jdvmd Posted April 9, 2012 #1 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Is the Veendam a popular ship? You don't seem to hear too much about her. I am contemplating a Bermuda cruise in May out of NYC and the prices just seem too good to be true. How would she compare to the Prisendam, Maasdam or Westerdam? Just came off the Westerdam yesterday but the Prinsendam is my favorite. Love the fact that the Veendam is smaller and can dock in Hamilton instead of the Royal Naval Dockyard. Have been to Bermuda before on Celebrity. Alternatively, looking at the Maasdam out of Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted April 9, 2012 #2 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Veendam to Bermuda! We did that cruise the first year it was offered and loved it. Do it this summer, because this is the last year Veendam sails to Bermuda. Docking in Hamilton for four days is much much better than being at the dockyards for fewer days. Veendam is the same size as Maasdam. Unfortunately, she had the refit that replaced the aft pool with "the retreat," which caused some longtime HAL fans to swear off Veendam. But even with that change, she's a fine ship. You only have a day and a half of sea days at either end of the cruise, so I don't think the lack of the aft pool is a problem for this cruise. Next summer, Veendam will do the Canada route, as will Maasdam (we think/hope), so you will still have the opportunity to sail Canada with HAL. May prices to Bermuda do look great. Go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cruisingxpert Posted April 9, 2012 #3 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Veendam is the same as the Maasdam except for the fact that the Veendam removed the aft pool and replaced it with a "what were we thinking" retreat area. Didn't win many friends. I was on it last August and I'm going again next month-I loved it. I was also on the Westerdam last Nov and while it was nice, I really loved the size of the Veendam and the fact that it stops in downtown Hamilton. CJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted April 9, 2012 #4 Share Posted April 9, 2012 We're on the Veendam May 6 and have a wonderful Roll Call going! If you decide to do the cruise we're on, check the Roll Call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catl331 Posted April 9, 2012 #5 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Because one spends so much time in Hamilton, you really won't miss the "old version" of the Veendam. We were on her before the surgery and after the surgery and still would go on her again if the price was right. Can't go wrong with the Bermuda price but it is very easy to empty your wallet in NYC!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PathfinderEss Posted April 9, 2012 #6 Share Posted April 9, 2012 If your going to do the Veendam to Bermuda, you best do it soon, cause it ain't going to happen next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKrystic Posted April 10, 2012 #7 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Is HAL leaving Bermuda in 2013? Or will another ship be taking the Veendams place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted April 10, 2012 #8 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Is HAL leaving Bermuda in 2013? Or will another ship be taking the Veendams place? Hal is giving up the berth in Hamilton entirely. No HAL to Bermuda after this summer. And I think they're giving up on NYC, too. Our first two cruises were HAL, NYC to Bermuda, in the 70s and early 80s. We were disappointed when they left New York, and we sailed to Bermuda (and other places) on other ships. We didn't go back to HAL until HAL came back to the NYC to Bermuda run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKrystic Posted April 10, 2012 #9 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Well boo. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulaS8071 Posted April 10, 2012 #10 Share Posted April 10, 2012 We're booked on the Veendam for Bermuda in July. Glad to hear everyone else is getting good prices earlier on. DH wasn't thrilled with the price we got in July. P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiMar Posted April 10, 2012 #11 Share Posted April 10, 2012 We are booked in July too...July 15. When are you going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare styles27 Posted April 10, 2012 #12 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I'm going on May 6th and we found out today that they over sold our cruise by 7 cabins. So if you're "on the fence" about booking, book early because I have a feeling that she'll sell out all of the Bermuda cruises since it's the last season going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all@c Posted April 11, 2012 #13 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Hal is giving up the berth in Hamilton entirely. No HAL to Bermuda after this summer. And I think they're giving up on NYC, too. Our first two cruises were HAL, NYC to Bermuda, in the 70s and early 80s. We were disappointed when they left New York, and we sailed to Bermuda (and other places) on other ships. We didn't go back to HAL until HAL came back to the NYC to Bermuda run. Do you know why and if another cruise line will call into Hamilton in the same way ie 3days. I do not think My wife will let me spend more money on another cruise this year, we have just returned from the Queen Victoria Panama cruise L.A to NYC which I have to say was brilliant :) Grilles really was something else. Regards all@sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted April 11, 2012 #14 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Do you know why and if another cruise line will call into Hamilton in the same way ie 3days. I do not think My wife will let me spend more money on another cruise this year, we have just returned from the Queen Victoria Panama cruise L.A to NYCwhich I have to say was brilliant :) Grilles really was something else. Regards all@sea I don't think an official reason has been given. The only reason that makes sense is that they didn't make enough money on this cruise. Plus, Canada has been a very popular route for HAL, so they're moving the ship to a route on which they make money. There has been discussion of this in the Bermuda port of call board, and it seems nobody else is taking the Hamilton berth on a regular basis. Not many ships can get in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisenanny Posted April 11, 2012 #15 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Do you know why and if another cruise line will call into Hamilton in the same way ie 3days. I do not think My wife will let me spend more money on another cruise this year, we have just returned from the Queen Victoria Panama cruise L.A to NYCwhich I have to say was brilliant :) Grilles really was something else. Regards all@sea I haven't heard of anyone else taking the Hamilton berth either, we can only hope. We have booked the LAST sailing on Aug 26th. Years ago, all cruises to Bermuda went to St George and/or Hamilton. I have grown tired of being out at the dockyard on our recent Bermuda cruises and this will be a welcome treat, albeit a bittersweet one... As for pricing, the rate for our Verandah suite has already gone up by $200pp since we booked, I am very pleased with what we paid:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted April 11, 2012 #16 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I haven't heard of anyone else taking the Hamilton berth either, we can only hope. We have booked the LAST sailing on Aug 26th. Years ago, all cruises to Bermuda went to St George and/or Hamilton. I have grown tired of being out at the dockyard on our recent Bermuda cruises and this will be a welcome treat, albeit a bittersweet one... As for pricing, the rate for our Verandah suite has already gone up by $200pp since we booked, I am very pleased with what we paid:) My last couple of HAL cruises price went down at the end but this one price seems to have increased, we are going 5/20 and looking forward to being in Hamilton and leaving from NYC again. ( also have the veranda suite booked but hoping for that upsell to full suite which we got our last cruise) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisenanny Posted April 11, 2012 #17 Share Posted April 11, 2012 My last couple of HAL cruises price went down at the end but this one price seems to have increased, we are going 5/20 and looking forward to being in Hamilton and leaving from NYC again. ( also have the veranda suite booked but hoping for that upsell to full suite which we got our last cruise) Oh WOW! I hadn't even considered that as a possibility! I would consider that deal if the price was right.. Now my hopes are up!:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted April 21, 2012 #18 Share Posted April 21, 2012 We are booked in July too...July 15. When are you going? We plan on booking this cruise soon .We love the Veendam . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted April 21, 2012 #19 Share Posted April 21, 2012 If you want to sail to Bermuda, OP, book it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelman Posted April 30, 2012 #20 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Sad that HAL is abandoning Bermuda again.. Not sure how NCL makes it work so well financially, but HAL cannot. Holland America has such a great history with the island. Here is a fun image showing three different Veendams in Bermuda, Veendam (2) in 1931 under charter to Furness Bermuda Line. Veendam (3) in 1978 sailing from Bermuda and Veendam (4) in 2011 arriving into Hamilton Harbour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted April 30, 2012 #21 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Awesome photos! Thanks for posting them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSox5 Posted April 30, 2012 #22 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Just off the Veendam yesterday- spoke with the hotel manager about Veendam no longer going to Bermuda. He says that things may still change :confused: and that he has a meeting with some officials in Bermuda on Wednesday. Sounds weird to me since their itineraries are already out for the next year or so. He also encouraged me to write a letter to corporate saying how disappointed I was that HAL was pulling out of Bermuda... not sure how much good it would do, but I might send one in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted April 30, 2012 #23 Share Posted April 30, 2012 modelman Great pictures -- thank you for sharing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted April 30, 2012 #24 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Just off the Veendam yesterday- spoke with the hotel manager about Veendam no longer going to Bermuda. He says that things may still change :confused: and that he has a meeting with some officials in Bermuda on Wednesday. Sounds weird to me since their itineraries are already out for the next year or so. He also encouraged me to write a letter to corporate saying how disappointed I was that HAL was pulling out of Bermuda... not sure how much good it would do, but I might send one in... HAL has been known to change a ship's itineraries -- we have been caught in that mess a couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PathfinderEss Posted April 30, 2012 #25 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Is the Veendam a popular ship? You don't seem to hear too much about her. I am contemplating a Bermuda cruise in May out of NYC and the prices just seem too good to be true. How would she compare to the Prisendam, Maasdam or Westerdam? Just came off the Westerdam yesterday but the Prinsendam is my favorite. Love the fact that the Veendam is smaller and can dock in Hamilton instead of the Royal Naval Dockyard. Have been to Bermuda before on Celebrity. Alternatively, looking at the Maasdam out of Montreal. The Veendam and Maasdam are the sister ships, they carry 1,200 passengers. The Princendam is Hal's smallest ship, carries 800 passengers and the Westerdam is a different catagory ship then either of the others. She carriers around 1,800 passengers, so she would be the biggest but she is also the newest of this group of ships. Personally if it were me, I would be looking at the Maasdam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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