Family removed from Dream in Jamaica

For the first time in my over 50 cruises I was awoken in my cabin by an announcement in my cabin in the middle of the night. Started at 4:05 am and lasted every 5 minutes until 4:35. They were searching for a 14 year old that had an argument with his Dad & stepmother. They starting making the announcements in the crew cabins at 5:30 and all crew had to get up at 6:00 and help with the search. My room steward knocked on my door with a picture of him about 7:00 as they went to every cabin searching for this 14 year old. They found him about 7:30 hiding in another friends cabin that he met on the cruise. His whole family was put off along with the people in whos cabin he was hiding. Everyone on the ship was awaken by this search so it was probably for the best they put him off...Dennis

For the first time in my over 50 cruises I was awoken in my cabin by an announcement in my cabin in the middle of the night. Started at 4:05 am and lasted every 5 minutes until 4:35. They were searching for a 14 year old that had an argument with his Dad & stepmother. They starting making the announcements in the crew cabins at 5:30 and all crew had to get up at 6:00 and help with the search. My room steward knocked on my door with a picture of him about 7:00 as they went to every cabin searching for this 14 year old. They found him about 7:30 hiding in another friends cabin that he met on the cruise. His whole family was put off along with the people in whos cabin he was hiding. Everyone on the ship was awaken by this search so it was probably for the best they put him off...Dennis

Wow! I hope they have passports. Was this near the beginning or end of the cruise?

Wow. I've never heard of a person getting kicked off in another country. I can't imagine the liability Carnival assumes kicking off Americans (most likely) in a foreign country. I can see confining them to the jail or their rooms but that's extreme IMO.

I imagine there is a lot more to the story than what we know. I spent years in law enforcement and every single time I saw a news article about something I was involved in, it only presented about 15% of the actual story.

That being said, I'm pretty sure very cruise line's boarding agreement says the captain can remove you at his discretion if you become a problem. My guess? There was a lot more going on than a 14 year old hiding.

Wow! I hope they have passports. Was this near the beginning or end of the cruise?

We sailed sunday afternoon, this happened Tuesday night second sea day

Wow. I've never heard of a person getting kicked off in another country. I can't imagine the liability Carnival assumes kicking off Americans (most likely) in a foreign country. I can see confining them to the jail or their rooms but that's extreme IMO.

A couple years ago they removed several people that were involved in a fight in the Disco and then the hallways..put them off in Costa Maya..two groups from New York

I imagine there is a lot more to the story than what we know. I spent years in law enforcement and every single time I saw a news article about something I was involved in, it only presented about 15% of the actual story.

 

That being said, I'm pretty sure very cruise line's boarding agreement says the captain can remove you at his discretion if you become a problem. My guess? There was a lot more going on than a 14 year old hiding.

There could have been , I was on the second leg of a B2B and one of the managers I knew told me this..Dennis

I was on that cruise and I heard alcohol and possibly drugs were involved. That would definitely be grounds for getting kicked off. The announcements were annoying, but we were worried about him! And funny, we heard he was found passed out in an elevator. I bet there were a dozen different stories going around...

I was on a Princess ship in SE Asia last spring and they started making announcements on a sea day for several cabins. Turns out they broke quarantine for noro virus. The captain had warned people for days to follow the rules. When the cabin mates were located they we're put off at the next port. The captain himself made the announcement over the entire ship about what they had done and what he did in response. I was pretty darn impressed with captain, they took the outbreak very seriously.

Yes, must be a lot to all of this to get kicked off the ship.

Keith

Wow. I've never heard of a person getting kicked off in another country. I can't imagine the liability Carnival assumes kicking off Americans (most likely) in a foreign country. I can see confining them to the jail or their rooms but that's extreme IMO.

It is in your cruise contract. All cruise lines can do this at the captains discretion. If this was my child i would probably be arrested in jamacia for giving him an old school beating lol.

Wow. I've never heard of a person getting kicked off in another country. I can't imagine the liability Carnival assumes kicking off Americans (most likely) in a foreign country. I can see confining them to the jail or their rooms but that's extreme IMO.

Liability= zero. The Captain's authority may not be as absolute as it used to be but it's still pretty strong.

I imagine there is a lot more to the story than what we know. I spent years in law enforcement and every single time I saw a news article about something I was involved in, it only presented about 15% of the actual story.

 

That being said, I'm pretty sure very cruise line's boarding agreement says the captain can remove you at his discretion if you become a problem. My guess? There was a lot more going on than a 14 year old hiding.

Yep, paragraph 5(b) sez:

"Carnival and the Master each reserves the right to refuse passage, disembark or confine to a stateroom any Guest whose physical or mental condition, or behavior would be considered in the sole opinion of the Captain and/or the ship's physician to constitute a risk to the Guest's own well-being or that of any other Guest or crew member."

I was on that cruise and I heard alcohol and possibly drugs were involved. That would definitely be grounds for getting kicked off. The announcements were annoying, but we were worried about him! And funny, we heard he was found passed out in an elevator. I bet there were a dozen different stories going around...

Different stories or not. This kid and family and the other cabins pax do appear that they were a definite problem. Good they put them off.

For anyone thinking that this punishment may have been harsh...think about it for a moment:

They woke myself, my wife and all the other 4000 passengers on the ship up at 0400. Then, the whole crew, whether they had worked all night and not slept or whatever, had to be woken up at 0600. Then they banged on everyone's doors looking for this little brat. It got to the point where the cruise director was practically pleading with him to present himself and everyone was very very concerned that something bad had happened to him. Now, with passengers and crew, there were more than 5000 people whose lives were affected by this in a negative way. Of course, its not that big of a deal, mind you, but it did make for a very long day in port for many. The whole ordeal lasted almost 4 hours for everyone.

All of that being said, he didn't deserve to remain on the ship at all, especially since he and his friends were simply ignoring the pleas of a lot of worried people.

My wife spoke with the Captain and First Officer in Cozumel and they verified that he was hiding from them the whole time and that he and his family were removed from the ship. They also said that he was NOT found passed out on drugs in an elevator.

This is what is referred to as "Poetic justice."

Good day!

Wow. I've never heard of a person getting kicked off in another country. I can't imagine the liability Carnival assumes kicking off Americans (most likely) in a foreign country. I can see confining them to the jail or their rooms but that's extreme IMO.

Witnessed a family being put off the Paradise. The teenage girl was caught smoking ...the family was warned...the second time they were put off the

ship. At least it was in P.R. But those were the rules as I recall you had to sign

the smoking policy.

For anyone thinking that this punishment may have been harsh...think about it for a moment:

 

They woke myself, my wife and all the other 4000 passengers on the ship up at 0400. Then, the whole crew, whether they had worked all night and not slept or whatever, had to be woken up at 0600. Then they banged on everyone's doors looking for this little brat. It got to the point where the cruise director was practically pleading with him to present himself and everyone was very very concerned that something bad had happened to him. Now, with passengers and crew, there were more than 5000 people whose lives were affected by this in a negative way. Of course, its not that big of a deal, mind you, but it did make for a very long day in port for many. The whole ordeal lasted almost 4 hours for everyone.

 

All of that being said, he didn't deserve to remain on the ship at all, especially since he and his friends were simply ignoring the pleas of a lot of worried people.

 

My wife spoke with the Captain and First Officer in Cozumel and they verified that he was hiding from them the whole time and that he and his family were removed from the ship. They also said that he was NOT found passed out on drugs in an elevator.

 

This is what is referred to as "Poetic justice."

 

Good day!

I don't believe it was harsh at all. When I was stationed on an aircraft carrier we had a man overboard- guy's supervisor finds his safety gear on the flight deck but can't find him. They search the department spaces quickly and call man overboard. Entire battle group turns around to go back and look for him, the crew musters and sure enough he's the missing person. Crew musters again (involves visually seeing all 6200 people onboard) and he is the missing one. Ship wide search is conducted and they find the guy taking a nap in a motor whale boat on the hangar deck. He went from there to the bridge for an instant Article 15 and was sentenced to 3 days confinement on bread and water. I'm sure if our Captain had the option he would have put the fellow ashore, too.

Wow. I've never heard of a person getting kicked off in another country. I can't imagine the liability Carnival assumes kicking off Americans (most likely) in a foreign country. I can see confining them to the jail or their rooms but that's extreme IMO.

Happens all the time...they are not kidding around. My friends young adult son got put off the ship in Jamaica for throwing one of the life preservers overboard. And the fine for that is $500 too. They kept him confined to his room until they got to a port.

A couple years ago they removed several people that were involved in a fight in the Disco and then the hallways..put them off in Costa Maya..two groups from New York

yea it was the dream when first started sailing out of PC

was on her and witnessed the melee

many were gone , and the ship was better for it ..

If drugs or violence were involved then I agree with it. I'd kill my child but I just can't see them getting kicked off for hiding.

There was a guy on the Magic who was smoking with a Nasal cannula and had an Oxygen tank in his wheelchair next to the casino bar. I told security and the purser's desk how dangerous it but he was seen smoking the entire trip. I've had people smoking marijuana in a cabin next to us and security came but nothing happened.

Interesting that everyone here so far assumes that the teen had no good reason for running away to hide.

We don't know why he did that do we?

I agree that the captain has the right to throw people off the ship when he deems it appropriate.

Too bad that everyone was disturbed by this incident!

Luckily it is not something that happens often!

I imagine there is a lot more to the story than what we know. I spent years in law enforcement and every single time I saw a news article about something I was involved in, it only presented about 15% of the actual story.

I agree. Off topic, but I also feel that news reporting has gotten so much worse over the years. I think that for the most part fact checking is a thing of the past, never mind getting the whole story, or even getting the part of the story you are reporting correct.

Sad times for the fifth estate.

Kevin C

I agree. Off topic, but I also feel that news reporting has gotten so much worse over the years. I think that for the most part fact checking is a thing of the past, never mind getting the whole story, or even getting the part of the story you are reporting correct.

 

Sad times for the fifth estate.

 

Kevin C

I agree - it's whatever sounds most scandalous and/or sheds the worst light on anyone/anything. Trash the cruise lines, trash celebrities, trash politicians....just trash.

Carnival can remove any passenger from the cruise if they break the rules that are in the cruise contract. It also means the passengers have to pay their own way back to the states.

It also usually means that the person or persons being removed from the ship are banned from sailing on any Carnival ship in the future.

It would be a hard pill to swallow if on a family cruise that one of my nieces or nephews did something for all of us to get kicked off of the ship.

At least now they have a vacation story to tell.

People really are put off the ship in foreign ports from time to time.

There was a flasher on a Celebrity cruise who would hide in the ladies room and exposed himself. When he was finally caught, he was locked in his cabin with a guard outside his door. In Grand Cayman he was escorted off the ship.

Another time on a RCCL cruise, two men were taken off the ship in handcuffs in Jamaica ... seems they were being charged for some crime they committed there.

On a Carnival ship several men were put off the ship in Cozumel for getting drunk and urinating on people on the deck below.

It happens on all cruise lines.

LuLu