question on tipping policy

[dmwnc1959]

1 minute ago, RocketMan275 said:

If you think that is too much, then take shorter cruises.

I didn’t say that, you did. Quit putting words in people’s mouth. I’m merely countering your broad, sweeping claim with the FACT that a “few bucks” isn’t $500 or $1000. And not everyone stays in The Haven and showers their Butlers and Concierge with hundreds of dollars. A lot of people book inside cabins, budget, can still afford to cruise, all the while not seeing the need to tip everyone that’s already been tipped, or who smiles at them or remembers their name. 
 

You have absolutely zero idea why people remove the DSC, but it’s easier for people on here to throw out the claim that those people are just being ‘cheap’ or are wanting to ‘save a few bucks’. You have zero idea what people do after they have removed the DSC, and if they have decided to tip their restaurant servers individually, tip their room steward handsomely, or tip the people that they want to tip. Sure this may still go back into a tipping pool, but to falsely accuse passengers of being cheap simply to make yourself feel better is beyond laughable.

[bkrickles1]

2 minutes ago, dmwnc1959 said:

You have absolutely zero idea why people remove the DSC, but it’s easier for people on here to throw out the claim that those people are just being ‘cheap’ or are wanting to ‘save a few bucks’. You have zero idea what people do after they have removed the DSC, and if they have decided to tip their restaurant servers individually, tip their room steward handsomely, or tip the people that they want to tip. Sure this may still go back into a tipping pool, but to falsely accuse passengers of being cheap simply to make yourself feel better is beyond laughable.

First of all, it's OSC, not DSC!

 

You continue to miss the point.

NOBODY here knows precisely where the OSC goes but, obviously, it has a much wider purpose than just additional wages to the people you interact with. So, some people or something is being shortchanged if the OSC is removed.

The people behind the scenes are, at least as important as the people you interact with in making your vacation the best it can be. 

Believe me, I understand that the OSC is a lot of $$.

I'm sailing for 10 days in April and my OSC is $600.

The reason it doesn't bother me is that I don't grind on all the individual costs and fees. I look at the all in cost and determine value compared to other options. For me, all in, NCL gives me and my family the most value for the $$$.

If I were to remove the OSC, I'd be hard pressed to hand out that much in tips to servers, bartenders or cabin stewards, so I would absolutely "save a few bucks". 

So, that would lead many on here to believe that the people that remove their OSC are a little "cheap" and inconsiderate of all the behind the scenes crew that work so hard for us. And, I'm guessing, those same people don't do a lot of tipping throughout their sailing.

I have never and would never remove the OSC and I choose to do some tipping over and above because it makes us happy to do it and there are some perceived perks.

But, I totally understand those that don't do anything extra. It's totally unnecessary and, in theory, your experience should be just as good without the extra expense.

52 Days till Getaway!!

 

[seemoreroyals]

39 minutes ago, graphicguy said:

We haven't had a good "how I expect everyone else to dress" debate in a while.

 

Speaking of which, I don't think I've seen anyone in a tux or suit on a cruise in a couple of years.

 

I did see several families on our Prima cruise this past December all dressed in matching pajamas parading around the ship.  I think that is a new thing people are starting to do on cruises.  Got to admit they looked comfortable.

[graphicguy]

27 minutes ago, seemoreroyals said:

 

I did see several families on our Prima cruise this past December all dressed in matching pajamas parading around the ship.  I think that is a new thing people are starting to do on cruises.  Got to admit they looked comfortable.

Someone posted a pic of that in a thread here.  The family looked none too happy about “dressing in PJs”.  It looked like it was the Mother’s idea.  The rest of the family looked perturbed by it.

 

I’ve never seen. it on any of my cruises.

 

My guess it will fade away as quickly as it started.

 

Personally, I don’t get it.  Makes zero sense.  It takes as much effort to get dressed as it does to throw on PJs.  But, as you say, it’s a “thing”.  And, people tend to do the latest “thing”.

 

No one can complain about shorts in the MDR any more if people are traipsing around in PJs.  I’m guessing PJs in the MDR would not be allowed…maybe only in the Garden Cafe?

 

Probably would be really silly looking at the pool loungers!

Edited February 27 by graphicguy

[seemoreroyals]

2 minutes ago, graphicguy said:

Someone posted a pic of that in a thread here.  The family looked none too happy about “dressing in PJs”.  It looked like it was the Mother’s idea.  The rest of the family looked perturbed by it.

 

I’ve never seen. it on any of my cruises.

 

My guess it will fade away as quickly as it started.

 

Personally, I don’t get it.  Makes zero sense.  It takes as much effort to get dressed as it does to throw on PJs.  But, as you say, it’s a “thing”.  And, people tend to do the latest “thing”.

 

No one can complain about shorts in the MDR any more if people are traipsing around in PJs.

 

I saw it again the other day while at a casino.  There was a family , not on the casino floor, but on their way to dinner.  I guess times are changing.  

[graphicguy]

2 minutes ago, seemoreroyals said:

 

I saw it again the other day while at a casino.  There was a family , not on the casino floor, but on their way to dinner.  I guess times are changing.  

Hmmm....I would imagine you would severely limit yourself on where you could go if you insisted on wearing PJs.  Probably limited to Mickey Ds, Burger King, KFC or Taco Bell, etc.  But, their choice.

Edited February 27 by graphicguy

[dmwnc1959]

1 hour ago, bkrickles1 said:

First of all, it's OSC, not DSC!

 

You continue to miss the point.

NOBODY here knows precisely where the OSC goes but, obviously, it has a much wider purpose than just additional wages to the people you interact with. So, some people or something is being shortchanged if the OSC is removed.

The people behind the scenes are, at least as important as the people you interact with in making your vacation the best it can be. 

Believe me, I understand that the OSC is a lot of $$.

I'm sailing for 10 days in April and my OSC is $600.

The reason it doesn't bother me is that I don't grind on all the individual costs and fees. I look at the all in cost and determine value compared to other options. For me, all in, NCL gives me and my family the most value for the $$$.

If I were to remove the OSC, I'd be hard pressed to hand out that much in tips to servers, bartenders or cabin stewards, so I would absolutely "save a few bucks". 

So, that would lead many on here to believe that the people that remove their OSC are a little "cheap" and inconsiderate of all the behind the scenes crew that work so hard for us. And, I'm guessing, those same people don't do a lot of tipping throughout their sailing.

I have never and would never remove the OSC and I choose to do some tipping over and above because it makes us happy to do it and there are some perceived perks.

But, I totally understand those that don't do anything extra. It's totally unnecessary and, in theory, your experience should be just as good without the extra expense.

52 Days till Getaway!!

 

From months of recent tipping threads DSC appears to be the most frequently used, even if OSC and DSC are not interchange terms. From what I’ve read the OSC is billed daily, so it may be why Daily Service Charge is the most used?
 

And, with all due respect, what is of value to you and your family may not be of value to everyone else. Or to someone traveling solo. I think that is the point which continues to be missed. Everyone keeps bundling passengers as if we are all the same - with the same needs, the same wants, the same expectations, and the same  everything. 

 

As I had mentioned in another post for my specific case I did do a detailed breakdown of the DSC/OSC, and what CC members suggested adding on top of that as additional tips to bar staff, restaurant staff, and my room steward. That’s when the $500 DSC/OSC turned into $1000 just for tips…for a single person, traveling solo, in an Inside Solo stateroom. 

 

And I too actually do a detailed breakdown of cruises, what the total costs offers and includes, and then decide from there based on what’s important to me. I too look at the all-in costs. And if NCL tells me:

 

1) “Unlike most other ships in the cruise industry, there is no required or recommended tipping on our ships for service that is generally rendered to all Guests”, and that guest should not feel obligated (guilted) into tipping extra, I’ll take them for their word. 

 

2) And if there is a 20% gratuity already added for all beverage purchases, and a 20% gratuity already added to specialty restaurant dining…

 

3) …that 20% doesn’t need to turn into 40%. And that’s my right.

 

I completely understand there are probably hundreds of behind the scenes workers in all of the bars and restaurants, cleaners, and non-contracted staff that work hard for us, especially on a long cruise. And that’s what the OSC/DSC is supposed to cover (?), along with ALL the already added 20% gratuities. If extra tipping makes you and your family happy that’s great. But I shouldn’t be criticized unfairly if I don’t want to, peer-pressure guilted to do so, or held accountable to make up their wages. 

 

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Edited February 27 by dmwnc1959

[bkrickles1]

58 minutes ago, dmwnc1959 said:

From months of recent tipping threads DSC appears to be the most frequently used, even if OSC and DSC are not interchange terms. From what I’ve read the OSC is billed daily, so it may be why Daily Service Charge is the most used?
 

And, with all due respect, what is of value to you and your family may not be of value to everyone else. Or to someone traveling solo. I think that is the point which continues to be missed. Everyone keeps bundling passengers as if we are all the same - with the same needs, the same wants, the same expectations, and the same  everything. 

 

As I had mentioned in another post for my specific case I did do a detailed breakdown of the DSC/OSC, and what CC members suggested adding on top of that as additional tips to bar staff, restaurant staff, and my room steward. That’s when the $500 DSC/OSC turned into $1000 just for tips…for a single person, traveling solo, in an Inside Solo stateroom. 

 

And I too actually do a detailed breakdown of cruises, what the total costs offers and includes, and then decide from there based on what’s important to me. I too look at the all-in costs. And if NCL tells me:

 

1) “Unlike most other ships in the cruise industry, there is no required or recommended tipping on our ships for service that is generally rendered to all Guests”, and that guest should not feel obligated (guilted) into tipping extra, I’ll take them for their word. 

 

2) And if there is a 20% gratuity already added for all beverage purchases, and a 20% gratuity already added to specialty restaurant dining…

 

3) …that 20% doesn’t need to turn into 40%. And that’s my right.

 

I completely understand there are probably hundreds of behind the scenes workers in all of the bars and restaurants, cleaners, and non-contracted staff that work hard for us, especially on a long cruise. And that’s what the OSC/DSC is supposed to cover (?), along with ALL the already added 20% gratuities. If extra tipping makes you and your family happy that’s great. But I shouldn’t be criticized unfairly if I don’t want to, peer-pressure guilted to do so, or held accountable to make up their wages. 

 

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NCL changed it from daily service charge to onboard service charge. It's right on their website where they describe every single possible cost/fee in excruciating detail.

Anyone who feels duped, after the fact, has only themselves to blame for not properly reading all pertinent information.

 

And, with all due respect, I was pretty clear that I wasn't saying that what I value is the same for everyone. What I said:

"For me, all in, NCL gives me and my family the most value for the $$$."

 

And for the life of me I don't understand why you insist on grouping the 20% gratuity for the beverage package and specialty dining with the OSC.

One thing has nothing to do with the other. The beverage pkg and specialty dining are separate and optional, so no need to pay anything there unless you want those perks and then you pay the 20%. Easy peasy!

 

And while you say that you "completely understand there are probably hundreds of behind the scenes workers that work hard for us", from your posts it appears that you don't value them like the vast majority of people that sail with NCL.

 

Lastly, I certainly didn't criticize or apply any "peer-pressure" to you.

Again, I was very clear:

"But, I totally understand those that don't do anything extra. It's totally unnecessary and, in theory, your experience should be just as good without the extra expense."

 

Happy Sailing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[julig22]

3 hours ago, seemoreroyals said:

 

I did see several families on our Prima cruise this past December all dressed in matching pajamas parading around the ship.  I think that is a new thing people are starting to do on cruises.  Got to admit they looked comfortable.

December...could be a family PJ Christmas tradition. Hopefully not a cruise tradition....

[yakcruiser]

3 hours ago, seemoreroyals said:

 

I did see several families on our Prima cruise this past December all dressed in matching pajamas parading around the ship.  I think that is a new thing people are starting to do on cruises.  Got to admit they looked comfortable.

This could get really weird if we start seeing people with pineapples on their PJ's.

[dmwnc1959]

1 hour ago, bkrickles1 said:

And while you say that you "completely understand there are probably hundreds of behind the scenes workers that work hard for us", from your posts it appears that you don't value them like the vast majority of people that sail with NCL.

Kind of you to speak for the ‘vast majority’ and to make assumptions of my values. We all value and respect the behind the scenes workers (especially when we are on the ship), just as much as the passengers that value them and respect them and wants to bring candy bars and fruit cakes instead of cash. And it’s while we are on the ship when it matters, because for the other 11 months of the year these wonderful and amazing people (whom we have never met) really never enter our thoughts. 
 

And I can guarantee you that when people are actually cruising on the ship (‘valueing’ the behind the scenes workers), sitting at a bar ordering drinks having a good time lost in all of the excitement and revelry, and at the dining table making exquisite selections off of the upscale dining menu, they’re not even thinking about all of the faceless people behind the scenes washing dishes and cleaning bathrooms making sure and worrying that they are paid well.

It is possible to value something, to value someone, without always having to put a price tag on it.
 

And the reason I’m lumping drink packages and specialty dining packages in a single statement is because those two are most likely the biggest packages people buy, especially when they comment specifically on how much they tip extra for each drink and how much they tip extra for each meal at specialty restaurants. It’s those 20% already added gratuities turning into 40% that I bring up. People can and do drink and buy specialty dining packages at the same time on the same cruise. 
 

Nonetheless, thank you for understanding that if I do nothing extra, which in reality doing anything extra is totally unnecessary, that my experience should be just as good without the extra expense. And that’s the way it should be. 
 

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Edited February 27 by dmwnc1959

[kirtihk]

32 minutes ago, dmwnc1959 said:

Kind of you to speak for the ‘vast majority’ and to make assumptions of my values. We all value and respect the behind the scenes workers (especially when we are on the ship), just as much as the passengers that value them and respect them and wants to bring candy bars and fruit cakes instead of cash. And it’s while we are on the ship when it matters, because for the other 11 months of the year these wonderful and amazing people (whom we have never met) really never enter our thoughts. 
 

And I can guarantee you that when people are actually cruising on the ship (‘valueing’ the behind the scenes workers), sitting at a bar ordering drinks having a good time lost in all of the excitement and revelry, and at the dining table making exquisite selections off of the upscale dining menu, they’re not even thinking about all of the faceless people behind the scenes washing dishes and cleaning bathrooms making sure and worrying that they are paid well.

It is possible to value something, to value someone, without always having to put a price tag on it.
 

And the reason I’m lumping drink packages and specialty dining packages in a single statement is because those two are most likely the biggest packages people buy, especially when they comment specifically on how much they tip extra for each drink and how much they tip extra for each meal at specialty restaurants. It’s those 20% already added gratuities turning into 40% that I bring up. People can and do drink and buy specialty dining packages at the same time on the same cruise. 
 

Nonetheless, thank you for understanding that if I do nothing extra, which in reality doing anything extra is totally unnecessary, that my experience should be just as good without the extra expense. And that’s the way it should be. 
 

😎

I said it may times: it would only save so much time on pleasurable topics if a tipping concept is completely hidden inside (moves to) the total price (like in most of Europe and a lot of other regions)!  Just reading threads like this one generates a headache.

[kirtihk]

42 minutes ago, dmwnc1959 said:

Kind of you to speak for the ‘vast majority’ and to make assumptions of my values. We all value and respect the behind the scenes workers (especially when we are on the ship), just as much as the passengers that value them and respect them and wants to bring candy bars and fruit cakes instead of cash. And it’s while we are on the ship when it matters, because for the other 11 months of the year these wonderful and amazing people (whom we have never met) really never enter our thoughts. 
 

And I can guarantee you that when people are actually cruising on the ship (‘valueing’ the behind the scenes workers), sitting at a bar ordering drinks having a good time lost in all of the excitement and revelry, and at the dining table making exquisite selections off of the upscale dining menu, they’re not even thinking about all of the faceless people behind the scenes washing dishes and cleaning bathrooms making sure and worrying that they are paid well.

It is possible to value something, to value someone, without always having to put a price tag on it.
 

And the reason I’m lumping drink packages and specialty dining packages in a single statement is because those two are most likely the biggest packages people buy, especially when they comment specifically on how much they tip extra for each drink and how much they tip extra for each meal at specialty restaurants. It’s those 20% already added gratuities turning into 40% that I bring up. People can and do drink and buy specialty dining packages at the same time on the same cruise. 
 

Nonetheless, thank you for understanding that if I do nothing extra, which in reality doing anything extra is totally unnecessary, that my experience should be just as good without the extra expense. And that’s the way it should be. 
 

😎

Funny, we were born (on Cruise Critic) 2 days apart.  And if I read your name correctly, our actual age is also almost the same (a few months apart - I'm 1960).

[bkrickles1]

37 minutes ago, dmwnc1959 said:

Kind of you to speak for the ‘vast majority’ and to make assumptions of my values. We all value and respect the behind the scenes workers (especially when we are on the ship), just as much as the passengers that value them and respect them and wants to bring candy bars and fruit cakes instead of cash. And it’s while we are on the ship when it matters, because for the other 11 months of the year these wonderful and amazing people (whom we have never met) really never enter our thoughts. 
 

And I can guarantee you that when people are actually cruising on the ship (‘valueing’ the behind the scenes workers), sitting at a bar ordering drinks having a good time lost in all of the excitement and revelry, and at the dining table making exquisite selections off of the upscale dining menu, they’re not even thinking about all of the faceless people behind the scenes washing dishes and cleaning bathrooms making sure and worrying that they are paid well.

And the reason I’m lumping drink packages and specialty dining packages in a single statement is because those two are most likely the biggest packages people buy, especially when they comment specifically on how much they tip extra for each drink and how much they tip extra for each meal at specialty restaurants. It’s those 20% already added gratuities turning into 40% that I bring up. People can and do drink and buy specialty dining packages at the same time on the same cruise.  
 

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Hysterical!!

You kind of made my points for me!

 

I certainly didn't question your values. I simply came to the conclusion that you don't value the behind the scenes crew as much as others. And that was based on the aggressive nature of your posts. Maybe you should reread them.

I'm not sure how you would define "vast majority", but I'll take a stab at it myself.

I believe that 95%+ of all passengers do not remove the OSC. I would say that's a vast majority.

Do you agree?

And you're correct. I, and the vast majority, do not think about the faceless people behind the scenes while we're enjoying ourselves onboard. We don't because we pay the OSC and know that we're doing right by them, hopefully leading to them getting paid a fair wage.

 

Lastly, your math is wonky to me.

I don't know how you get this 40% and, anyway, I asked why you group those 20% gratuities with the OSC.

[cruiser2015]

59 minutes ago, dmwnc1959 said:

Kind of you to speak for the ‘vast majority’ and to make assumptions of my values. We all value and respect the behind the scenes workers (especially when we are on the ship), just as much as the passengers that value them and respect them and wants to bring candy bars and fruit cakes instead of cash. And it’s while we are on the ship when it matters, because for the other 11 months of the year these wonderful and amazing people (whom we have never met) really never enter our thoughts. 
 

And I can guarantee you that when people are actually cruising on the ship (‘valueing’ the behind the scenes workers), sitting at a bar ordering drinks having a good time lost in all of the excitement and revelry, and at the dining table making exquisite selections off of the upscale dining menu, they’re not even thinking about all of the faceless people behind the scenes washing dishes and cleaning bathrooms making sure and worrying that they are paid well.

It is possible to value something, to value someone, without always having to put a price tag on it.
 

And the reason I’m lumping drink packages and specialty dining packages in a single statement is because those two are most likely the biggest packages people buy, especially when they comment specifically on how much they tip extra for each drink and how much they tip extra for each meal at specialty restaurants. It’s those 20% already added gratuities turning into 40% that I bring up. People can and do drink and buy specialty dining packages at the same time on the same cruise. 
 

Nonetheless, thank you for understanding that if I do nothing extra, which in reality doing anything extra is totally unnecessary, that my experience should be just as good without the extra expense. And that’s the way it should be. 
 

😎

Why not do yourself a favor and beam yourself up out of these fencing matches.

Your position on this subject is perfectly valid and you should not be having to defend it against other CC members who are unrelenting in tearing apart the views of others if they disagree.

And it's not that the other folks are wrong in what they say, just a different take.

Peace be with you...

[kirtihk]

2 minutes ago, cruiser2015 said:

Why not do yourself a favor and beam yourself up out of these fencing matches.

Your position on this subject is perfectly valid and you should not be having to defend it against other CC members who are unrelenting in tearing apart the views of others if they disagree.

And it's not that the other folks are wrong in what they say, just a different take.

Peace be with you...

It would be with everyone (assuming my post # 112).

[cruiser2015]

2 minutes ago, kirtihk said:

It would be with everyone (assuming my post # 112).

Perhaps so, but as that is not the policy on US owned lines (which makes up a ginormous amount of the industry) and is unlikely to happen any time soon, we have to live with the current fiasco.

There are some luxury level lines where all tipping is all inclusive. But something tells me there are folks doing extras in cash here and there as well.

[kirtihk]

5 minutes ago, cruiser2015 said:

Perhaps so, but as that is not the policy on US owned lines (which makes up a ginormous amount of the industry) and is unlikely to happen any time soon, we have to live with the current fiasco.

There are some luxury level lines where all tipping is all inclusive. But something tells me there are folks doing extras in cash here and there as well.

You are correct.  We will be on one of them in April (Seabourn Pursuit).  However, I didn't see any threads on this topic for Regent, Ponant, Seaborn, SeaDream, Silversea.

[zqvol]

1 hour ago, dmwnc1959 said:

Kind of you to speak for the ‘vast majority’ and to make assumptions of my values. We all value and respect the behind the scenes workers (especially when we are on the ship), just as much as the passengers that value them and respect them and wants to bring candy bars and fruit cakes instead of cash. And it’s while we are on the ship when it matters, because for the other 11 months of the year these wonderful and amazing people (whom we have never met) really never enter our thoughts. 
 

And I can guarantee you that when people are actually cruising on the ship (‘valueing’ the behind the scenes workers), sitting at a bar ordering drinks having a good time lost in all of the excitement and revelry, and at the dining table making exquisite selections off of the upscale dining menu, they’re not even thinking about all of the faceless people behind the scenes washing dishes and cleaning bathrooms making sure and worrying that they are paid well.

It is possible to value something, to value someone, without always having to put a price tag on it.
 

And the reason I’m lumping drink packages and specialty dining packages in a single statement is because those two are most likely the biggest packages people buy, especially when they comment specifically on how much they tip extra for each drink and how much they tip extra for each meal at specialty restaurants. It’s those 20% already added gratuities turning into 40% that I bring up. People can and do drink and buy specialty dining packages at the same time on the same cruise. 
 

Nonetheless, thank you for understanding that if I do nothing extra, which in reality doing anything extra is totally unnecessary, that my experience should be just as good without the extra expense. And that’s the way it should be. 
 

😎

You have more than made your point. It’s time to let it go

[dmwnc1959]

6 minutes ago, bkrickles1 said:

And you're correct. I, and the vast majority, do not think about the faceless people behind the scenes while we're enjoying ourselves onboard. We don't because we pay the OSC and know that we're doing right by them, hopefully leading to them getting paid a fair wage.

 

Lastly, your math is wonky to me.

I don't know how you get this 40% and, anyway, I asked why you group those 20% gratuities with the OSC.

 

1 hour ago, bkrickles1 said:

…it appears that you don't value them like the vast majority of people that sail with NCL.

I’ve already mentioned that I would never remove the OSC/DSC. It’s carved in stone as part of my budget.
 

And by paying the OSC/DSC I therefore apparently don’t ever have to think about the behind-the-scenes workers or worry or tip extra knowing I am doing right by them and that NCL is taking good care of them by making sure that all of my service charge contributions supplement their salary into a fair wage. Yay! That’s good. No need to ever tip extra! 
 

As for the 40% that’s a figure I came up with by combining the 20% already added gratuities to what CC members were saying they generously tipped extra on top of that for specialty dining (based on the total cost of the meal) for every meal. 
 

And the reason I’m grouping those two types of charges and fees together is that they all amount to tips and gratuities, regardless of what fancy terminology NCL applies. 
 

🍺 Cheers 

[dmwnc1959]

35 minutes ago, cruiser2015 said:

Why not do yourself a favor and beam yourself up out of these fencing matches.

Your position on this subject is perfectly valid and you should not be having to defend it against other CC members who are unrelenting in tearing apart the views of others if they disagree.

And it's not that the other folks are wrong in what they say, just a different take.

Peace be with you...

Yup, time to leave this disaster and move on other controversies like jeans in the MDR on formal night. Thanks for all the fish! 
 

🖖

(me, wondering if anyone will get this reference)

Edited February 27 by dmwnc1959

[RocketMan275]

1 hour ago, kirtihk said:

I said it may times: it would only save so much time on pleasurable topics if a tipping concept is completely hidden inside (moves to) the total price (like in most of Europe and a lot of other regions)!  Just reading threads like this one generates a headache.

Folks aren't interested in including the DSC in the total fare as they are in avoiding/eliminating the DSC without any increase in the total fare.

[cheersforbeers]

5 minutes ago, dmwnc1959 said:

Yup, time to leave this disaster and move on other controversies like jeans in the MDR on formal night. Thanks for all the fish! 
 

🖖

(me, wondering if anyone will get this reference)

Loony Tunes. That’s all folks! 

[dmwnc1959]

4 minutes ago, cheersforbeers said:

Loony Tunes. That’s all folks! 

Sort of similar appearance, and similar in its ending salutations, but it’s from ‘The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy’. 

 

😉

 

 

Edited February 27 by dmwnc1959

[zqvol]

9 minutes ago, dmwnc1959 said:

Yup, time to leave this disaster and move on other controversies like jeans in the MDR on formal night. Thanks for all the fish! 
 

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(me, wondering if anyone will get this reference)

You don’t have to worry about jeans in the dining room on formal night, because formal night doesn’t exist on NCL