Aus Traveller Posted April 4, 2020 #101 Share Posted April 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, SeaDog-46 said: Initially yes but warm lay-up can turn into cold lay-up. Yes. In the end, sending a couple of ships to the scrap yard is possible, but I can't see a sale being possible. Which cruise line would buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted April 4, 2020 #102 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, Aus Traveller said: Yes. In the end, sending a couple of ships to the scrap yard is possible, but I can't see a sale being possible. Which cruise line would buy? Cruise & Maritime Voyages' (CMV) They buy the junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackduck59 Posted April 4, 2020 #103 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Aus Traveller said: Yes. In the end, sending a couple of ships to the scrap yard is possible, but I can't see a sale being possible. Which cruise line would buy? I could see Celebrity letting the Millennium class ships that haven't been "Revolutionized" go. Also Celebrity stopping the "Revolution" refits on the solstice ships that have not been done. Refurbish what they have, re-purpose cellar masters and remodel Micheal's club into the "Retreat" but I wonder about the Gigantic suite they had planned to carve out of the Sky lounge. Some of the Princess ships will go to P&O and the P&O ships will be paid off. Some new builds will be cancelled and existing hulls not yet completed will be slowed as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted April 4, 2020 #104 Share Posted April 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, NSWP said: Cruise & Maritime Voyages' (CMV) They buy the junk. If they survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Kruzer Posted April 4, 2020 #105 Share Posted April 4, 2020 When Renaissance Cruises went belly up ,all their R Ships were laid up for over 12 months . I remember cruising out of Papeete and looking over to the 2 ships that became Pacific and Tahitian Princess tied up side by side on the other side of the port . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted April 4, 2020 #106 Share Posted April 4, 2020 17 minutes ago, Blackduck59 said: I could see Celebrity letting the Millennium class ships that haven't been "Revolutionized" go. Also Celebrity stopping the "Revolution" refits on the solstice ships that have not been done. Refurbish what they have, re-purpose cellar masters and remodel Micheal's club into the "Retreat" but I wonder about the Gigantic suite they had planned to carve out of the Sky lounge. Some of the Princess ships will go to P&O and the P&O ships will be paid off. Some new builds will be cancelled and existing hulls not yet completed will be slowed as much as possible. That sounds logical. I sincerely hope several of the major cruise lines survive. It would make sense if they reduced their fleet by scrapping (or Princess passing on to P&O) the oldest ships that were going to meet that end in the next few years anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted April 4, 2020 Author #107 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, NSWP said: Cruise & Maritime Voyages' (CMV) They buy the junk. Not just the junk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted April 4, 2020 Author #108 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Most refits and dry docks would be scaled right back as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VK3DQ Posted April 4, 2020 #109 Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 hours ago, MicCanberra said: Most refits and dry docks would be scaled right back as well. Hi Mic Well no one is going to want to linger in a far east yard are they ?? Even worse the Italian yards are not a good idea so where are we going to see 3 or 4 large ships laid up for a couple of years Genoa ???? where they first docked the costa concordia would hold a few ships Regards John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norlor32 Posted April 4, 2020 #110 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) Has anyone else seen this post? "...Consider that just today (Wednesday, April 1st), RCI announced that they were cancelling all RCI, Celebrity and Azamara cruises through Sept 1..!" Do you think they were referring to the "Cruise With Confidence" policy being extended to September 1st? Edited April 4, 2020 by norlor32 Wrong date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted April 4, 2020 Author #111 Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 hours ago, norlor32 said: Has anyone else seen this post? "...Consider that just today (Wednesday, April 1st), RCI announced that they were cancelling all RCI, Celebrity and Azamara cruises through Sept 1..!" Do you think they were referring to the "Cruise With Confidence" policy being extended to September 1st? welcome to cruise critic, That is certainly something to ponder but on April 2nd they said cruises in Australia are off until 15 June, so perhaps not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted April 4, 2020 #112 Share Posted April 4, 2020 7 hours ago, norlor32 said: Has anyone else seen this post? "...Consider that just today (Wednesday, April 1st), RCI announced that they were cancelling all RCI, Celebrity and Azamara cruises through Sept 1..!" Do you think they were referring to the "Cruise With Confidence" policy being extended to September 1st? I question the authenticity of that announcement that you mention comes from RCI. It is dated April 1st. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted April 5, 2020 #113 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Aus Traveller said: I question the authenticity of that announcement that you mention comes from RCI. It is dated April 1st. 😁 I suppose a perusal of their website would confirm it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted April 5, 2020 #114 Share Posted April 5, 2020 I haven't seen the post but suspect they misread something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted April 5, 2020 #115 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Zaandam is due for an update in dry dock in a few days followed by Rotterdam. Bermuda I think. Will be interesting to see if that goes ahead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackduck59 Posted April 5, 2020 #116 Share Posted April 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, lyndarra said: Zaandam is due for an update in dry dock in a few days followed by Rotterdam. Bermuda I think. Will be interesting to see if that goes ahead. I used to work for a company that was heavily involved in these quick turn around refresh refits. All the millwork components were fabricated here on the west coast of Canada, loaded in containers and shipped to the Bahamas. We would send a mixed crew from our shop as well as other trades and send them to Bermuda for a couple of weeks and the thrash was on and get the ship back in service. I never worked on the ships but did work on the components in our shop. I left that job quite some time ago and have lost touch with them. If those refits are going ahead then that shop is probably involved. We also did work on Holland America ships here in Victoria (we have a rather substantial dry dock here). There was a Disney ship and Noordam here last fall after the Alaska season ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted April 5, 2020 #117 Share Posted April 5, 2020 53 minutes ago, NSWP said: I suppose a perusal of their website would confirm it or not. Royal Caribbean plan to resume cruising on 12th May. They are even more optimistic than I am. 😁 That is why I said the suggestion that they have stopped cruising until 1st September is an April Fool's Joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted April 5, 2020 #118 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Aus Traveller said: Royal Caribbean plan to resume cruising on 12th May. They are even more optimistic than I am. 😁 That is why I said the suggestion that they have stopped cruising until 1st September is an April Fool's Joke. Only a week ago they only planned to suspend until April 11... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted April 5, 2020 Author #119 Share Posted April 5, 2020 In Australia they are off until 15 June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted April 29, 2020 Author #120 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Cunard have announced they are suspended all cruises until 31 July 2020 now. Queen Elisabeth until 8 September 2020, the entire Alaskan season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted April 29, 2020 #121 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Not unexpected though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted April 29, 2020 Author #122 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Certainly not, I wish they (the cruise companies) would just face facts that not country is going to allow cruising until at least September(more like December) and just cancel their cruises until then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Big_M Posted April 29, 2020 #123 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Nobody wants to be out of business more than they have to. And cruiselines have borne the brunt more than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted May 6, 2020 Author #124 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Princess have come out with the latest cancellations All Remaining Alaska, Canada & New England and Europe Cruises and Cruisetours in 2020 All Remaining Australian and Caribbean Cruises through August, Japan Cruises through October 1 and Taiwan Cruises in July All Fall 2020 Tahiti & French Polynesia Cruises on Pacific Princess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizziecruzer Posted May 6, 2020 #125 Share Posted May 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: Princess have come out with the latest cancellations All Remaining Alaska, Canada & New England and Europe Cruises and Cruisetours in 2020 All Remaining Australian and Caribbean Cruises through August, Japan Cruises through October 1 and Taiwan Cruises in July All Fall 2020 Tahiti & French Polynesia Cruises on Pacific Princess Here's the link https://www.princess.com/plan/impacted-and-cancelled-cruises/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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