CDC open to USA cruise return this summer

[rodndonna]

Found this on CCL. A little more optimism ...😄

 

[NavyCruiser]

Great push to get CDC to allow cruising from US ports...

[harkinmr]

1 hour ago, NavyCruiser said:

Great push to get CDC to allow cruising from US ports...

Yes, but really no change from the CDC update from last week Friday.  The cruise lines still need to meet the 4-phase CSO requirements.  If they can do that by mid-summer then the CDC is good with that goal.  I think the ball is back in the cruise lines' court.

 

“CDC is committed to working with the cruise industry and seaport partners to resume cruising following the phased approach outlined in the conditional sailing order,” CDC spokeswoman Jade Fulce said in a response to questions about Carnival. “This goal aligns with the desire to resume passenger operations in the United States expressed by many major cruise ship operators and travelers; hopefully, by mid-summer with restricted revenue sailings.”

[NavyCruiser]

We've pretty much gave up on cruising from US ports this year.

Our next HAL cruise is out of Amsterdam to Norway late this year, maybe that cruise will go...

[jhsocal]

Do you think this is the final criteria imposed by the CDC or will there be other modifications?

[nocl]

Basically CDC is saying that if the cruise lines cooperated and started to implement the process thay could be sailing by summer.  The cruise lines are basically saying drop the order entirely.

 

Doesn't seem to really be any movement.

[HappyInVan]

2 hours ago, nocl said:

Doesn't seem to really be any movement.

 

Well, one thing has changed. CCL has made a threat. They'll have to relocate some ships if CDC doesn't bend. Is there any incentive for the Administration or the CDC to compromise?

 

What is there to compromise? The cruise companies have already said that the cruises will require vax. Are they hoping to forego the mask mandate?

 

The question is the size of the relocation? Which brands will be affected? IMO, a large relocation would surrender an important market to competitors.

 

Why hasn't NCL and RCL joined CCL?

 

 

[nocl]

1 hour ago, HappyInVan said:

 

Well, one thing has changed. CCL has made a threat. They'll have to relocate some ships if CDC doesn't bend. Is there any incentive for the Administration or the CDC to compromise?

 

What is there to compromise? The cruise companies have already said that the cruises will require vax. Are they hoping to forego the mask mandate?

 

The question is the size of the relocation? Which brands will be affected? IMO, a large relocation would surrender an important market to competitors.

 

Why hasn't NCL and RCL joined CCL?

 

 

NCL and RCL are a head of CCL in setting up cruises from Caribbean ports.

 

I suspect that the cruise lines main objection is the CDC oversight. so they would actually have to properly implement whatever they commit to and could not change without CDC approval.

 

Thus their request to drop the order, not to modify the requirements.

[mcrcruiser]

13 hours ago, nocl said:

NCL and RCL are a head of CCL in setting up cruises from Caribbean ports.

 

I suspect that the cruise lines main objection is the CDC oversight. so they would actually have to properly implement whatever they commit to and could not change without CDC approval.

 

Thus their request to drop the order, not to modify the requirements.

Now what about the west coast ports  .The cruise lines could port  ships in  Mazatlan ,Puerto Vallarta ,Acapulco    .These are 3 deep sea Mexican ports  .They could even use  Ensenada & bus people from the San diego airport across the Mexican border ,a 4 to  5 hour trip 

[Boatdrill]

3 hours ago, mcrcruiser said:

Now what about the west coast ports  .The cruise lines could port  ships in  Mazatlan ,Puerto Vallarta ,Acapulco    .These are 3 deep sea Mexican ports  .They could even use  Ensenada & bus people from the San diego airport across the Mexican border ,a 4 to  5 hour trip 

Best  to fly to PV and embark/debark there. 

The problem(s) with Ensenada include having to send the cruise line's shore operations team ahead of embarking passengers, if check-in would not be done in the San Diego cruise ship terminal, as in years past. The check-in staff would then require a night time bus ride back to the US. The cost of shipping passengers by chartered buses to/from Ensenada is expensive.  Each bus holds about 40 people. For 1800 pax, that's 45 buses, making a round trip (drop off in Ensenada, and coming back empty).  Luggage is transferred by trucks (not the buses) from the pre-cruise hotel in San Diego or the airport, to the Ensenada cruise ship terminal.  It's a very long, risky  day for everyone, and JMHO, should be avoided at all costs. 

Edited April 8, 2021 by Boatdrill

[ontheweb]

3 hours ago, Boatdrill said:

Best  to fly to PV and embark/debark there. 

The problem(s) with Ensenada include having to send the cruise line's shore operations team ahead of embarking passengers, if check-in would not be done in the San Diego cruise ship terminal, as in years past. The check-in staff would then require a night time bus ride back to the US. The cost of shipping passengers by chartered buses to/from Ensenada is expensive.  Each bus holds about 40 people. For 1800 pax, that's 45 buses, making a round trip (drop off in Ensenada, and coming back empty).  Luggage is transferred by trucks (not the buses) from the pre-cruise hotel in San Diego or the airport, to the Ensenada cruise ship terminal.  It's a very long, risky  day for everyone, and JMHO, should be avoided at all costs. 

And if social distancing is required, double the number of buses needed.