psygist Posted September 21, 2007 #1 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Any comments or preferences on which airline is better for flights from the US to London? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseluv Posted September 21, 2007 #2 Share Posted September 21, 2007 I have never flown British Air, but I keep reading horrible things about it, from very strict luggage restrictions to routine lost lugagge. We just flew Virgin Air from London to Newark. Very comfortable plane (it looked fairly new) and good service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberge Posted September 21, 2007 #3 Share Posted September 21, 2007 Any comments or preferences on which airline is better for flights from the US to London? Thanks. Daughter flies to London a lot..usually buys whatever ticket cost less,but likes Virgin better than BA.When I fly to London I would do Virgin over BA anyday and I upgrade ticket to Economy Plus and it is worth every penny IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llandaff Posted September 22, 2007 #4 Share Posted September 22, 2007 If the cost is in any way comparable I would definitely fly Virgin. BA is much more...well....British, and not in a good way! (I can say that....I'm a Brit myself!) I just wish Virgin would fly direct from PHX. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobal Posted September 22, 2007 #5 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Definitely Virgin - better service, much better entertainment and a real chance that you'll get your luggage at the other end ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted September 22, 2007 #6 Share Posted September 22, 2007 There's actually not much between them. Both are quality outfits, but both also suffer from having their main hubs at Heathrow. Virgin's cabin crew tend to be younger and less experienced. Morale there has suffered quite a bit over the last couple of years. BA cabin crew morale is pretty good at the moment, despite the hiccup earlier in the year. But BA is - as others have noted - deliberately more formal in its approach; if you want party girls serving you, then you're more likely to find them on Virgin. Onboard cabin service is pretty comparable on the two airlines. Both airlines are now fitting audio-video on demand, but I don't know which airline will complete this first. (BA's project will be complete by May 2008.) Nevertheless, even on the aircraft that have not yet been refitted, there is individual seatback TV for everyone. Don't be taken in by the urban legends about lost baggage and such like. It was bad for BA over the summer, but that made the headlines only because they were upfront and honest about it to their trade association. Virgin (and bmi) concealed their figures by the simple expedient of refusing to report them, and it is unlikely that they were doing any better than BA. Current reports here and elsewhere are that BA baggage handling is now fine, but it sounds like bmi is still struggling, and Virgin still has a prominent "delayed baggage information" page on the front of its website. Baggage allowances are stricter on Virgin than they are on BA - at least at the moment. Across the Atlantic in economy, BA passengers can currently still bring 2 bags at 32 kg each (although you have to read the website small print to find this out). Virgin's allowance is 2 bags at 23 kg each, according to its website; I don't know how generous they are with small excesses. Cabin baggage restrictions are likewise stricter on Virgin than on BA. Virgin allows economy passengers one bag, max 6 kg, max size 56 x 36 x 23 cm. BA allows one bag, max size 56 x 45 x 25 cm, no weight restriction other than you must personally be able to lift it into the overhead locker. In either case, the airline will allow a "personal item" in addition. (But some airports - particularly UK airports - will not allow the extra personal item through the security checkpoint. This is airport, not an airline, restriction.) Virgin's punctuality has been rather worse than BA's recently. But it's not particularly good for either airline, because so many of their flights start or finish at Heathrow. However, the bottom line is that these are picky points. Either is fine, and either is streets ahead of any of the US carriers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otogocruisin Posted September 22, 2007 #7 Share Posted September 22, 2007 We have used both and definately prefer Virgin Atlantic.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sddsddean Posted September 23, 2007 #8 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Have used both in the past and would use both again. Just depends on the price and 'time' convenience. If you want to see what others think, look them up on this site under 'airline reviews'. http://www.airlinequality.com/index.htm Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted September 23, 2007 #9 Share Posted September 23, 2007 Both airlines are now fitting audio-video on demand ...For what it's worth, I've found the page that lists which entertainment system is fitted to which aircraft. Between that, and the page that gives details of which aircraft has been recorded as operating which routes on which dates, you may be able to get an idea of your chances of getting the audio-video on demand equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uktraveller Posted September 24, 2007 #10 Share Posted September 24, 2007 We have flown many transatlantics, having lived in Seattle for three years plus many vacations and business trips to the states (mostly using British Airways). We have always been satisfied with the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted September 24, 2007 #11 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Any comments or preferences on which airline is better for flights from the US to London? Thanks. Not sure why you are limiting choice to only two airlines, and why not a US carrier; we always use US airlines where possible but that's because British airlines have only limited services from regional airports. Whichever one you choose just try to avoid Heathrow which is the pits and where most lost baggage occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted September 24, 2007 #12 Share Posted September 24, 2007 ... why not a US carrier ...Maybe psygist thinks the same way as me: I'd rather walk! And I don't think that there is much trans-Atlantic service direct to London by other non-US airlines at the moment. bmi has a handful of routes, but not to London. And it's otherwise charters, which are fraught with problems. psygist did say that London was the destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted September 24, 2007 #13 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Maybe psygist thinks the same way as me: I'd rather walk! And I don't think that there is much trans-Atlantic service direct to London by other non-US airlines at the moment. bmi has a handful of routes, but not to London. And it's otherwise charters, which are fraught with problems. psygist did say that London was the destination. We have used both Continental & US Airways from Manchester in the last 6 months and could not fault them, except that they charge for Alcohol which at least keeps the drunkards down. Maybe it's the Heathrow malaise that affects the US cabin crews, but fortunately it's not the only London airport and, as we are only a small Island, most regional airports could be used by US tourists followed by a quick train trip into the very centre of London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouse mouse Posted September 24, 2007 #14 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Have flown British Airways, Virgin Atlantic and American Airlines to and from USA. Much prefer BA due to competent and friendly cabin staff. Food much better on BA as well. I must be lucky too, as BA has never lost a piece of my or my families luggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted September 24, 2007 #15 Share Posted September 24, 2007 FWIW, Business Traveller magazine has recently provided the latest of this year's travel awards. Although it's UK-based and is therefore likely to have a bias towards travel that involves the UK, that would make it relevant to the OP's question. The result seems to be that it's much of a muchness as between BA and VS. Business Traveller Awards 2007 Carriers Best Airline 1 British Airways 2 Virgin Atlantic 3 Qatar Airways 4 Singapore Airlines 5 Swiss Best Long Haul Airline 1 Singapore Airlines 2 British Airways 3 Qatar Airways 4 Virgin Atlantic Best Frequent Flyer Programme 1 British Airways Executive Club 2 Lufthansa Miles & More 3 Air France/KLM Flying Blue 4 bmi Diamond Club Best First Class 1 Singapore Airlines 2 British Airways 3 Cathay Pacific 4 Emirates Best Business Class 1 Virgin Atlantic 2 British Airways 3 Air New Zealand/Singapore Airlines 4 Cathay Pacific Best Premium Economy Class 1 Virgin Atlantic 2 British Airways 3 Air New Zealand 4 SAS Best Economy Class 1 British Airways 2 Singapore Airlines 3 Virgin Atlantic 4 Emirates Best North American Airline 1 American Airlines 2 United Airlines 3 Continental Airlines 4 Delta Best Cabin Staff 1 Singapore Airlines 2 Virgin Atlantic 3 Cathay Pacific 4 British Airways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psygist Posted September 24, 2007 Author #16 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Thanks for all the responses. I have narrowed it down to BA or VA mainly due to flight schedules. I want a nonstop flight, with the return leaving in the afternoon due to returning from a cruise, and only these two airlines can meet my criteria. I have flown BA twice before and haven't really had any problems. I have heard some good things about Virgin and thought I'd consider them this time as the schedules and airfare are about the same. Interestingly, while Heathrow or BA never lost my luggage on previous trips, luggage handlers did manage to damage a piece of luggage (small rip) and they gave me a replacement piece, no questions asked, that was much better quality than the piece they ripped. And Globaliser is correct... these days with US airlines.... I'd rather walk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskoka2 Posted September 24, 2007 #17 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Any comments or preferences on which airline is better for flights from the US to London? Thanks. not go into Heathrow is the best......only part of my tongue is in my cheek.....I hate Heathrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted September 24, 2007 #18 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I would definately take Virgin Air over British Air any day, if you only have the two to choose from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stbk1998 Posted September 24, 2007 #19 Share Posted September 24, 2007 Any comments or preferences on which airline is better for flights from the US to London? Thanks. My favorite is Virgin Atlantic. They are the bestest! However, I usually fly with British Airways (LAX-LHR) as they are cheaper. I know that alot of people don't like BA, but I've never had problems with them. I would fly with BA over the American airlines (American, United, Delta) because, well, US airlines suck. The flight attendants are rude and the food is atrocious. In my experience the big European carriers (Virgin, British Air, Air France, Lufthansa, and KLM) have better customer service onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keltic Posted September 25, 2007 #20 Share Posted September 25, 2007 I would go BA. No doubt. I use both to fly the US. The Worlds Favourite Airline :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog Posted September 26, 2007 #21 Share Posted September 26, 2007 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/02/nfly102.xml Here is an article to provide you with some information. My luggage did not make the connection and was left at Heathrow. However, I was very pleased to have it delivered to my Copenhagen hotel quite late the same night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sailinglisa Posted September 26, 2007 #22 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I am flying Chicago to London on VS40 on 10/26. Can anyone tell me what is in the in-flight ammenity pack they give you? Also, is it true that drinks are free? Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindlychap Posted September 26, 2007 #23 Share Posted September 26, 2007 I am flying Chicago to London on VS40 on 10/26. Can anyone tell me what is in the in-flight ammenity pack they give you? Also, is it true that drinks are free? Thanks in advance! In Upper Class you get a pack with flight socks, eye mask and various other bits and pieces. Last time I flew they were out of the Upper Class ones, so I was given a premium economy one - and can't recall much difference, other than colours. No idea about economy. Never done a transatlantic economy. Drinks are free in Upper Class. Suggest you take a peek at their website. Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globaliser Posted September 26, 2007 #24 Share Posted September 26, 2007 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/02/nfly102.xml Here is an article to provide you with some information. This story gained very wide publicity during the summer. But to put this article in perspective, the reason that BA's figures are known is because they were reported to the Association of European Airlines, of which BA is a member. Virgin (and bmi) are also members of the association, but simply refused to provide their figures to the AEA. It is unlikely that this was because their lost baggage performance is substantially better than BA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocngypz Posted October 8, 2007 #25 Share Posted October 8, 2007 I prefer VS over BA from my gateway. VS arrives at T3.. BA at T4. At T3 it is easier to navigate to connections into London. Also do check the type of equipment each flight is offering. Many change equipment depending upon the time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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