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Clothing on the Summit---Live Report

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Well, to everyone who's wondering about the dress codes on board the Summit, I have to say there doesn't seem to be any, not in the dining room or in any of the public rooms. On our first formal night, I saw a lot, and I mean a lot, of passengers in jeans, shorts, t-shirts and flip flops. They were not in the dining room, but they were in every other public area of the ship. On informal night, many, many men were just wearing plain t-shirts and golf shirts and jeans. I guess the casuals are fighting hard to make Celebrity forget their dress codes altogether (no flaming---but I would say that easily 30% weren't in code for formal or informal nights) and X isn't enforcing their own "rules". The only place where the dress code has meaning is in the Normandie where they did turn away an older couple who showed up in cargo pants and polo shirts.

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X doesn't enforce their rules. They dont do it with dress code, smoking, chair hogs etc. That is just the way it is, the sooner everyone accepts it the better it will be. Hopefully you will be able to enjoy your vacation even if people you don't know aren't dressed to your liking.

 

Sorry to be short I am just so tired of this topic.

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Dress code aside, how is the ship? Does it appear "fresher" after drydock?

 

I wasn't on the ship before drydock. Nothing looked new anyway.

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On our first formal night, I saw a lot, and I mean a lot, of passengers in jeans, shorts, t-shirts and flip flops. They were not in the dining room, but they were in every other public area of the ship. On informal night, many, many men were just wearing plain t-shirts and golf shirts and jeans. I guess the casuals are fighting hard to make Celebrity forget their dress codes altogether (no flaming---but I would say that easily 30% weren't in code for formal or informal nights) and X isn't enforcing their own "rules". The only place where the dress code has meaning is in the Normandie where they did turn away an older couple who showed up in cargo pants and polo shirts.[/QUOTe]

 

Maybe I'm missing something but I was never under the impression that Formal attire was required on a formal night unless you were going into the dining room!! Having just come off the Summit my wife and I would sometimes change into more casual clothing after dinner... guess that breaks the rules.

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X doesn't enforce their rules. .

 

I think it's expected that the guidelines would be followed without the need for enforcement. We would presume that everyone is adult enough to understand this, and comply, but, there are those who, for whatever reason clearly understable to them choose to do whatever they want, or, they are simply uninformed.

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Having just come off the Summit my wife and I would sometimes change into more casual clothing after dinner... guess that breaks the rules.

 

Yes, it does.

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Maybe I'm missing something but I was never under the impression that Formal attire was required on a formal night unless you were going into the dining room!! Having just come off the Summit my wife and I would sometimes change into more casual clothing after dinner... guess that breaks the rules.

 

Hi Rick !

 

Sorry to say, but it does break the rules. It does say repeatedly on the daily program, that you are kindly asked to stay in the dress of the evening. Over the past few years, I have seen many people get dressed up for dinner... then change after dinner, into something MUCH more casual, and, in many cases, outfits (like jeans, shorts, tank tops) that people should know better.

 

It is VERY hard for the cruiselines to do much about this. On one hand, I guess they are afraid of alienating customers, who are spending lots of money with them.... and on the other hand, it is just not fair to those who dress up, and want to make the evening a special one.

 

I know that I always stay in the dress of the evening, but what's good for me, may not work for others.

 

With that said, I know many get bent out of shape when they see people out of the dress code. I definately do not. I work much too hard each day, and I am on Cruise vacation....... so it's all good !. I am not going to let someone else's manners (or being uninformed) get to me. If it does not directly affect me, I will just have a little laugh, and move on.

 

I wish I had a better answer. Just trying to add to the comments here.

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Although dress codes are easily enforced for dining venues (simply don't allow entry) I'm not sure how a cruiseline, resort or hotel can enforce a code in other public areas short of physically restraining someone (which, of course, they are not going to do). Some cruiselines (e.g., Crystal) rely on peer pressure but even that breaks down on certain cruises, such as Alaska.

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on Connie & Infinity at the doors to the dining room turning away anyone not dressed for the evening. The Celebrity Today states that you get one chance to show up for your meal dressed accordingly & that is the only time you will be told what to wear. We saw the officers (4 of them) near elevators & entrances to the dining room & showroom.

 

Buffet, movie, and casino is wear what you want................ no one there.

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Given that there is alternative, casual dining on most nights, how does one make use of it if the dress code is enforced outside the main dining room? Scurry from cabin to casual dining venue and back, whilst doing one's best to hide from the eyes of the fashion police?

 

Leaving aside the advisablility of having the casual dining option in the first place, do you really suppose that those who use it are breaking rules by using other public areas of the ship?

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All of this sounds like school-vacation-time cruising to me. Seems like we get these reports evrytime there is a school break.

 

ROSS

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do you really suppose that those who use it are breaking rules by using other public areas of the ship?

 

The plain and simple fact of the matter is that,. yes, they are not following the guidelines. Whether or not they are following the suggested dress is not really debateable is it? they either are, or they are not following it. How much 'harm' does it do, or what the impact is, yes that can be debated, but if someone goes back and changes to their casuals on a formal night, then wanders about the ship, you can't debate that they are not following the guideline. It is what it is.

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There are no "rules" as to dress code in public areas merely suggestions or requests. Certainly one is not going to the pool or the spa in their Sunday best. What would be the point of having alternative casual dining if you had a rule that you must be in the dress of the evening in public areas of the ship?

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I have to agree with Flagger and Andy. I may choose to dress up but what others are wearing doesn't phase me. Other things on a ship bother me much more than the fashion police. I figure they are on vacation and if they choose alternative dining, so what? I'd much rather they had 'germ police'. I saw, not once but every day, some people picking up the tea sandwiches with their hands, opening them, looking inside and putting them back. I'll take the people in jeans over them anyday.

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I get miffed when anyone tells me how to spend my vacation and if I want to lounge in my cabin all day reading a book or watching tv that is my decision. However, my idea of a vacation is not noting what other people are wearing much less paying to log on to a computer to report on what people are wearing.

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There are so many different cruise lines, it seems to me that if the dress standards on one aren't what a person likes, then they can try another line that is more to their liking. If the passengers on Celebrity are no longer dressy enough, there's got to be another more traditional line somewhere, right? And if they're too dressy, then there are more freestyle-oriented lines out there. Seems that everyone can find a place to their liking rather than arguing about it all the time?

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flagger: I agree with you..... I don't go on vacation to have someone "dictate" to me what I should wear.I do agree that you should dress appropriate in the dining room,but if I want to go back to my cabin and change into more comfortable clothing.....I don't want anyone critizing me,after all.....it's my vacation! And by no means am I a slob........but sometimes I just feel like taking off the high heels after dinner and being more comfortable for the rest of the evening!

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I have to agree also. There have been many times my H and I have dressed for formal night, went to the show and then gone back and changed into something more comfortable. What if someone wants to go excercise in the gym or go for a walk up on deck? People who pay good money for their vacation should be allowed to enjoy themselves even if they don't wnat to stay "formal" ALL evening and people who wish to dress up and STAY dressed up ALL evening should enjoy theirselves too and not worry so much about what everyone else is doing!! Just my 2 cents.

Stef

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Having just returned from Summit I have to comment. We didn't see that many people who didn't stick to the dress codes. Yes, after late seating dinner many went to the shows and then changed but during dinner it was obvious to many of us that the dress code was adhered to. In fact, I saw the "dining room police" standing at the door to the Cosmopolitan and turned away 3 young girls who were not neatly dressed and then we saw them come scurrying back dressed nicely.

 

As Andy and others have said, it doesn't affect my cruise one way or the other but in the dailys they did ask you to stay dressed for the evening or remain close to deck 10 (casual dining) for a more informal night.

 

Summit could use a little "face lift" from what we saw but she's still the best so far of all the Celebrity ships we've sailed. The crew was outstanding and we all felt right at home from the time we boarded until we had to say goodbye 10 days later.

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flagger: I agree with you..... I don't go on vacation to have someone "dictate" to me what I should wear.I do agree that you should dress appropriate in the dining room,but if I want to go back to my cabin and change into more comfortable clothing.....I don't want anyone critizing me,after all.....it's my vacation! And by no means am I a slob........but sometimes I just feel like taking off the high heels after dinner and being more comfortable for the rest of the evening!

 

 

Actually, it isn't your vacation. And you are interpreting the guide to suit your convenience. You chose the vacation and Celebrity is a more formal line than some others. You didn't have to choose Celebrity, you could have chosen a line that doesn't have as many dress nights. Formal nights mean formal nights shipboard. Not just in the dining room and they mean the entire night. It says this in the dailies and in Celebrity's brochures.

 

When you go on vacation on a cruise ship you are sharing the ship with others. It is a shared vacation and you are served by people who are serving your fellow passengers onboard. The reason some pick a brand is in hope that they are sailing with people who share the stated lifestyle of the product, not with rebels interesting in crashing the party.

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Actually, it isn't your vacation. And you are interpreting the guide to suit your convenience. You chose the vacation and Celebrity is a more formal line than some others. You didn't have to choose Celebrity, you could have chosen a line that doesn't have as many dress nights. Formal nights mean formal nights shipboard. Not just in the dining room and they mean the entire night. It says this in the dailies and in Celebrity's brochures.

 

When you go on vacation on a cruise ship you are sharing the ship with others. It is a shared vacation and you are served by people who are serving your fellow passengers onboard. The reason some pick a brand is in hope that they are sailing with people who share the stated lifestyle of the product, not with rebels interesting in crashing the party.

 

Despite our differences of opinion on the potential value of change to Celebrity, I agree one-hundred percent with Benjamins' well-phrased and succinct summary of this situation. Kudos! :cool:

 

Allen

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Agree with several posters above. First, when we use to sail at school holiday times with the kids, I did see a more relaxed dress code on board. Also, we always do follow the suggested dress for the evening, but I do agree with the posters who mentioned casual dining. If someone opts for the casual dining venue, then I would assume their dress would be casual, and I would not expect these people to return to their cabins and change when they went to another part of the ship. I have also seen people at the dinner hour make their way to the gym in gym clothing when the spa facility is open late. Are these people not allowed to go and work out at a certain hour due to dress code? A vacation is just that, a place to relax and do your own thing. I think what most cruiselines are pushing is for its passengers to relax and enjoy the cruise in the fashion that they wish, therefore more and more lines are opting for a more casual dress code. I also think that is why we are seeing more and more alternative dining options onboard. I do think however, if you opt for the main dining room or the upscale alternative restaurant that you should follow the recommended code of dress. Just my opinion.

Barbara

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It doesn't bother me what others wear for the evening, but I do bother to dress in accordance with the requested dress code, just in case I do bother someone else. If I did bother someone with what I wore, that would bother me. Common courtesy. That's just my thoughts.

 

Phil

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