Help with terms of carriage?

[BekkaW]

People did attempt to answer the question but the OP was not completely truthful originally. She fell while wearing slippers given to her by the cruise line - but they were not (the spa is an independent contractor) - and wants to know what she can get (she mentioned OBC and FCC). Having spent most of my life working in law, I can tell her this is called contributory negligence (walking in slippers she knew had no tread across a wet pool deck). Sort of like someone hit my parked car but, wait, I was double parked at the time so contributed to the accident. I get nothing.

 

Contributory negligence does not mean you get nothing. It reduces the damages by the amount of your contribution, as a percentage. So if the judge finds you contributed 30% to the situation by being double parked (for example) then you lose 30% of the awarded damages. Because the person who hit you still had to take care.

[smplybcause]

Contributory negligence does not mean you get nothing. It reduces the damages by the amount of your contribution, as a percentage. So if the judge finds you contributed 30% to the situation by being double parked (for example) then you lose 30% of the awarded damages. Because the person who hit you still had to take care.

It varies, not all states have that law.

 

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[Expat Cruise]

It varies, not all states have that law.

 

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The cases are not heard under state law, the state laws mean very little if anything for these cases.

 

 

Several people have said that.

 

But realize, those specialists in law are unlikely to take on a contingency case.

 

So you can spend thousands on a lawyer, to get a judgement of hundreds.

 

These cases are done on a contingency basis, and it does not need to be thousands. Most lawyers handling these cases will look t the case for no cost and give a opinion and if he / she will take the case. So no upfront money needs to be spent by the client.

[A&L_Ont]

These cases are done on a contingency basis, and it does not need to be thousands. Most lawyers handling these cases will look t the case for no cost and give a opinion and if he / she will take the case. So no upfront money needs to be spent by the client.

 

They also more apt to take these cases if there is a large payout. This fall doesn’t seem to make the case.

 

Sure she can call a lawyer, maybe get a few thousand dollars, and never sail on Royal again. Her option.

[SRF]

These cases are done on a contingency basis, and it does not need to be thousands. Most lawyers handling these cases will look t the case for no cost and give a opinion and if he / she will take the case. So no upfront money needs to be spent by the client.

 

Not admiralty/maritime lawyers.

[Expat Cruise]

Not admiralty/maritime lawyers.

 

Really Admiralty / Maritime Lawyers do not work on contingency fee bases.... So when you Google " Miami Cruise Law Lawyers" and the first five all say: No Recovery No Fee‎ are they lying? Sorry they work personal injury cases the same on land or the high seas..... only the rules, laws and courts are different. But all good lawyers in this field will take the case based upon contingency if they believe the case is good. And the ones that will not are not worth engaging.

[CapeGal]

Thy're called "SLIPpers" for a reason, ya know. Truth in advertising. :)

 

 

 

What kind of slippers does Royal hand out???? And that you can ould wear off the ship???

 

 

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[nascarcruiser]

What kind of slippers does Royal hand out???? And that you can ould wear off the ship???

 

 

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I think the OP was referring to the flip flops given out to wear after a pedicure if you didn't wear your own

[CapeGal]

Let's see, you noticed the slippers were slick and wore them to a wet deck.

 

The cruise line gave you a bottle of wine and a discount on your next cruise (which was not disclosed up front).

 

So they DID offer compensation, which you accepted.

 

And now you want MORE?

 

And you are upset about the comments?

 

Life hurts. Grow up.

 

 

 

You didn’t know where the elevator was? That’s negligence on your part. That’s something you should know on day one of your cruise. Second you “managed” 2 treks with poles AFTER your injury? Wouldn’t that have aggravated your pain and discomfort?

 

 

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[CapeGal]

I think the OP was referring to the flip flops given out to wear after a pedicure if you didn't wear your own

 

 

 

Thanks. I read on.[emoji45]

 

 

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[Zu~]

You didn’t know where the elevator was? That’s negligence on your part. That’s something you should know on day one of your cruise. Second you “managed” 2 treks with poles AFTER your injury? Wouldn’t that have aggravated your pain and discomfort?

 

 

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I slipped on the second day of the cruise missing three ports in the next days. My kneee was the size of a pumpkin and with the rest and ice and elevation. I was able to go on a couple tours, but was very painful. I went on the 16day TA to see Iceland and even hurting, I loved it. People were very kind and patient with me. Yes, it aggravated my injury, however, due to my age I don't think I'll be going back. I wasn't ON treks I had two trek poles so I wouldn't hurt myself again.And a load of Advil onboard.

My point now is that the first gal should have directed me to the elevators that are behind a wooden door. I am not stupid, but was pretty darn jetted lagged too coming in from Seattle the night before the cruise.

I've only cruised on RCI about 30+ times so this is my first accident. I only asked for information, not judgement. I sincerely hope that you don't fall and hurt yourself and have people accuse you of being greedy and stupid for asking a simle question. I'm not suing anyone or looking for a free cruise. So bite me you uncaring person.

[Zu~]

You didn’t know where the elevator was? That’s negligence on your part. That’s something you should know on day one of your cruise. Second you “managed” 2 treks with poles AFTER your injury? Wouldn’t that have aggravated your pain and discomfort?

 

 

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CapeGal I hope to never run into you on any of my future cruises.

[Zu~]

Plus she admitted that she did manage a few tours after her fall with her trekking poles, even though it still hurt. If it was that bad she could have cancelled them and been refunded. Going on them most likely contributed to further wear to her injury.

 

We have also all seen the “slippery” signs by the pool and many of us have most likely took a little slide by the pool over the years. I have, as well as the other 2 in my house.

 

Where I live you can see older people who use trekking poles around the community. They are given to said individuals who need help with mobility and stability issues. My mom has them and is to use them when doing brisk walks to help with balance. I wonder did the OP need them for balance or was she going going on a “strenuous” shore excursion. I also saw them in Alaska with some select people going on actual hikes.

 

Any fall will hurt. If it was that bad medical would have taken xrays and treated for the OP for free, and she never mentioned that. It might be the only time the OP makes it to Halifax and she didnn’t wanted to miss anything she booked. I suspect the injury was further inflamed/damaged from further movement when rest is what it needed.

I was treated by medical for free and they moved my kneecap back into place. I am not suing, I had trekking poles with me for balance on tours, didn't know that I would need them on deck. I'll see my own Dr. pay my own bills and remain Loyal to Royal. I am a 70 year old adult, not trying to "game" the system.

[Zu~]

Contributory negligence does not mean you get nothing. It reduces the damages by the amount of your contribution, as a percentage. So if the judge finds you contributed 30% to the situation by being double parked (for example) then you lose 30% of the awarded damages. Because the person who hit you still had to take care.

These are the kind of answers I wanted. I wish I had had my own slippers, but going on a TA I didn't think I'd need them. I don't want to sue anyone, but I think the people in the spa should guide you to the elevators, like the other spa person said she always does. Everyone was very kind to me and I'm lucky I didn't break my face or nose to boot.

So to those of you that gave me straight answers Thank you very much.

[A&L_Ont]

I was treated by medical for free and they moved my kneecap back into place. I am not suing, I had trekking poles with me for balance on tours, didn't know that I would need them on deck. I'll see my own Dr. pay my own bills and remain Loyal to Royal. I am a 70 year old adult, not trying to "game" the system.

 

You are cut from good and strong cloth. My mom uses her treking poles as needed as well. Royal should have credited you excursions and regretfully that knee could/should have rested. That being said kudos for heading out even with the pain. Hopefully it has gone down and doesn’t constantly linger.

 

I’m not sure why I thought you were in Halifax. The injury aside, I bet Iceland was amazing.

[Zu~]

Plus she admitted that she did manage a few tours after her fall with her trekking poles, even though it still hurt. If it was that bad she could have cancelled them and been refunded. Going on them most likely contributed to further wear to her injury.

 

We have also all seen the “slippery” signs by the pool and many of us have most likely took a little slide by the pool over the years. I have, as well as the other 2 in my house.

 

Where I live you can see older people who use trekking poles around the community. They are given to said individuals who need help with mobility and stability issues. My mom has them and is to use them when doing brisk walks to help with balance. I wonder did the OP need them for balance or was she going going on a “strenuous” shore excursion. I also saw them in Alaska with some select people going on actual hikes.

 

Any fall will hurt. If it was that bad medical would have taken xrays and treated for the OP for free, and she never mentioned that. It might be the only time the OP makes it to Halifax and she didnn’t wanted to miss anything she booked. I suspect the injury was further inflamed/damaged from further movement when rest is what it needed.

I explained that I missed three ports due to the injury, Ice rest and elevation, after x-rays on board. 16 days out of Copenhagen, so I could see Iceland. I missed Skagan, Stavanger and Lerwick. But made it out for a nice bus tour in our first stop in Iceland, then went to real hospital in Reykjavik and the next day made another bus tour the day after and did the Golden Circle. I am satisfied with my small compensation and the beautiful scenery.

[Zu~]

You are cut from good and strong cloth. My mom uses her treking poles as needed as well. Royal should have credited you excursions and regretfully that knee could/should have rested. That being said kudos for heading out even with the pain. Hopefully it has gone down and doesn’t constantly linger.

 

I’m not sure why I thought you were in Halifax. The injury aside, I bet Iceland was amazing.

I did a tour in Halifax, but after about a week on board pampering my knee, I ventured out. I am much better now and will see my Dr. as soon as I can to make sure i don't have any lingering damage. Thank you for your kind comments. Good on your Mom for using her poles! I was on a 16 night Copenhagen to Boston TA, just got home yesterday.

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[Zu~]

Plus she admitted that she did manage a few tours after her fall with her trekking poles, even though it still hurt. If it was that bad she could have cancelled them and been refunded. Going on them most likely contributed to further wear to her injury.

 

We have also all seen the “slippery” signs by the pool and many of us have most likely took a little slide by the pool over the years. I have, as well as the other 2 in my house.

 

Where I live you can see older people who use trekking poles around the community. They are given to said individuals who need help with mobility and stability issues. My mom has them and is to use them when doing brisk walks to help with balance. I wonder did the OP need them for balance or was she going going on a “strenuous” shore excursion. I also saw them in Alaska with some select people going on actual hikes.

 

Any fall will hurt. If it was that bad medical would have taken xrays and treated for the OP for free, and she never mentioned that. It might be the only time the OP makes it to Halifax and she didnn’t wanted to miss anything she booked. I suspect the injury was further inflamed/damaged from further movement when rest is what it needed.

Read my other posts before passing judgement. Medical did take x-rays my firstl post was just to ask a simple question. It was a 16 night TA from Copenhagen to Boston. First day the slip and fall happened so the next three ports were missed due to injury, Skagan, Stavanger and Lerwick. I finally could get off the ship with help in our first stop in Iceland and take a nice bus tour. Even with trekking poles couldn't get up to see the top of the falls, just the bottom part which was beautiful. The scenery was fabulous. Next stop went to a real hospital for real x-rays (by the way I was put in isolation because I'd had surgery in the last six months in the US-just on a finger, but since they don't have MERSA in Iceland were being cautious) x-rays showed nothing broken :-) I am not suing anyone, just had a question and now a suggestion about the slippery slipping slippers.