Wearing dress shorts in MDR on Adventure of the Seas

[grapau27]

Pretty much my thoughts as well. I do wonder why the cruise lines bother with having dress codes but don't bother enforcing them. It seems like they are trying to appeal to both sides of the argument while not actually pleasing either.

 

Enforce the codes or just say all naughty bits must be covered and you must not be still wet from the pool and be done with it.

 

Sorry sitting on a wet chair WILL ruin my dinner. I don't like having a wet butt especially if it's someone else's wet! [emoji15]

 

 

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When we were on Freedom in June there was a dress code notice at the entrance to MTD with regard to no shorts but people ignored it.

When the Maitre d came to our table i casually asked about the shorts and he said they could not stop people wearing shorts in the MTD restaurant on casual nights.

 

 

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[grapau27]

What do you think about the stench of smoke on ones person? Does that not bother you as well. To us, that is one of the most nauseating smells.

 

 

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I agree with that but as we always get a table for 2 that issue at dinner doesn't affect us.

 

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[grapau27]

I live in Palm Beach County Florida; unless a restaurant wants to be out of business in 2 weeks, they allow shorts. I'm sure some high end, expensive establishments do not, but they would be insulted being compared to a cruise ship main dining room, and I don't go to them anyways. Between Palm Beach, Fort Lauderdale, and Miami, we have some of the best chefs and restaurants in the world. At many of them resort casual is the order of the day, and yes that means shorts. Sometimes I wear pants to dinner (mainly in winter). Summer, never.

 

As to you having to go to specialty because of people like me; specialty dining on RCI is always smart casual. They do not follow formal dress code. If formal is your thing, the MDR is your best bet. I'm glad you remember all of the special touches that the cruise line did to make dining a memorable experience, and why so many people can remember it 10, 20, 30 + years later. Is today's MDR experience memorable? Ehhhh.

 

Why am I against pants? I'm not. Except there are times I've been very hot and uncomfortable in the MDR. If I am just going to change after dinner, and no one can really see anything about me from the chest down, why should I do something for two hours a day I don't enjoy? I'd never dream to ask you to be uncomfortable for part of your vacation just because a stranger might see you for 90 seconds. I bring them on vacation, if I want to wear them I will, if not, I don't. I've got some tan and black slacks I bring; wear 'em with a polo. That's as good as it's going to get. Write a letter to RCI and tell them you pay more than ever while they provide less. See if they blame iton me not wearing a suit.

We are from England and when we come to Orlando Florida i wear shorts and Polo shirt every night because of the heat so i can empathise with you when you are at home in Florida.

 

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[Bizzie07]

On our recent Rhapsody cruise the Compass stated " Please note that bare feet, short pants, caps and tank tops are not recommended in the Dining Rooms or any of our Speciality Restaurants". Doesn't say anything about "not allowed"

[Milwaukee Eight]

Again....these are two different issues.

 

 

 

First:

 

"Dress suggestion" is for "type of dress" (formal, casipual, smart casua) a guidance on how you should dress and how you should anticipate your fellow pax will dress that evening.

 

 

 

Second:

 

"Rule"

 

"No shorts permitted in the dining room at dinner"

 

 

 

"Type of dress" is a "suggestion".

 

"Not permitted" = rule

 

 

 

Let me ask you this...

 

If Royal "asks" someone to do something, is this a suggestion or a rule? Would you expect cruisers to follow the rule?

 

 

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[cjdixon4]

Not defending anyone's poor personal hygiene. We find it very offense and disgusting as you and most others do. No matter what they are wearing. I respect your opinion but just out of curiosity, who should be asking someone with poor personal hygiene to leave? I wouldn't say anything to the stinky person if they were at our table. We would politely ask the headwaiter to move us to another table. Hopefully far away.

 

Being moved to another table is a possible option.

[davekathy]

Being moved to another table is a possible option.

 

An option we shouldn't need to choose. This is another reason we elect to dine at a table for two.

[$hip$hape]

An option we shouldn't need to choose.

This is another reason we elect to dine at a table for two.

Agree. The move may mean delaying your dining experience.

Which may be okay if you have nothing else scheduled, like a show. :)

[skiiergirl]

Let me ask you this...

 

If Royal "asks" someone to do something, is this a suggestion or a rule? Would you expect cruisers to follow the rule?

 

 

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You mean something like this:

 

RC employee: "Mrs. Pax, I am so sorry but our policy is "no seat saving". Would you please not save those seats?"

 

Versus

 

RC employee: "Mrs. Pax, I am so sorry but, as stated on the signs/in the Compass (whatever each ship does) you are not permitted to save those seats. Please remove your belongings so that other pax may sit there. I appreciate your cooperation. "

 

In either scenario, Mrs. Pax should comply with the "rule". Just because it was "asked" rather than "stated" makes it no less of a "rule".

 

The point is that whatever "the rule"....it is a "stated"/"printed"/"announced" rule that pax should accept and comply.

 

I believe most everyone here isn't "upset" about the actual wearing of shorts....they are "upset" because the pax that are wearing the shorts are being disrespectful to the other pax, the employees, and the cruise line by disobeying the rules.

 

Wouldn't it be a super fun cruise if we just all ignored all of the rules???? It is our vacation! We paid for it! We can do anything we want at home. Let's all do whatever we want while on the ship and forget all of the rules! I'm in! 😬

[$hip$hape]

You mean something like this:

 

RC employee: "Mrs. Pax, I am so sorry but our policy is "no seat saving".

Would you please not save those seats?"

Wouldn't it be a super fun cruise if we just all ignored all of the rules????

On one cruise, WE could not find seats for the show.

BTW., I wore long pants/trousers.

 

Then noticed lots of empty seats in the upper "“hoity-toity”" section.

Since we had a couple of drinks, we unconsciously made our way and sat.

Wonderful experience.;p

Edited August 14, 2017 by $hip$hape

[cwilso37]

I believe most everyone here isn't "upset" about the actual wearing of shorts....they are "upset" because the pax that are wearing the shorts are being disrespectful to the other pax, the employees, and the cruise line by disobeying the rules.

 

Wouldn't it be a super fun cruise if we just all ignored all of the rules???? It is our vacation! We paid for it! We can do anything we want at home. Let's all do whatever we want while on the ship and forget all of the rules! I'm in! 😬

 

 

 

I am not sure that most people are "upset" by that. If this thread is an indication of anything, it is that people are more upset about the "lower" classes just not conforming to some arbitrary level of class or sophistication. It is holding onto some memory of how things were and lamenting how far cruises and society has fallen.

 

Let's be honest, at the level of NCL, RCL, and CCL cruises are little more than a floating flea market. Bingo cards, drink packages, and dining packages hocked at each stall. Not following some rule, which is clear is arbitrary in both use as well as in policy, is in no way disrespectful to other "other pax, the employees, and the cruise line". Now if I walked around yelling obscenities, that is rude and disrespectful to others. My actions could be seen as harming you in some way or form. My wearing of shorts is not that.

 

IF people wish to go back to the way cruising used to be, they should be willing to spend the cost of what it used to cost (a higher level cruise line).

[skiiergirl]

I am not sure that most people are "upset" by that. If this thread is an indication of anything, it is that people are more upset about the "lower" classes just not conforming to some arbitrary level of class or sophistication. It is holding onto some memory of how things were and lamenting how far cruises and society has fallen.

 

Let's be honest, at the level of NCL, RCL, and CCL cruises are little more than a floating flea market. Bingo cards, drink packages, and dining packages hocked at each stall. Not following some rule, which is clear is arbitrary in both use as well as in policy, is in no way disrespectful to other "other pax, the employees, and the cruise line". Now if I walked around yelling obscenities, that is rude and disrespectful to others. My actions could be seen as harming you in some way or form. My wearing of shorts is not that.

 

IF people wish to go back to the way cruising used to be, they should be willing to spend the cost of what it used to cost (a higher level cruise line).

 

 

It took awhile but y'all have convinced me! I have been dressing incorrectly! I have now changed my packing list! I will no longer have to worry about luggage being overweight! I can cut down my packing tremendously! I now will come in from the island and shower. No need for "evening attire" (casual or formal)! I will save some time later in the evening also. I now will shower and just put my pajamas on. No need for undies/bra. May or may not use robe....depends on temperature. I will be very comfy in the show, in the casino, and at dinner. Will save me time when I get back to the room too! Don't have to undress and don't have to hang those pesky "evening" clothes up. Now that I think of it....I can go straight to breakfast when I wake up! After that I can put my swimsuit on for the day! Won't even be breaking any rules!Wow! I am so glad y'all have "taught" me a new way to dress and pack! Love it! Thanks to all!

[$hip$hape]

It took awhile but y'all have convinced me!

Will save me time too!

Now that I think of it.... Won't even be breaking any rules!��

Wow! I am so glad y'all have "taught" me a new way to dress and pack!

Love it!

Thanks to all!

 

Wonderful ! You sound so "normal".

I love you all!

[Husky1987]

It took awhile but y'all have convinced me! I have been dressing incorrectly! I have now changed my packing list! I will no longer have to worry about luggage being overweight! I can cut down my packing tremendously! I now will come in from the island and shower. No need for "evening attire" (casual or formal)! I will save some time later in the evening also. I now will shower and just put my pajamas on. No need for undies/bra. May or may not use robe....depends on temperature. I will be very comfy in the show, in the casino, and at dinner. Will save me time when I get back to the room too! Don't have to undress and don't have to hang those pesky "evening" clothes up. Now that I think of it....I can go straight to breakfast when I wake up! After that I can put my swimsuit on for the day! Won't even be breaking any rules!��Wow! I am so glad y'all have "taught" me a new way to dress and pack! Love it! Thanks to all!

 

Funny thing is....the people in this thread that agree with you are the only ones who would give a rat's behind that you wore pajamas. The rest of us would take one look, say "meh...whatever" and go on with our cruise and our lives....

[$hip$hape]

Funny thing is....

the people in this thread that agree with you are

the only ones who would give a rat's behind that you wore pajamas.

The rest of us would take one look, say "meh...whatever" and go on with our cruise and our lives....

Doesn't it seem to be "the rats'" that are the most memorable part of the cruise?

Especially if they are wearing pajamas?:p

If things were just normal, I'd have nothing to remember.

I love cruising.

 

Note to self... bring pajamas

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[bigque]

I am not sure that most people are "upset" by that. If this thread is an indication of anything, it is that people are more upset about the "lower" classes just not conforming to some arbitrary level of class or sophistication. It is holding onto some memory of how things were and lamenting how far cruises and society has fallen.

 

IF people wish to go back to the way cruising used to be, they should be willing to spend the cost of what it used to cost (a higher level cruise line).

 

[deepcman]

And the cruise line stopped that. Not the guests. The guests wanting a more resort casual setting is a result of cruise ships being built to be more resort casual and family friendly. They build ships to accommodate 5000-6000 guests now, not 1500-2000 guests. The company simply has followed the money and part of that was cutting the costs of what they provide.

 

But the MDR is no longer the best meal or service on the ship; things are designed that way. If the MDR was the best, why go pay additional for specialty? So MDR is limited. I think the staff, the food, the ambiance is basically the same on every night already. People are treated well, within the capability of staffing levels. What is anyone else doing that is diminishing your experience other than the cruise line?

 

Please stop with extreme, nonsense about vulgar offensive sayings on clothes or shorts with body parts hanging out. I wear clean, non-athletic shorts with a belt, boat shoes, and a polo shirt just above every day where I live. I go out to eat that way. I don't wear my gym shorts or lawn mowing clothing, I don't even own any t-shirts with slogans, let alone vulgar ones, on them. You are lumping in everyone together and it's patently unfair.

 

The cruise line did not stop providing a service because guests didn't dress for it. Don't YOU still dress for it? But they still don't give that service. It's just to save money. Period. No one is trying to actively go out and offend other guests, they just want to be comfortable and recognize there's nothing really different any given night. Waiters dressing slightly differently doesn't cut it as meaningful because it has no impact on the food or service.

 

Is any of this clicking? You and I paid for the same food and service. Do you really believe the staff care what you wear or are going to somehow magically make staff levels double to yesteryear because you dressed nicely? What if I told you I didn't think you dressed nicely enough for what you want? You'll not tell me to go get less than I paid for.

 

LMaxwell......We can always count on you to embed some sanity in ridiculous conversations. You should apply to be a moderator but you'd be banning people left and right.

 

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[Biker19]

You should apply to be a moderator but you'd be banning people left and right.

:cool:

[southeastsun]

When RCL changes the dress code, then you may wear what you want. until then follow the dress code. Sure was nice to see the sign posted on the Explorer. Perhaps DINC got the message and yes email Mr. Michael Bayley in miami and you get results. If a male wants to show his ugly hairy legs and be confortable, THEN WEAR A DRESS.

[Milwaukee Eight]

You mean something like this:

 

RC employee: "Mrs. Pax, I am so sorry but our policy is "no seat saving". Would you please not save those seats?"

 

Versus

 

RC employee: "Mrs. Pax, I am so sorry but, as stated on the signs/in the Compass (whatever each ship does) you are not permitted to save those seats. Please remove your belongings so that other pax may sit there. I appreciate your cooperation. "

 

In either scenario, Mrs. Pax should comply with the "rule". Just because it was "asked" rather than "stated" makes it no less of a "rule".

 

The point is that whatever "the rule"....it is a "stated"/"printed"/"announced" rule that pax should accept and comply.

 

I believe most everyone here isn't "upset" about the actual wearing of shorts....they are "upset" because the pax that are wearing the shorts are being disrespectful to the other pax, the employees, and the cruise line by disobeying the rules.

 

Wouldn't it be a super fun cruise if we just all ignored all of the rules???? It is our vacation! We paid for it! We can do anything we want at home. Let's all do whatever we want while on the ship and forget all of the rules! I'm in! 😬

 

Using your analysis, if Royal sent you an email ask or requested you to board by deck number with assigned time, would you do so? Sounds like a rule to me and not a suggestion.

[Milwaukee Eight]

On one cruise, WE could not find seats for the show.

BTW., I wore long pants/trousers.

 

Then noticed lots of empty seats in the upper "“hoity-toity”" section.

Since we had a couple of drinks, we unconsciously made our way and sat.

Wonderful experience.;p

 

What is or who is the"“hoity-toity”" (your words)? Next you might as well have said, but I am Diamond.

[Milwaukee Eight]

I am not sure that most people are "upset" by that. If this thread is an indication of anything, it is that people are more upset about the "lower" classes just not conforming to some arbitrary level of class or sophistication. It is holding onto some memory of how things were and lamenting how far cruises and society has fallen.

 

Let's be honest, at the level of NCL, RCL, and CCL cruises are little more than a floating flea market. Bingo cards, drink packages, and dining packages hocked at each stall. Not following some rule, which is clear is arbitrary in both use as well as in policy, is in no way disrespectful to other "other pax, the employees, and the cruise line". Now if I walked around yelling obscenities, that is rude and disrespectful to others. My actions could be seen as harming you in some way or form. My wearing of shorts is not that.

 

IF people wish to go back to the way cruising used to be, they should be willing to spend the cost of what it used to cost (a higher level cruise line).

 

What do you mean about the lower classes and unsophisticated ?

[grapau27]

What is or who is the"“hoity-toity”" (your words)? Next you might as well have said, but I am Diamond.

In England hoity toity are snooty people.

 

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[Milwaukee Eight]

Doesn't it seem to be "the rats'" that are the most memorable part of the cruise?

Especially if they are wearing pajamas?:p

If things were just normal, I'd have nothing to remember.

I love cruising.

 

Note to self... bring pajamas

 

I have pictures of ladies in PJ's in the SL/CK as well has swim suits and trunks, towels and flip flops.

[Milwaukee Eight]

When RCL changes the dress code, then you may wear what you want. until then follow the dress code. Sure was nice to see the sign posted on the Explorer. Perhaps DINC got the message and yes email Mr. Michael Bayley in miami and you get results. If a male wants to show his ugly hairy legs and be confortable, THEN WEAR A DRESS.

 

We have seen that too, men in dresses ..... not talking about kilts.