Cruising legal question

Okay so my close friend knows I'm going on my 1st cruuse next week and he asked me this question. I didn't know the answer but I promised to look into it.

Basically, it's like this. My friend is on Parole in Arkansas and he wants to go on a cruise. He doesn't think his officer will allow it, so he's considering going without telling his officer. His question is would he be allowed to board? He doesn't have any warrants oor anything. He's just on parole for about a year.

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If he's not allowed to leave the state or the country then in essence he's committing an illegal act. If he gets busted then that's a problem. Is it a special occassion? Like a wedding or something? Why doesn't he seek written permission. I've seen it done. Cousin got married and was on probation. He had to get permission to travel out of the country from his probation officer. He got it. But that wasn't probation - not parole. Perhaps that will make a difference.

I'm no expert, but I believe he answered his own question. If he has to skirt around telling his PO, then he already knows he's wrong.

Would really stink to get busted and then end up back in the pokey for a parole violation. In my opinion, the best advice you can give him is to stay home.

I would suggest to him that he wait the year until his parole is up. Seems like he'd be in more trouble otherwise. Why risk it? A cruise will still be there in a year.

Edit: In retrospect, I didn't really answer your question, which was, "Will your friend be allowed to board the ship on parole?"

Answer: To know for sure, I would consult an attorney or his parole officer, but from what I have read here on cc, he'd probably be allowed to board, but might have an issue upon debarkation returning into the country. Not worth the risk IMHO.

What's up with all the jail, warrant, and probabtion questions lately? We're about to take our first cruise, and I'm kind of regretting not booking Royal Carribean all of a sudden...

What's up with all the jail, warrant, and probabtion questions lately? We're about to take our first cruise, and I'm kind of regretting not booking Royal Carribean all of a sudden...

Criminals cruise those lines too :)

What's up with all the jail, warrant, and probabtion questions lately? We're about to take our first cruise, and I'm kind of regretting not booking Royal Carribean all of a sudden...

Believe me it happens on royal also. I have seen it a few times when they have been leading people away in handcuffs.

It's easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission... unless he's on parole.

Sounds like someone who gets a high out of criminal risk taking. If you'll bring your video camera and promise to record the frisking and cuffing as he boards the ship, I guarantee you'll receive thousands and thousands of hits on YouTube.

It's easier to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission... unless he's on parole.

 

Sounds like someone who gets a high out of criminal risk taking. If you'll bring your video camera and promise to record the frisking and cuffing as he boards the ship, I guarantee you'll receive thousands and thousands of hits on YouTube.

Actually, it'd probably when he gets back to port... CBP's computers will "see" his name on the manifest, find it on the cross-link to other criminal databases, and CBP will check with his PO. They'll be waiting when the ship gets back to meet him on-board, and won't clear the ship to debark until they have him.

Sounds like someone who gets a high out of criminal risk taking. If you'll bring your video camera and promise to record the frisking and cuffing as he boards the ship, I guarantee you'll receive thousands and thousands of hits on YouTube.

And then a bunch of people will post here saying, "HELP! I'm scared to go on Carnival because everyone's always getting arrested at the port!!!!"

*sigh* Good old Wal*Mart of the Seas :rolleyes:

Wouldn't leaving the country jack up the offense more than a state border crossing?

I worked in corrections in Florida. I bet, he will have no problem getting on the boat or off since he has no active warrants, just parole, but his parole officer will be notified and the consequences would far outweigh the fun of a cruise.

Maybe I worry too much, but I would have no fun on a cruise wondering if I had jail time in my future for a parole violation.

Why doesn't he just ask permission? I know parole is different than probation but a friend of mine was on probation and asked his probation officer for permission to go to Las Vegas and it was granted ~ he had to show his airline tickets, what hotel he'd be staying in and a phone number he could be reached at, etc. I guess it depends on his relationship with his parole officer and the nature of his crime if his PO would allow him to go but there would be a very good chance that he would be arrested at the port and get a parole violation which could send him back to prison/jail. He'd probably be able to take the trip but as others have said, someone would be waiting for him at the port and escort him off the ship in handcuffs...not a chance worth taking IMO but that's just me.

He'll be fine as long as he don't have any warrants or anything. I doubt the parole officer would grant it he would have to go to far up the chain of command and it becomes his neck on the line if something happens, so I bet he will deny it. I say just go don't tell him.

pay for the parole officer to go on the cruise with him, maybe that would work

Bustin the law aint no good.

He knows the rules, he should either get permission or not go. That's the price you pay for breaking the law.

Doug

He knows the rules, he should either get permission or not go. That's the price you pay for breaking the law.

 

Doug

Exactly. Won't he go to jail if he gets caught violating the terms of his parole? That would be stupid.

What's up with all the jail, warrant, and probabtion questions lately? We're about to take our first cruise, and I'm kind of regretting not booking Royal Carribean all of a sudden...

Criminals are everywhere. Whether you book Royal, Disney, Princess...etc... There is likely someone or several people who have gotten in trouble with the law in the past.

To the OP, your friend already knows what the right thing to do is. If he feels its ok to break the law in order to cruise, well...just wow.

Bustin the law aint no good.

Thanks for the laugh

Answer: To know for sure, I would consult an attorney or his parole officer...

Oh yeah, I can see that: "Mr. Parole Officer, if I go on a cruise without asking your permission would I get caught or am I good to go?"

What's up with all the jail, warrant, and probabtion questions lately? We're about to take our first cruise, and I'm kind of regretting not booking Royal Carribean all of a sudden...

I have seen this on Celebrity once, there were 3 people arrested and we saw this once on Princess, so it happens all the time, on all lines, even on Disney!

He knows the rules, he should either get permission or not go. That's the price you pay for breaking the law.

 

Doug

If he had read the rule book to start, he would not be on parole...

There sure have been a lot of legal questions, as another poster mentioned, on the boards lately.

It's simple: He needs to ask permission, or hasn't he learned anything from his past offenses? You break the law, you pay the price. Why is this so hard to understand. If his parole officer finds him out of the country without permission, he might end up back in jail, or worse!!!! It's a simple question, he just needs to ask. If he asks in the right way, he may get to go, who knows. :cool:

Okay so my close friend knows I'm going on my 1st cruuse next week and he asked me this question. I didn't know the answer but I promised to look into it.

 

Basically, it's like this. My friend is on Parole in Arkansas and he wants to go on a cruise. He doesn't think his officer will allow it, so he's considering going without telling his officer. His question is would he be allowed to board? He doesn't have any warrants oor anything. He's just on parole for about a year.

 

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With this type of attitude it doesn't really matter what the rules are because he can't follow them anyway. Tell him not to book Early Saver because chances are he'll be back in jail before it's time to cruise and I'd hate to see him lose his money that he'll be needing for a lawyer. :mad: