. It's not all meant to be sugar coated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepeka Posted June 11, 2015 #113 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yes, but look at the uproar on Carnival over this policy and the policy of returning bottles of booze in the morning of debarking instead of the night before. Carnival has recognized that they are having a ballooning problem with abuse of alcohol and they are doing things to curb it. One of the reasons I like RCCL is that drunks are not banging on doors in the middle of the night, which occurred on two separate occasions. Yes, I am extremely happy when I see Carnival finally trying to fix their issues. Will this stop it all. No, but it is also a sign that they lost control and have recognized it. So why is it that other cruise lines, including RCCL can trust their guest and Carnival can't? These boards are an open discussion, and with any open discussion, the good and the bad are discussed. It's not all meant to be sugar coated. I do have to apologize for my earlier comments. I normally strive to keep my comments objective and non-judgmental but slipped up in this case. You're correct - this is an open discussion board and your opinions are just as important as mine. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted June 11, 2015 #114 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Yes, but look at the uproar on Carnival over this policy and the policy of returning bottles of booze in the morning of debarking instead of the night before. Carnival has recognized that they are having a ballooning problem with abuse of alcohol and they are doing things to curb it. One of the reasons I like RCCL is that drunks are not banging on doors in the middle of the night, which occurred on two separate occasions. Yes, I am extremely happy when I see Carnival finally trying to fix their issues. Will this stop it all. No, but it is also a sign that they lost control and have recognized it. So why is it that other cruise lines, including RCCL can trust their guest and Carnival can't? These boards are an open discussion, and with any open discussion, the good and the bad are discussed. It's not all meant to be sugar coated. Royal Caribbean has its own issues, which is why my next cruise on Royal Caribbean will be my last for at least three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted June 11, 2015 #115 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Royal Caribbean has its own issues, which is why my next cruise on Royal Caribbean will be my last for at least three years. We will miss you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted June 12, 2015 #116 Share Posted June 12, 2015 We will miss you Thank you, but I don't think everybody feels the same way you do. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted June 12, 2015 #117 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Thank you, but I don't think everybody feels the same way you do. :) Maybe you're an acquired taste. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted June 12, 2015 #118 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Maybe you're an acquired taste. ;) I've been called worse. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireofficer5 Posted June 12, 2015 #119 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Ships distill sea water into fresh water with the heat from the engine. No reverse osmosis desalinating plants on ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted June 12, 2015 #120 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Ships distill sea water into fresh water with the heat from the engine. No reverse osmosis desalinating plants on ships. I could have sworn the Chief Engineer on Monarch said they had both desalination and reverse osmosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitzmark Posted June 12, 2015 #121 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I could have sworn the Chief Engineer on Monarch said they had both desalination and reverse osmosis. Quick google search reveals that cruise ships desalinate water using either flash evaporators or osmosis. They don't do it in port because of coastal pollution. After they desalinate the water it is further treated in a mineralization plant, sanitized etc. searches on rci ships show at least some with reverse osmosis desalination units installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeagle12 Posted June 12, 2015 #122 Share Posted June 12, 2015 From RCI Onboard production. We use steam desalination or reverse osmosis to convert seawater into fresh potable water. We also produce water through waste heat recovery. We heat diesel engine cooling water and steam from exhaust gas boilers and turn it to steam. Bunkering. We acquire water from local sources at our ports of call. This is known as “bunkering.” Capturing condensation. The condensation from air conditioning systems is collected for such uses as machinery operation and doing laundry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted June 12, 2015 #123 Share Posted June 12, 2015 http://www.marineinsight.com/tech/auxiliary-machinery/reverse-osmosis-modern-alternative-for-shipboard-water-production/ http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/18/idUSnHUG4qfJ2d+1c4+ONE20141218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted June 12, 2015 #124 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Ships distill sea water into fresh water with the heat from the engine. No reverse osmosis desalinating plants on ships. You mean the chief engineer at the Captain's Corner has been lying to us all these years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjdixon4 Posted June 12, 2015 #125 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Quick google search reveals that cruise ships desalinate water using either flash evaporators or osmosis. They don't do it in port because of coastal pollution. After they desalinate the water it is further treated in a mineralization plant, sanitized etc. searches on rci ships show at least some with reverse osmosis desalination units installed. Huh??? Are we still talking bottled drinking water here?...'cause this just got a little deep for someone who just needs liquid to take her meds in the morning and ward off the noonday heat! :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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