Does anyone know the current Canadian Rules if you test positive at disembarkation?

[Whinenowine]

We're on the Millie Southbound cruise later this month and were wondering what happens if you test positive towards the end of the cruise. X's docs seem to be generic and say we can chose to stay aboard or disembark, but nowhere does it say what Canada's current rules are.  So if we're still testing positive (1) will Canada let us in, and (2) will there be any quarantine requirements while in Vancouver?

 

Apologies if this has already been asked, I searched but couldn't find an answer.

[RichYak]

https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/cruise#symptoms

[Ferry_Watcher]

If you tested positive coming off a ship in Seattle, you would be going to a hotel for 5 days (unless you were a local resident and could either drive yourself home, or lived close enough to be driven home).  The one place that you would not be going is to the airport.  

[Whinenowine]

54 minutes ago, RichYak said:

https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/cruise#symptoms

Thanks @RichYak!

[lexmiller]

To be clear, you are only testing positive on board if you self-report.  It's in your hands.

[Fly and Sail]

2 hours ago, lexmiller said:

To be clear, you are only testing positive on board if you self-report.  It's in your hands.

 

Exactly. In other words: Ignore it.

[Denny01]

Yes, and spread COVID throughout the taxi-shuttle, airport, airplane……

 

den

[Gia2cats]

Ok, here’s another perspective. My husband tested positive at the end of a land tour and before we boarded the ship in Anchorage. He had no symptoms.The Celebrity Rep gave us several choices. First was to quarantine in a hotel in Anchorage for a 5 days. Second choice, which the rep says 99% of people choose, is to get on a plane and fly home. I expressed surprise at that and he stated that my husband wasn’t wearing an ankle bracelet. He then booked our flights home for us.

So if you think people quarantine traveling domestically, that is rare. My thought was, if we stay in a hotel, we should both be isolated due to my exposure to him. Who was going to get us meals or anything else we need. We did spend one night In a hotel there. 
There is what should happen and what does happen. If I was immune compromised in any way, I would not travel.

Edited August 7, 2022 by Gia2cats

[mom says]

It amazes me- the excuses some people will espouse in rationalizing how to "get around" entry rules and regulations, and  travelling on public transportation while infectious. Sorry, not sorry, but deliberately and knowingly exposing others to Covid is wrong, both morally and ethically. I don't care how you couch it. 

[Gia2cats]

14 minutes ago, mom says said:

It amazes me- the excuses some people will espouse in rationalizing how to "get around" entry rules and regulations, and  travelling on public transportation while infectious. Sorry, not sorry, but deliberately and knowingly exposing others to Covid is wrong, both morally and ethically. I don't care how you couch it. 

I developed symptoms the day after my husband. I tested negative for the next 7 days!  And finally tested

Positive for 4 days only. These tests are a joke.Technically, I did not have COVID. And people say you infect the taxi drivers, etc. Please tell me how you get to the hotel without public transportation . You check In to the hotel and infect the people who check you in and the cleaning people. And no one can tell me how you are fed without going to a restaurant. I’m not justifying anything. I’m telling you reality. We didn’t knowingly infect anyone. We flew first class, wore N95 and practiced social distancing. We are 72 and 74 and didn’t even take Paxlovid since we had mild colds! 
We have to learn to live with this! It’s not going away. And you have NO idea what you will do until it happens to you 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Gia2cats

[Gia2cats]

23 minutes ago, mom says said:

It amazes me- the excuses some people will espouse in rationalizing how to "get around" entry rules and regulations, and  travelling on public transportation while infectious. Sorry, not sorry, but deliberately and knowingly exposing others to Covid is wrong, both morally and ethically. I don't care how you couch it. 

But you have no problem with Celebrity, putting people on flights home? 

[Gia2cats]

7 hours ago, Ferry_Watcher said:

If you tested positive coming off a ship in Seattle, you would be going to a hotel for 5 days (unless you were a local resident and could either drive yourself home, or lived close enough to be driven home).  The one place that you would not be going is to the airport.  

Actually, Celebrity will book the flights home for you. Once you leave that ship, there is no one to police you. There is no one who will take care of you once you leave that ship. There are no quarantine hotels that you go to. 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Gia2cats

[lexmiller]

32 minutes ago, Gia2cats said:

Actually, Celebrity will book the flights home for you. Once you leave that ship, there is no one to police you. There is no one who will take care of you once you leave that ship. There are no quarantine hotels that you go to. 

Exactly.  Because the world has moved on.  Cruise lines do not want you to self report.  I have written about this quite a bit - the covid of 2022 is not the covid of 2020.  All anyone needs to do to realize that is look around - look everywhere except these boards where fear is still strong.  If one is immunocompromised, then that person is not on a cruise, nor are they in a grocery store, going to church, on an airplane, etc.  Cruisers now are bringing their at home tests on board and if they feel something coming on, testing in their cabins privately and if positive, then hopefully doing the responsible thing by donning a mask and staying distant - because that is what you would do with any virus, you would never knowingly infect someone.  But here's the thing -  you are most contagious with covid BEFORE you have any symptoms.  So indeed, this all has to stop.  Time to take responsibility for your own actions - for your health, for your illness - OWN IT, and let's get on with life.

[Denny01]

So someone who would know they have COVID and not report it, hide it and continue to be in public would be ‘responsible’ and wear a mask….. right. 

 

And yes, you are contagious prior to any COVID symptoms, but you are contagious during and after and That is why the actual Drs and medial experts set 5 days after symptoms. 

 

Enough. We’ve all read the excuses. You’ll either help lower the risk to All or increase the risk to All.  

 

Den

[Gia2cats]

39 minutes ago, Denny01 said:

So someone who would know they have COVID and not report it, hide it and continue to be in public would be ‘responsible’ and wear a mask….. right. 

 

And yes, you are contagious prior to any COVID symptoms, but you are contagious during and after and That is why the actual Drs and medial experts set 5 days after symptoms. 

 

Enough. We’ve all read the excuses. You’ll either help lower the risk to All or increase the risk to All.  

 

Den

I agree…enough. The tests will be going away soon and then no one will know anyone’s status. It’s already gone on some cruise lines. But I’m still waiting for someone to tell me how to spend up to 10 days in a hotel room with no access to food, or how to get to the hotel without exposing anyone. Some “experts” say 5 days of quarantine, others say 10……Canada for one. Can we pick the expert we want to listen to?

I’m not offering any excuses. Take it up with Celebrity. 

Edited August 7, 2022 by Gia2cats

[Ferry_Watcher]

2 hours ago, Gia2cats said:

Actually, Celebrity will book the flights home for you. Once you leave that ship, there is no one to police you. There is no one who will take care of you once you leave that ship. There are no quarantine hotels that you go to. 

In Seattle, if you come off a Royal or Celebrity ship having been diagnosed with Covid, and you don't live locally, you are taken to a quarantine hotel.  There is a dedicated mobilization team that works with the passengers.  Covid positive passengers are escorted off the ship once all the other passengers are off.  At the back of the terminal building there are waiting SUV's and Sprinter vans to take Covid positive passengers to a couple of hotels.  Pier side staff are instructed to remain inside the terminal until the Covid positive passengers have exited the terminal balcony and the maintenance staff has sanitized the balcony deck.

I can't speak to what happens at other ports, but this is what happens in Seattle.

[Gia2cats]

1 minute ago, Ferry_Watcher said:

In Seattle, if you come off a Royal or Celebrity ship having been diagnosed with Covid, and you don't live locally, you are taken to a quarantine hotel.  There is a dedicated mobilization team that works with the passengers.  Covid positive passengers are escorted off the ship once all the other passengers are off.  At the back of the terminal building there are waiting SUV's and Sprinter vans to take Covid positive passengers to a couple of hotels.  Pier side staff are instructed to remain inside the terminal until the Covid positive passengers have exited the terminal balcony and the maintenance staff has sanitized the balcony deck.

I can't speak to what happens at other ports, but this is what happens in Seattle.

Strange that Anchorage would be so different. Same country, same cruise line. What you are referring to may have happened previously but that is no longer the case. You are not under arrest. We were not on the ship to be escorted off, just on the land tour.

IF this is true in Seattle though, I’m not surprised people don’t go to medical with minor cold symptoms.
 

[Ferry_Watcher]

2 minutes ago, Gia2cats said:

IF this is true in Seattle though

It is.

[Gia2cats]

8 minutes ago, Ferry_Watcher said:

In Seattle, if you come off a Royal or Celebrity ship having been diagnosed with Covid, and you don't live locally, you are taken to a quarantine hotel.  There is a dedicated mobilization team that works with the passengers.  Covid positive passengers are escorted off the ship once all the other passengers are off.  At the back of the terminal building there are waiting SUV's and Sprinter vans to take Covid positive passengers to a couple of hotels.  Pier side staff are instructed to remain inside the terminal until the Covid positive passengers have exited the terminal balcony and the maintenance staff has sanitized the balcony deck.

I can't speak to what happens at other ports, but this is what happens in Seattle.

I have a question. Are you saying that someone from Celebrity will come and check on you to make sure you are staying in quarantine for x number of days. Is there a guard stationed at your hotel room door. If so, I hope that they bring you 3 meals a day.

Edited August 8, 2022 by Gia2cats

[Ferry_Watcher]

Celebrity and the staff at the Pier's job is to transport Covid positive passengers to a designated hotel where they are expect to stay for five days.  What happens beyond that I have no knowledge.

[Ronin23]

6 hours ago, Denny01 said:

So someone who would know they have COVID and not report it, hide it and continue to be in public would be ‘responsible’ and wear a mask….. right. 

 

And yes, you are contagious prior to any COVID symptoms, but you are contagious during and after and That is why the actual Drs and medial experts set 5 days after symptoms. 

 

Enough. We’ve all read the excuses. You’ll either help lower the risk to All or increase the risk to All.  

 

Den

What’s the big deal? Many countries don’t have any restrictions and allow free movement. You can’t hide behind the thin veil of isolation and mandates forever. 

[Arizona Wildcat]

1 hour ago, Ronin23 said:

What’s the big deal? Many countries don’t have any restrictions and allow free movement. You can’t hide behind the thin veil of isolation and mandates forever. 

In Iceland there is no quarantine, virtually no testing.  Nothing.  Almost no masking. 

When we were in Canada with friends, several came down with covid.  They simply stayed home till they felt better.

[WorkerBee74]

23 hours ago, Fly and Sail said:

 

Exactly. In other words: Ignore it.

 

Unless you have symptoms.... because then you're lying on the ArriveCan app....

[WorkerBee74]

11 hours ago, Ronin23 said:

What’s the big deal? Many countries don’t have any restrictions and allow free movement. You can’t hide behind the thin veil of isolation and mandates forever. 

 

I'm sorry, but if I visited Australia, I suppose I'd have to abide by your government rules, no?  What a thing to say.... regardless of whether you agree or not, Canada has certain rules.  If you don't want to follow them, don't visit at present.  Simple as that.

Edited August 8, 2022 by WorkerBee74

[Arizona Wildcat]

Absolutely useless to debate this because it violates CC policy and who knows what Canada and other countries will do in the future.