Holland America Line pop quiz

[Copper10-8]

24 minutes ago, Alphen said:

Location of the Bow Thrusters.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Alphen said:

Bulbous Bow, but the actual painting is on the sign of the Bow Thrusters 😉

 

 

Nice job! Bow thrusters are used to "push" the bow to port or starboard by utilizing "variable pitch" propellers driven by electronic motors mounted above them. Same goes for stern thrusters on ships that are not equipped with the Azipod system 

[Copper10-8]

This individual has been godmother to multiple dam ships. Who has been godmother to the most HAL ships so far? 

 

 

[rkacruiser]

Queen Beatrix 

[Copper10-8]

3 minutes ago, rkacruiser said:

Queen Beatrix 

 

Good choice, but No

 

HRH Princess / Queen Beatrix has been godmother to:

 

Statendam IV (1957-1981)

Prinses Margriet (1964-1970)

Eurodam (2008-current)

 

Having said that, there is someone else who has been godmother to more HAL ships than Princess / Queen Beatrix 

 

[rkacruiser]

Princess Margriet?  

[Copper10-8]

23 minutes ago, rkacruiser said:

Princess Margriet?  

 

 

Yes Winner! HRH Princess Margriet of the Netherlands, one of three younger sisters to former Queen Beatrix, has been godmother to four HAL ships, soon to be five when she names Rotterdam VII (2021-current) in Rotterdam in May. She has been godmother to:

 

Prinsendam I (1973-1980)

Nieuw Amsterdam III (1983-2000)

Rotterdam VI (1997-2020)

Oosterdam (2003-current)  

[rkacruiser]

Very fitting, I think, that she will be Godmother for Rotterdam VII since she was Godmother for Rotterdam VI.  

 

I suppose my prize "will be in the mail".  😁

 

John, I never did find the pins that you were looking for a couple of years ago.  Maybe none were made?  

[ShipsAreTheBest]

On 3/23/2022 at 1:07 PM, Copper10-8 said:

 

In 1973 and 1974 the entire HAL fleet at the time (Rotterdam V, Statendam IV, Prinsendam I, Volendam II and Veendam III) went from being registered in Rotterdam, the Netherlands to a registration to Willemstad, Curacao in the then Netherlands Antilles. The reason? Curacao taxed according to a ship's tonnage; the Netherlands' progressive tax system  taxed on the profit made by a ship 

 

When Veendam and Volendam did their stint with Monarch Cruise Lines in the mid to late 70s, they were flagged in Panama, and remained Panamanian flagged even after returning to HAL until 1981 or 1982 (can’t remember) when they returned to the Netherlands Antilles (specifically Curaçao).  I know when Volendam was cruising to Bermuda out of NY in 1978, 1979, and 1980, it was under the Panamanian flag.

Also, the N sisters of the early 80s (Nieuw Amsterdam and Noordam) were registered in St. Maarten rather than Curaçao (still flying the Dutch flag of course)

Edited March 27, 2022 by ShipsAreTheBest

[rkacruiser]

Once Holland America Line morphed to Holland America Cruises in the early 1970's and then back again to HAL, the re-flagging of the vessels almost became an Abbott/Costello routine of "Who's On First".  Done for corporate and, I have little doubt, financial reasons.  But, what was not affected was the HAL onboard experience.  

[Copper10-8]

5 hours ago, ShipsAreTheBest said:

When Veendam and Volendam did their stint with Monarch Cruise Lines in the mid to late 70s, they were flagged in Panama, and remained Panamanian flagged even after returning to HAL until 1981 or 1982 (can’t remember) when they returned to the Netherlands Antilles (specifically Curaçao).  I know when Volendam was cruising to Bermuda out of NY in 1978, 1979, and 1980, it was under the Panamanian flag.

Also, the N sisters of the early 80s (Nieuw Amsterdam and Noordam) were registered in St. Maarten rather than Curaçao (still flying the Dutch flag of course)

 

 

Thanks for that! Did some more research and you are correct as to the registration of those three ships! 

[Sir PMP]

16 hours ago, Copper10-8 said:

 

 

Yes Winner! HRH Princess Margriet of the Netherlands, one of three younger sisters to former Queen Beatrix, has been godmother to four HAL ships, soon to be five when she names Rotterdam VII (2021-current) in Rotterdam in May. She has been godmother to:

 

Prinsendam I (1973-1980)

Nieuw Amsterdam III (1983-2000)

Rotterdam VI (1997-2020)

Oosterdam (2003-current)  

Behind her, captain Kees Buckens.

[Copper10-8]

1 hour ago, Sir PMP said:

Behind her, captain Kees Buckens.

 

Close 😉 but Rotterdam's take-out captain was Captain Jacob Dijk

[Sir PMP]

2 hours ago, Copper10-8 said:

 

Close 😉 but Rotterdam's take-out captain was Captain Jacob Dijk

But behind Margriet stands Captain Buckens, sailed with him many times on the Ms Rotterdam.

[Sir PMP]

3 minutes ago, Sir PMP said:

But behind Margriet stands Captain Buckens, sailed with him many times on the Ms Rotterdam.

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[Sir PMP]

What is this?

[St Pete Cruiser]

2 hours ago, Sir PMP said:

What is this?

Rotterdam V, Ocean Bar?

[Sir PMP]

13 minutes ago, St Pete Cruiser said:

Rotterdam V, Ocean Bar?

Close, it's the bar behind the dance floor of the ambassador's lounge.

[Copper10-8]

1 hour ago, Sir PMP said:

But behind Margriet stands Captain Buckens, sailed with him many times on the Ms Rotterdam.

 

 

Yes, that is Captain Kees Buckens; good eye! 😉 Rotterdam VI was named by Margriet on December 9, 1997 in Ft. Lauderdale when Kees Buckens had taken over command of her, the ship, not the princess. We sailed with him on Volendam in April 2001. After leaving HAL in 2001, he has been/still is teaching at the New Zealand Maritime School in Auckland. Pretty sure his spouse is  Kiwi 

[Copper10-8]

In 1969, HAL came up with a new idea in dining on Rotterdam V in place of the Cafe de la Paix. That public space was improved upon during the ship's 1989 dry-dock in Portland, OR. The original idea is now a proven concept. What is the name?  

[1ANGELCAT]

8 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said:

In 1969, HAL came up with a new idea in dining on Rotterdam V in place of the Cafe de la Paix. That public space was improved upon during the ship's 1989 dry-dock in Portland, OR. The original idea is now a proven concept. What is the name?  

The Lido

[rkacruiser]

44 minutes ago, 1ANGELCAT said:

The Lido

 

I think you are correct.  

[Copper10-8]

1 hour ago, 1ANGELCAT said:

The Lido

 

Winner! Nice job! The first Lido Restaurant appeared on Rotterdam V in 1969, was improved upon in 1989 and, as Lido Market, has been an established buffet restaurant for some time!

[Copper10-8]

We talked about the "Commodore flag" that gave the senior captain in the fleet, aka the commodore, the right to fly his flag at the stern of his ship. The commodore rank is no longer being used by HAL.

 

Having said that, there is another flag that certain captains are allowed to fly at the stern of the ship they're in command of, instead of the Dutch national colors. The last two captains, since retired, who could do so were Captains Pieter Jan van Maurik and Pieter Visser. What is that flag? 

[Alphen]

11 minutes ago, Copper10-8 said:

We talked about the "Commodore flag" that gave the senior captain in the fleet, aka the commodore, the right to fly his flag at the stern of his ship. The commodore rank is no longer being used by HAL.

 

Having said that, there is another flag that certain captains are allowed to fly at the stern of the ship they're in command of, instead of the Dutch national colors. The last two captains, since retired, who could do so were Captains Pieter Jan van Maurik and Pieter Visser. What is that flag? 

The Dutch flag with an anchor centred, meaning that the commanding officer is a Dutch Navy Reserve Officer, commanding a non navy vessel.

 

Down here a picture from the actual flag from Captain P.J. on Zaandam, on our Antarctica cruise in 2015.

 

Edited March 29, 2022 by Alphen

[Copper10-8]

The HAL godmothers, and one godfather, as it appears 😉 

 

Current ships:

 

ms Volendam - Chris Everett, tennis star
ms Zaandam - Ashley & Mary Kate Olsen, actresses

ms Zuiderdam - Joan Lunden, broadcaster/TV anchor
ms Oosterdam – HRH Princess Margriet of the Netherlands
ms Westerdam - Renee Soutendijk, Dutch actress
ms Noordam - Marlee Matlin, actress
ms Eurodam – HRH Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands

ms Nieuw Amsterdam – HRH Queen Maxima of the Netherlands

ms Koningsdam – HRH Queen Maxima of the Netherlands

ms Nieuw Statendam – Oprah Winfrey, media mogul, producer, actress and philanthropist

ms Rotterdam VII – HRH Princess Margriet of the Netherlands

 

Former ships:

 

ss Rotterdam I – the spouse of her first master, Captain Hus

ss Maasdam I – the spouse of her first master, Captain Heddes

ss Statendam III – HRH Prince Hendrik of the Netherlands

ms Nieuw Amsterdam II – HRH Queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands

ms Statendam IV – HRH Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands

ms Rotterdam V – HRH Queen Juliana of the Netherlands

ss Prinses Margriet -  HRH Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands

ms Prinsendam I – HRH Princess Margriet of the Netherlands

ms Westerdam II – Clara van der Vorm, wife of former HAL Chairman Nico van der Vorm

ms Nieuw Amsterdam III – HRH Princess Margriet of the Netherlands

ms Noordam III – Beatrijs van der Vorm-van den Wall Bake, daughter of former HAL Chairman Nico van der Vorm

ms Statendam V - Lin Arison, wife of Ted Arison, founder of Carnival

ms Ryndam III - Madeleine Arison, wife of Micky Arison, CEO of Carnival

ms Maasdam V - June Allyson, actress
ms Veendam IV - Debbie Reynolds, actress
ms Rotterdam VI – HRH Princess Margriet of the Netherlands

ms Amsterdam III - Janet Lanterman, wife of former HAL CEO
ms Prinsendam II - All employees of HAL represented by Rose Abello, vice president - public relations, Eva Andresen, vice president - information technologies, and Linda Ehlenberger, vice president - sales

 

Sorry, the ones of Debbie Reynolds and Janet Lanterman were not cooperating 

Edited March 29, 2022 by Copper10-8